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    general question

    If I order through Alldaychemist and don't need a prescription will I get in any legal trouble? I'm confused since you state it must clear customs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    IM injections- This is the original method that Dr. S. used. If you inject to the heart of the muscle where there is good blood supply, the Hcg is delivered to your system more quickly than it is with SubQ injections. However, it can be difficult to figure out the right size needle for your weight. For the deltoid, 1" generally works well. 1" or 1.25" is usually what is used for the thigh, depending on your size. For the upper buttock (only inject in the upper outer quadrant), you'll need at least a 1.5" needle- Dr. S. used a 2". If you're quite heavy you'll need to adjust the length since you don't want to get just to the edge of the muscle- you want to get to the middle of it. IM injections are more painful than SubQ injections, and can leave you sore for a while after the injection. However there is a specialty needle that is 1.25" and 27 gauge that works pretty well. You have the convenience of only having to dose one time/day. To get pharmacy-grade Hcg you either need to have a prescription from your doctor, get your shots from a clinic, or order your Hcg from a different country.

    SubQ injections- These are done into fat, generally in the thigh or abdomen. Make sure you avoid the area around your belly button- stay about 2" away in all directions. SubQ injections are done with an insulin needle, generally somewhere between 5/16th and 1/2 long. 28 to 31 gauge can be used, but I prefer the 29. The 30 and 31 gauge are so thin that they bend easily, and the 29 are already basically painless. You can use a .5cc or 1cc size syringe, but I prefer the 1cc so that you have more flexibility in choosing a shot volume. You have the convenience of only having to dose one time/day. This method also uses pharmacy-grade Hcg.

    SL (sub-lingual, meaning under your tongue)- This involves mixing up the same kind of Hcg that is used for injections, but taking a larger dose twice a day, 12 hrs apart. You put the fluid under your tongue and have to hold it there for at least 5'. Many suggest you then don't eat or drink for another 15'. This is a good method for people who don't want to do the shots, but you do have to remember to take those doses roughly 12 hrs apart. The standard dose has been 166 iu's, 2x/day. However the newer research shows there may be benefit in taking a higher dose, 250 iu's 2x.day. With this method you have extra cost for the Hcg, but you don't have to buy sterile vials or syringes. This method also uses pharmacy-grade Hcg.

    Releana- This is SL Hcg that is pre-mixed for you and can only be acquired through a physican who works with that company. The company has a patent on it because they add a particular buffer to the solution. The physician does some blood work prior to putting you on the program, as well as follow-up.

    Hhcg (Homeopathic)- Homeopathic Hcg works on an entirely different principle than pharmacy-grade Hcg does. It is energetic medicine, and works on the principle that the water "remembers" the substance that has been diluted in it. By definition, these drops contain only tiny traces of hcg. Some people prefer this method because they think it's more natural and you are not putting a hormone in your body. A big advantage is that Hhcg is generally less expensive than Hcg, and you can buy it in the US without a prescription. This also allows you to get your product more quickly. However, there are many disadvantages. 1) The FDA has cracked down on Hhcg and many products now are nothing but amino acids. 2) As there are no regulations for homeopathic remedies, you have no idea what is actually in the drops. Someone could put tap water in there and sell it to you. 3) Your body has to be able to produce Hcg (or the effects of it) from the drops, which not something everyone can do. If you do decide you want to use Hhcg make sure the drops have Hcg in them in the ingredient list. It will generally say Hcg 3x 6x 12x, or something similar to this.

    Hcg Pellets, Lozenges, Nose Spray, Throat Spray, Transdermal Patch- These are new methods that are just starting to be used. They all have the convenience of not having to do injections. The number of doses per day can vary. The disadvantage is you have to be able to absorb it properly (some might not be able to), and it can be very hard to adjust your dose.


    No matter what method you are on, the protocol remains the same. Some clinics modify the food list, but I recommend sticking to the original protocol as much as possible.

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    Has anyone ever used Proficient-5000 IU (HCG). I ordered it from Cheap Supplies and it came from Hong Kong.IS it safe? Also, it came with a 2ml vial of sodium chloride. It also says for IM use only. Help!

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    Question Do you do SubQ or IM? (For those injection. Particularly Corion)

    Hey guys,

    Question for those of you using (or those of you who have used) corion. I heard that some types of hcg are for subq and some are for IM…which is corion? I purchased a kit for subQ, but would have no problem doing IM - but only if necessary. Are there people in this forum who have had success with corion used SQ?

    Who does SQ and who does IM? Have those of you who tried both noticed a difference?

    I've had a lot of help over the last few days, but while waiting for the hcg to get here - thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyn Weiser View Post
    If I order through Alldaychemist and don't need a prescription will I get in any legal trouble? I'm confused since you state it must clear customs.

