Ok, I'm on vlcd12 and it's my skip day, so I have some time to heal, but for the last four subq injections of hcg (not my b-12) I've had massive swelling and then bruising. By the next day it covers an area the size of my fist (so about a 3 1/2 in. circumference) and it takes days to fulling go away. I've talked about this before and I -warm up my needles -injected at an angle -wait for the alcohol to dry _inject very slowly but not tooo slowly (about 10-12+ seconds on a .3 shot) - I am using a 29 gauge insulin syringe -I've applied pressure after and massaged
I didn't have any issues the first week, so why am I starting now? Could it be a reaction to the hcg? On wednesday I gave myself three injections 1 hcg and 2-b12 (long story but B-12 was in two syringes) and only the hcg bruised. The hcg was in my tummy and the b-12 was on my side. The next day I switched sides (no b12 that day) and it swelled up too. The first bruise site has finally healed but as it stands right now, 3 out of 4 corners of my abdomen are a different color or are sore. I have not tried my thigh yet,but I'm thinking the same thing is going to happen if I switch there, it will just make it uncomfortable to sit. Could I be Iron deficient? Why is the bruising so large? I've nicked capillaries before and it didn't swell to this magnitude.And why didn't I get a reaction to the b12? If this keeps up I may have to cut my round short. I'm open for multiple opinions at this point. Thanks
I use the front of my thigh and alternate each day. I am a nurse and I suggest you use a large muscle. Thigh or your butt which is hard to do without a pal. I inject in the front and center of my thigh. I use .2 for .200, and never warmed anything...try your thigh if this continues you may want to consult a doctor. You should not bleed from these shots.
susie- i don't think i've ever told anyone to do this, but i think you should stop your shots. this is a HIGHLY abnormal response to the hcg. if you are having that much swelling and bruising it will not help to do the injections in your thigh. besides, you're not aiming for a muscle with those needles- the purpose is to stay in the subq space, which is the tissue below the skin, but before you get to the muscle.
my first instinct was to wonder if you have some sort of clotting disorder (like a hemophiliac)- but if that were the case you would have the swelling and bruising with the b-12 shots as well as the hcg. so i don't think you can conclude anything other than you are having some kind of very weird and rare allergy to the hcg. it's not uncommon for it to take you a while to reaction to a substance- i've been struggling with severe skin reactions to several meds i've tried, and each time i've taken the pills for about 10 days before the reactions started to occur.
i don't think i'd recommend the sub-lingual pharmacy-grade hcg either, since you might be having a systemic reaction that you're not yet aware of- and if you're reacting to the shots, you're going to react (in some way) to the hcg done with another method. if you really want to continue, my suggestion would be that you do an interruption (even though you're not officially supposed to do one until after day 23) while you order some hhcg and wait for it to arrive. most people are able to get theirs within a few days. so do your last 3 vlcd's (without the shots), and then eat like you're in P3 until the hhcg arrives. officially you can start up with the hhcg and the vlcd on the same day, but since you're switching methods i'd eat normally for the first day or 2 that you take the hhcg, before you resume the vlcd.
one other remote possibility- did you re-mix before you started having the reaction? if you did, then it's possible that you have a bad batch of hcg- something with an impurity in it that you're reacting to. but if you're on your original mixture, than that would not be the case.
another possibility even more remote is that you're allergic to something used in the processing of the hcg, that might be used by one manufacturer of hcg but not with a different brand. but i think that's unlikely, plus it would involve buying more hcg that you might not be able to use. since homeopathics work on an entirely different principle, and the amount of actual hcg in hhcg is extremely small, i think there is a good chance you could take hhcg and not react to it.
Thanks, I didn't pre-mix and this is my original mix. I wish I had figured this out two weeks ago.My first round was hhcg and I just sent a half used bottle down to my sister..who lives 6 hours away. (face palm) What if I tried doing IM needles? If it is just a skin reaction would that help? Or would that just make it worse? I might try my shot tomorrow and maybe see if I can try my butt. My husband doesn't want me to spend any more money and would like me to try.He claims there's less blood vessels there.lol(if it hurts I'm making HIM rub it!) Either that or I could try seeing if I could get to the muscle in my thigh? What if I tried mixing again? I have one more vial of 5000iu Ovidac. I originally bought a 40 day kit. Could this one maybe have gotten contaminated and it might have taken 10 days to go bad?
