Thread: P3 Questions

I'm on R2P3D2 and am simply NOT hungry. I had to force myself to eat 2 eggs with sugar free sausage for breakfast, 1 mug cake and 1 ground burger patty. It's almost 6 p.m. and I cannot even think of food. wish I was this "not hungry" in P2! Strange! I promise to eat vegies and fruits tomorrow. My favorite P2 salad was romaine lettuce with my meat of choice on top with small chunks of apple and topped with my special ACV dressing (just ACV with stevia) and sea salt. YES - tomorrow I will have that.

dubbles- you can eat all veggies, and you can mix them. the controversy comes over which ones to limit. most people consider potatoes a "starch", so we avoid those. but the veggies that are on the fence are corn, peas, carrots, winter squashes- the higher carb veggies. most people advise avoiding those in P3 as well.

personally, i think that we wouldn't have to if we didn't eat as much fat in P3 as most people do. but if you are going to eat a lot of fat, then you definitely should hold off on the high-carb veggies and high-sugar fruits. no fruits are off-limits for P3, but most people limit or avoid bananas, pineapple, grapes, mangos and melons. here's what Dr. S. says: "During this period patients must realize that the so-called carbohydrates, that is sugar, rice, bread, potatoes, pastries etc, are by far the most dangerous. If no carbohydrates whatsoever are eaten, fats can be indulged in somewhat more liberally and even small quantities of alcohol, such as a glass of wine with meals, does no harm, but as soon as fats and starch are combined things are very liable to get out of hand."

regarding: If no carbohydrates whatsoever are eaten, fats can be indulged in somewhat more liberally, there are 2 interpretations for that. since Dr. has been talking about P2 immediately prior to this, i take "somewhat more liberally" to be in reference to P2, where we ate almost no fat. that would mean that we need to still be quite cautious of fats in P3. Colleen believes it means "more liberally" than you normally would be able to eat fat, which would allow for more.

either way, you can make it work. if you eat more fat, you have to be more cautious with higher carb veggies and fruits- more like an atkins' type of approach. if you're still quite cautious with your fats, you can get away with a greater variety of fruits and veggies.

btw, some people avoid fruit completely during the first wk of P3. i did this the last time, and it helped me. but i do eat a lot of fat- not because i think it's necessarily a good thing to do, but just because i love cheese, nuts, butter, etc.

some people also follow the atkins' induction phase list, which allows 20 carbs per day. those folks seem to also do well. Dr. S. did not limit fruit- but again, fruit is still a carb- and combining carbs with fat is the biggest problem.

i personally try to avoid having a lot of carbs and fat together in the same meal. so if i'm going to have a steak along with a salad with dressing, then i don't eat fruit with that meal. if i'm going to have fruit, i do it during a meal where i'm having a leaner protein and not as much overall fat.

Low Glycemic Index foods
Eat More of These Foods to maintain healthy glucose levels!

Celery, lettuce 0
Green vegetables, eggplant, onions, garlic, cauliflower, sprouts, radishes, etc. 0-25
Eggs 10
Peanuts/nuts 10
Most meats/fish (unprocessed) 12
Venison 12
Yogurt (plain, unsweetened) 14
Soybeans 18
Fructose (fruit sugar) 20
Greens (beet, collard, etc.) 20
Green beans (Hidatsa) 20
Cherries 22
Plums 25
Grapefruit 25
Lentils (red) 25
Barley (pearled) 25
Milk (regular) 27
Kidney beans 27
Apricots, dried 30
Beans-dried (black, kidney, butter) 30
Lentils (green) 30
Corn (Mandan) 30-35
Milk (skim) 32
Split peas 32
Strawberries, raspberries, black berries (fresh) 32
Flax seeds 32
Chickpeas 33
Pears 36
Tomatoes 38
Pinto or navy beans 39
Yogurt (fruit-sweetened-no sugar) 38
Apples 30-38
Peaches 30-40
Peanut butter (no sugar added) 40
Blueberries (fresh) 40
Apple juice 41
Oats (steel cut) 42
Black eyed peas 42
Kidney beans (canned) 42
Chickpeas (canned) 42
Grapes 43
Soy milk 43
Banana (under ripe) 43
Oranges 40-44
Red wine 44
All Bran cereal 44
Whole wheat pasta 45
Bulgar 47
Wild rice 48-55
Yams 48
Pumpernickel bread 49
Grapefruit juice 49
Squash (most varieties) 50-55
Rye bread (whole grain) 50
Oatmeal (old fashioned) 50
Kiwi 52
Buckwheat (Kasha) 54
Sweet potatoes 54
Pasta (protein enriched) 55
Oat bran cereal 55
Sweet corn 55-60
Mango 56
Potatoes (new, boiled w/ skin) 57
Pita bread 58
Beets 59

Msongdance,

That is a really good theory and has been working well for me so far. I have been limiting fruit with fats and am still at my set weight 5 days in.

I asked a question earlier and can't find if there was an answer. Are Pumpkin and sunflower seeds ok on p3?

pumpkin is one of those iffy ones- some eat it, others don't. i'd use caution. sunflower seeds are ok.

Thanks Zami and KBJ for the information-Very helpful to me......I am not normally a confused person but So much information and my brain is overloaded.....