    Thank you.
    Anything crossing the border has to clear customs, no matter what is being shipped. Some people will have you believe that as long as you order a 3month or less supply that it is LEGAL. It's Illegal to purchase prescription drugs from overseas or anywhere for that matter without a prescription. The FDA clearly states that while it is ILLEGAL, it's at their discretion if they prosecute/fine anyone purchasing less than 3 months supply from overseas online. So while they pretty much are saying, it's their choice if they decide if it's worth their effort to do it, but they do not in anyway shape or form say it is LEGAL- they still make perfectly clear that is ILLEGAL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenya View Post
    Has anyone ever used Proficient-5000 IU (HCG). I ordered it from Cheap Supplies and it came from Hong Kong.IS it safe? Also, it came with a 2ml vial of sodium chloride. It also says for IM use only. Help!
    Depends on what the regulations and practices are in Hong Kong. I honestly have no idea. Cheap Supplies is just an escrow service- meaning they buy the stuff wholesale from the online pharmacies overseas. It really depends on the quality control standards (if there ever are any) of the other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    we find that people don't tend to do well switching from injections to hhcg in the middle of a round. i'd stick to the injections and switch to hhcg the next round if you want to. or if you have enough hcg, you could switch to doing the hcg orally (but you need to use much more of it).
    I am about to go the opposite direction. I have been using what is apparently an hHCG (6x, 12x, 30x, 60x) when I was told it was 'the real thing'. Well now I understand it has the real thing in it, but I really wanted the real-real thing. I ordered from one of the prescription hCG providers listed here. I am nervous as I'm going to be doing SQ injections.

    Do you know anyone who has gone from hhCG sublingual to hCG SQ? Is there anything special I need to do? I'm only on my first 21 days at the point at which I'll switch. I've lost 30 pounds to date (which doesn't surprise me because I have a LOT to lose).

    Also, you mention dosing with the sq method - but from what I've heard you inject 1cc daily and I didn't hear anything about changes to that. Do I just wait for my product in case it has instructions, or... ?

    I love the diet, though I did have some strong hunger for the first 2 weeks. I suspect a lot of that is what I call "boredom hunger"; on a scale of 1-10 (1=nausea, 5="I could eat...", 10=famished) I was mostly 5. I wonder if that will change with the sq? Sometimes I have to make myself eat now... I don't mind that.

    Anyway, I'm rambling now - any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyn Weiser View Post
    If I order through Alldaychemist and don't need a prescription will I get in any legal trouble? I'm confused since you state it must clear customs.

    Thank you.
    You can. The FDA states on the website- that ordering prescription medicine from Online/overseas pharmacies is ILLEGAL. Many people on here will tell you it's legal if you are ordering less than a 3 month personal supply. This is FALSE information. While it still is ILLEGAL- the FDA points out if someone orders less than a 3 months supply it is up to their DISCRETION if they confiscate/prosecute/fine you. It doesn't say they won't- it just says they may or may not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    if you want to buy pharmacy grade hcg locally, you do. most of us buy it from india- www.alldaychemist.com. There are a couple of resellers in the US but not many, because it's actually not legal for them to be selling it.... but you can get a kit with everything you need. try doyle- he's a great guy and a friend of many on here. www.gphcg.com.

    the other option is to use the homeopathic version, hhcg. you can get that in the US. use the search bar and put in "hhcg"- there are threads on recommended brands.
    Hi I tried the link gphcg and it is not working. is it correct?

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    I am trying to decide between IM and SQ injections.
    My worry is that Dr. S only did IM injections deep into the muscle...I wonder if that is what we SHOULD be doing?
    I won't mind SQ shots at all, but I wonder about IM?

    Have any of you done BOTH? Can you tell me how vast the difference is?
    And..was there a big differnce in weight loss and hunger issues between the two?

    Is there any reason NOT to try IM first, and if it just does not go well, switch to SQ?

    There is so much fat on my thighs that I worry I would need at least a 1.5" needle...more likely a 2" and what if I miss etc.

    What about the upper arm? A shorter needle would work, but there won't be as much area to choose a spot, right?

    Does it *burn* as the liquid goes into the muscle? I always hate that LOL Or does it just hurt from the needle puncture? Hope that made sense!

    Thank you!
    Sherri
    So confused LOL

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    I believe that is an older post. Those sites are no longer in operation. Things have changed.

    You may want to check out ReliableRx.com and then Escrowrefills.com...but don't do the Escrow site without asking for a *code*, you will not be able to get in without it It is on this site somewhere, but sorry, I don't remember where!
    Sherri

    Quote Originally Posted by laguniac View Post
    Hi I tried the link gphcg and it is not working. is it correct?

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