I agree with mgsondance. I'm a nurse and you should not be having that type reaction. Yes, sometimes an allergy takes a few days or times of use, to present. The hhcg is the one to try.. especially if you are saying you didn't have that problem with it. Sorry to hear of your reaction and know you must really be disappointed, but remember, Safety and health first. I use hhcg drops, but until you know you are 'OK' with the product and the 'route', I would not try the sublinqual..it could be life threatening if your throat/airway became swollen. Good Luck!
I'm not a nurse but i"ve had tons of allergic reactions in my life. If you're not having trouble breathing or feeling numbness in your tongue, then I don't think it's a dangerous sort of allergy. I wonder if it's the bac water. The preservative in it. You did hhcg without a problem and it stimulates your own hcg. If it were me, I'd remix with saline solution and try sublingual and see how I did. Colleen
Thanks everyone soo much! I think I'll try to get the hhcg, but the timing couldn't be any worse. I'm leaving in a few days to drive from Idaho to Pennsylvania. If I ordered it from the guy I got it from last time I don't know if it would make it to me on time. :( Plus I was soo close to nailing down my dose. I think I might try a few more shots mixed with the saline. Can I get that at Walgreens/CVS?RiteAid? I haven't had any numbness anywhere or anything like Anaphylactic . When I mixed this first time I did have some "issues" where I had to put the bac water back into the container and then back into the vial...maybe it got contaminated then? On the other hand, I only have ten days left...that would only be 9 more shots. (unless the saline works then I would continue) Either way, like I said before, my hubby wants me to try it in a different location first before I change anything. I might also try my B12 again and see if I react....so this is what a guinea pig feels like.
~ Susie, Last Wednesday, hubby returned from the local pharmacy (I was hunting for saline online) He asked for sterile saline They asked what he was using it for He said "For sublingual vitamin prep" and he came home with a 100 ml bottle of sterile saline for irrigation It cost him $6 - No script (It says script only) We live on Long Island, NY He had prematurely gray hair in his 20's I wonder if that had anything to do with it?
For hhcg If you can stop in Perrysville, Ohio (sw of Cleveland) on your way to PA (that's one long haul) that's the location of a health store where I used to buy my hhcg for $21 a 2 ounce bottle https://www.healthyourselfsite.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=47&osCsid=55c51074b00e3e484a48bf423f773f4a Here's their contact info https://www.healthyourselfsite.com/contactus.html so you can call (if you want to) and make sure they'll be open and have the bottle(s) you want BEFORE you make any detour there. ***My only problem was that it ***lost potency after day 14 (HUNGER + stall)*** so I'd recommend a new bottle every 2 weeks.
Not trying to be a butinski here, just offering options I see.
Thanks Donna :) If we decide to make a detour it might be to my sisters, who I gave my half used 4 oz bottle to. Come to think of it, the guy I ordered from is closer to me (by 10 miles) than my sister.But, I'm really hoping it is as easy as the saline. I'm still considering doing a planned interruption but once again I have to think of my family...they were hoping this would be my last round for a long time. I tend to be a bit more irritable while on protocol. And doing a planned interruption would just make this round longer. On the other hand my Hubby told me that the more weight I can get off would make me healthier and he wants me to be as healthy as I can...ie. "I'll suffer if it make you healthier." But then he also turns around and say that he doesn't want me spending any more money...(eye roll) Anyway, like I said, I'll try the saline tomorrow and then if that doesn't work I'll order some hhcg. And in the mean time maybe do a planned interuption. It should get to PA around the same time I will.
Oh!!! I just had a thought! Grammy,Vegas, or Marggie, what if I gave myself a shot of just Bac water? I'd try it in a fresh location and see if I reacted. Would that work?