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    • hCGDietAuthorMiara
    • TimeJun 18th 2010
     # 1permalink
    (Apologies for the re-post)

    Warning: Rant to ensue...

    For those who are doing great on this adventure, I don't want to discourage. I'm struggling, so please don't read if this will get you down. I know so many women come to this site for encouragement and, newcomer that I am, I REALLY don't want to upset their momentum. I just... need a rant. Even if no one answers, it'll make me feel better.


    So here goes.

    First of all, I'm a vegetarian, have been for 6 years. I'm also hypoglycemic (blood sugar too low = moody, dizzy, sick, then unconscious). I'm doing this sublingual, with 166 IU doses. I'm on Round 1, VLCD3.

    On loading day 1, I accidentally had 166 IUs twice (instead of splitting the doses and having 166 for the day). Felt fine, fairly disinterested in food but I pushed myself. Loading day 2, I had 166 for one dose, then figured out my mistake halfway through the day and corrected for a half-dose at night. VLCD1, I had 166 IUs for the whole day, ate 382 calories and felt fine. Moderate energy, mild euphoria, etc. Fine. Woke up, lost 4 pounds. GREAT. VLCD2, I had about 385 calories, felt light-headed and hungry most of the day. FIXATED on food. Very low energy. By the end of the day, you could use the word 'suffering'... I suppose for 380-some calories, I was doing pretty good :p but it was miserable. On both VLCD1 and 2, I was psychotic about following the Protocol to the ounce -- of everything. Veges, my lean protein, etc. And I came up that much short. I think it's because vege's lean protein does not have as many calories in it as meat does. The quinoa I have is something like 25 calories an ounce, and egg whites are 17 each.

    So... today, woke up, lost 2 more pounds. GREAT. But NO WAY did I want a repeat of the day before. I mean, I'm sitting at about 196, I'm 30 years old and 5'10. I don't have a pixie-frame by any stretch; realistically, I have about 25 to lose (I know, cry me a river, right? *chuckle* ) ... I've been down to a lean 159 but usually rest around a healthy 175, and I made it by watching what I eat and getting regular exercise. I know I can do THAT. But... I'm on this, and so's my husband. I've never been THIN. Ever. Not as a child, not in high school. No one in my family is thin -at all-. So... I want to do this, and I know I can't if I have another day like VLCD2.

    For VLCD3, I upped my dose to 166 in the morning, 166 in the evening. I made it a point to hit the -calories- rather than break my neck on the ounces. I mean, I measured out everything and kept track, but I counted my calories up to about 448. For dinner, I had a great spinach-tomato-quinoa salad and my apple... After dinner, we went out to shoot pool and I think I somehow had a blood sugar issue because despite the meal, I felt light-headed and dizzy and just... desperate. All I wanted was to eat like a normal person... nothing bad, nothing fattening, just... normal. *sighs*

    I made it through the evening, came home and had my melba toast with a roma tomato-spinach-lemon bruschetta. Now, sitting here writing this, I feel better... about to take my second dose, actually. I just... damn. It's killing me. Does it get better?

    Are there any hypoglycemics on this...? Could that be part of my issue? Like I said, I'm doing just great for 448 calories. :p But I'm tired... a little depressed. I want to work out, do some yoga, bellydance, walk for a little while without being afraid (terrified is more the word) that I'll get hungry. I just want a -normal- meal. Sheesh, it's only VLCD3 and already I'm driving myself nuts... Any suggestions on how to get through this?!

    Tried shirataki noodles. -Not- my thing. Tried drinking lots of water. It helps, but doesn't solve the problem. I'm not drinking diet sodas, no caffeine... As a matter of fact, I used to take 100mg of caffeine and 25mg of ephedra every morning for over a year and I quit that, on this diet. I'm not taking any medications... I'm just... losing my mind. :p I'm seriously considering backing off this thing and doing it the old-fashioned way. At least then I would have more energy, not feeling like I'm ready to fall asleep or pass out at random moments...

