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    Hi Melanie!

    If I had a choice, I would not do two correction days in a row *unless* I had a gain after a correction day. And since I know holding a loss after a correction day works (the Post-Correction Day Strategy, PCDS for short) I feel confident in recommending you do the PCDS. Now, don't get these things mixed up; a Chicken Thigh Day (a 'CTD') is a correction day (a 'CD'), and the Post-Correction Day Strategy can be used after ANY correction day to hold the loss, and allow the body to relax/break out of a starvation mode cycle (where a series of gains happen).

    The PCDS is what I've been posting about in my blog. Remember: the Chicken Thigh Day is the correction day, and the Post-Correction Day Strategy (the 'PCDS') is what happens AFTER that.

    Read up on what to eat there. Read the "Reader's Digest Version" entry of the first two days of the PCDS to get a feel for how the first two days (heads up: no carbs, no processed foods, no salt, no grains, no veggies...all poultry, all meat, and fish. And avoid pork too, due to sodium and whatnot).

    I'm still addding to the list of foods to eat. But for now, if it isn't on the list, DO NOT assume you can eat it. This is ONLY for 2 days; don't try to go beyond what I've listed. Don't get creative. You did it with the foods Simeons laid out in P2, right? For 40 injections, which is about 7 weeks, right? Surely you can do this restricted food list for TWO DAYS! I have faith in you, Mel! And, same goes for other folks; what I've listed is very do-able.

    Go to my blog, and read thru the food there listed on the "Reader's Digest" post for the first 2 days of the PCDS. And before eating anything not mentioned there, assume if it isn't specified there, it isn't allowed. Then...PM me to confirm. Always err on the side of caution.

    Quote Originally Posted by melaniet View Post
    I did a steak day today (Thurs) i didnt have any thighs. Im going to do a chicken thigh day tomorrow? (Fri) Thats ok right? what should i eat the next couple of days (sat and sun) What ever I lose i dont want to gain back ! thanks for your help
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

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    Hi Pensee!!

    FYI: the calculator you use for the first few days of the PCDS is the one specified in the first part of the guide/post on PCDS. Chapter 1 I believe. Or, you could just find the "Reader's Digest" post I made, also on my blog. The MyNetDiary calculator uses the American Cancer Society calculator. And that is the second calculator of two calculators we use in the PCDS. Also: the second calculator uses a different setting...but don't worry about that until later. Check out the "Reader's Digest Version" post and you'll be all good!
    Oh. O.k. so I guess I got confused when I went back in the blog after finishing it.
    Ll check it out on mo. Hope I don't need to, but ll c. Thanx

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    Wow, gonnaloseit you are very informative! I started reading this thread before lunch time. I am doing a steak day today since I need it. I went out and bought steaks during lunch and also bought chicken thighs. I am doing the steak day tonight (I'm already starving!!). I saw that you suggested to Melanie to not do the CTD right away. When do you suggest to do it?

    Thanks for the help!

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    Hi simplyj! Thanks for the compliment, that's very nice of you to say!

    I believe doing a Chicken Thigh Day, because it's a correction day, should only be done if you wake up after a correction day has happened, and you've gained weight, or not lost anything at all. Basically, if your correction day -- whatever the kind of correction day you did -- failed. In that case, then, I'd say two correction days in a row are needed. Though the Chicken Thigh Day (CTD) is less stressful on the body, in my opinion, because you can eat all day long. And you eat enough calories to keep you out of starvation mode, while getting a lower amount of calories that will help you lose, and getting enough protein and fat to keep you going. I wish I could take credit for inventing the idea; I just found a way to use it effectively.

    So, if you're at LIW/LDW, and you want to keep it, go to my blog and read about the Post-Correction Day Strategy (PCDS) to hold a correction day's loss (Steak Day, Chicken Thigh Day, etc. -- doesn't matter what kind of CD it is you did). First two days are no-carb days (eat all one-ingredient meats/poultry/fish, but NOT pork; nothing processed, et cetera), then you slooowwwlllyyy work in carbs after that. It's a temporary vacation for carbs, as they'll be back after the first two days. There's two calculators used; first one is for the days when you're slowwwlly re-introducing carbs, second one is for when your body tells you it's back at its LIW/stabilized. When that happens, you can start increasing carbs and calories. There's a schedule of carb level, which you follow until your body tells you it is ready to increase carbs and calories. Whatever amount of carbs you're at at that point, you'll double that, and whatever the difference is in carb amounts between where you are and the double amount of where you are....you'll increase your carbs eaten by 20% of that carb difference each day, until you arrive at your doubled carb amount. In other words: say I was up to 8% carbs when my body told me it was time to increase carbs. I double that number, and that means 16% carbs is where I'll be at in 5 days. There's 8% difference between the level you were at, and where you needed to be; divvied up that's 1.6% of carbs a day. It's a weird amount, and above 1.5, so I would round that up to 2% carb increase each day. As for calories: I'll use me as an example. The difference between my calorie limit when I was slowly re-introducing calories and my ideal calorie limit is about 515 calories. That works out to 103 calories to increase each day, as 515 divided by 5 is 103. So each day, I'm increasing by 20% for both carbs and calories. It's a lot of math, but you know what helps? My TRACKER! I could NOT have done this without it!!! I use http://www.mynetdiary.com <--I use the iPhone version. It's invaluable.

    I write a lot, probably because I think a lot, and research a lot, and have a LOT of info rattling around in my brain. I've tried to make this as simple as possible, but I understand if it's overwhelming for some folks. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. Or, as most of my info on this PCDS and the CTD is on my blog, I welcome you to read through it. Just click the number of blog entries in my avatar, and you'll get there. The Post-Correction Day Strategy (PCDS) is listed as a "guide" with chapters and so forth. For a "reader's digest" version of it, I also started a thread about the first two days of the PCDS. Feel free to take a look there and see what's laid out. It's a lot of info, but it's the only way I've ever stabilized. Last round, I tried a few things, and they didn't work -- Steak Days in particular! But this time, I did more research, read more threads, and looked at more studies on http://www.pubmed.gov ...and googled the HECK out of terms people used to describe correction days, how to do them, what worked and what didn't...and their failure/success on holding a correction day's loss.

    Again, if any of this is a lot more info than you expected to hear, PM me with more specific questions. But read thru my blog first; it will likely have the answer to any of your questions in there. And....congrats on your weightloss! I just saw your BEAUTIFUL tracker....wow! Nice butterfly too!

    Quote Originally Posted by simplyj View Post
    Wow, gonnaloseit you are very informative! I started reading this thread before lunch time. I am doing a steak day today since I need it. I went out and bought steaks during lunch and also bought chicken thighs. I am doing the steak day tonight (I'm already starving!!). I saw that you suggested to Melanie to not do the CTD right away. When do you suggest to do it?

    Thanks for the help!
    Last edited by GonnaLoseIt; September 14th, 2012 at 03:59 PM.
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    It's all good! And if you have any questions, PM me -- it'll get to me quicker than a blog comment will.

    FYI: you can use the PCDS, even if it's not the immediate day after a gain, and also you could use it if you're gaining and gaining and it doesn't seem like you'll see your LIW/LDW ever again. This approach calms the body down, and gets it out of that yo-yo dieting mode (starvation mode); when you gain after losing, that's a sign you're in starvation mode, imho. And that signal by your body is what you should be aware of; if it's telling you it's stuck in that mode, kick it out of that mode, then! Give it a reason to calm down.

    Have a great weekend, Pensee!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pensee View Post
    Oh. O.k. so I guess I got confused when I went back in the blog after finishing it.
    Ll check it out on mo. Hope I don't need to, but ll c. Thanx

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    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Hi I had some fatty steak and dark meat chicken water and tea. Did I do Ok no carbs, hope the scale is good to me in the morning.

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    Hi Melanie!!

    That sounds super. Don't know how many cals you ate, but the kind of food sounds good!!

    Keep us posted!

    Quote Originally Posted by melaniet View Post
    Hi I had some fatty steak and dark meat chicken water and tea. Did I do Ok no carbs, hope the scale is good to me in the morning.
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    the best i can figure is around 1500 calories 75 g protein and 77g fat.
    EDIT I think the protien was more like 140g
    Last edited by melaniet; September 14th, 2012 at 05:18 PM.

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    Mel, those numbers sound realllllyyy low. And, 'cause you don't know...we can't rely on them.

    Instead, just list everything you ate. And the weights of each after cooking.

    If you're not weighing your food after cooking, and not using a tracker, sweetie, you'll never get an accurate read.

    For now, if your estimates are representative of what you ate...well, unfortunately....protein is higher than fat. And when your fat is not higher than your protein, there's a good chance you'll gain. Remember....always eat more fat than protein, and always eat more protein than carbs (when you eventually re-introduce them)... I've gained when I went overboard with protein.

    I did make a blog entry about this, and I'll shorthand it here as best I can: whatever your LIW is, you eat your equivalent to 120% of your LIW in actual cooked grams of protein (not the calories from cooked grams of protein, but the grams of cooked protein themselves) ...AT THE MOST. You can reduce this amount -- to 100% of your LIW in cooked protein grams -- but you should NEVER go over 120%. And by grams of protein I mean the grams of cooked protein WITHIN each protein source; if I have 300 grams of beef, that doesn't mean I have 300 grams of protein -- inside that 300 grams of that beef, I may have 200 grams of protein and 100 grams of fat...you do NOT KNOW what is inside a piece of meat UNLESS you have a tracker. Nobody can "guesstimate" the fat and protein content of anything by weighing alone.

    So...to anyone reading this: USE A TRACKER.

    Mel, whatever it was that you ate, just list it here. I'll plug it into my tracker and we will see where you are.

    Always drink about a gallon of water spread out over the day, and about 4-6 cups of caffeine too. In ten hours after you last put anything into your mouth, your body will then give you an accurate read on the scale.
    Last edited by GonnaLoseIt; September 14th, 2012 at 06:56 PM.
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Well my steak day totally failed! I was at 132lbs before steak day and I woke up to 131.8 this morning.... only a .2 loss I have a 12 hour work day today so it would be impossible to do a CTD. This morning I had eggs fro breakfast and brought chicken with cucumbers for lunch.

    Thanks for all the helpful information gonnaloseit!

    Very frustrated at this point... I am at exactly 2lbs over my weight.... I have no clue what the next step is... another steak day? *sigh* so frustrating!

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