    Anyone who wants to, please feel free to chime in. I'm going to try to stick this out for tomorrow and Saturday. Yes, 6 pounds of loss in 4 days is great but... I feel like a zombie, and it's affecting my home life, my personal life, everything. I'm not sure I can make another 20 days like this.
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    ok, LOTS of stuff messed up here! first of all, your dose is way too low. for SL you DO take 166 TWICE a day, not a total of 166 for the day. and the newest research shows that people do better on 250 twice a day. right now you're only taking 83 twice a day, so you're not at a therapeutic level at all. To get your blood level up more quickly i'd take 200 twice a day tomorrow and then see how you feel saturday morning. if you're pretty good, then try 166 twice a day for a couple of days. but if you're still hungry, try 200. When/if you do increase your dose, give it a couple of days at that dose since it takes 3 days for the hcg to become fully active in your system.

    For those with low blood sugar, you need to split up your food so that you're eating every 2-3 hours. Try having one of your fruits for breakfast, veggie/protein for lunch, fruit for afternoon snack, and veggie/protein for dinner. or save your 2nd fruit for the evening, depending on how early/late you go to bed. if you still feel a bit woozy, you may need to add an extra bit of protein in the morning- popular choices are sugar-free protein shakes, or egg whites.

    you don't have to eat 500 calories- it's not uncommon at all for people to be in the 350-400 range. but you do need the equivalent of 100 grams of lean protein twice a day- anything less than that is protein deficient. so since you're not eating meat, make sure that you're getting at least that much protein.

    finally, if you used to take that much caffeine and ephedra every morning, your body is screaming for stimulants. you should not stop taking them cold turkey. doing so will make you crabby and feel like crap- just like someone trying to go off "speed". i would go back to what you were taking, for a week. fix your dose first, until you're not hungry and feeling ok. then SLOWLY wean off of them- cut them by 20% for a couple of days, then another 20%, etc., until you're off them completely. Your body is already going through detox these first few days, plus you're burning normal fat because your dose is not sufficient- in my opinion, trying to cut yourself off those drugs at the same time is a big mistake. no wonder you're feeling like crap! :)

    change those things and i think you'll feel MUCH better.
    • hCGDietAuthorMiara
    • TimeJun 18th 2010
     # 3permalink
    Thank you for your response, it was as thorough as it was timely.

    You're probably right about the caffeine and ephedra mix. I put that back in today, as well as upping my daily intake of vitamins. Multi, C, my joint supplements, all that. I've also started eating brunch earlier, about 2 hours after I wake up, instead of waiting... And spreading out the food. Counting the calories, rather than fixating on ounce portions, seems to really help.

    I also re-did my math and evidently I was mistaken, I was taking 166 twice a day during my difficulties and double that the first day, on accident. I've increased my dose (yesterday and today) and I've decided to stick this out until at least tomorrow, then re-assess. I've lost 7.8 pounds in 6 days, which is fantastic, but some of the people close to me are concerned about the health effects... so I promised them I'd give it a long, hard look on Saturday.

    So far so good today... not hungry, feeling ok. I -just- took my caffeine so we'll see how it goes I guess. *chuckle* Hopefully I'm not bouncing off the walls in 20 minutes or so... (although that would be funny) ;)
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    Miara, try some chromium picolinate. One of the hcg doctors I've been reading says that really helps with blood sugar issues. Keep us posted!
    Colleen
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    I've also heard that cinnamon helps regulate blood sugar. You can sprinkle it on something or get it the "express" way...by taking cinnamon tablets.

    Angela
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    miara- remember that both caffeine and ephedra suppress your appetite- so if you were hungry without them, i'd increase whatever dose you were taking. we suspect that for people who have a lot of hunger, their hcg levels are not in the therapeutic range and therefore they might be burning normal fat instead of abnormal fat. after you wean off those drugs you'll be able to assess your dose more accurately, but for now i'd assume you're getting some degree of appetite suppression from the caffeine and ephedra.
    • hCGDietAuthorMiara
    • TimeJun 18th 2010
     # 7permalink
    Oh
    my
    goodness.

    That's my reaction to how much better I feel today than yesterday... good GRACIOUS. You all were right, I probably was totally stupid for trying to go off the caffeine cold-turkey (especially when the original Protocol says coffee is ok!) ...sheesh.

    Well, long story short, I have energy today and feel perfectly fine. I'm going to try yoga tomorrow if I feel like this... I got so much accomplished! And I feel like a human, not a zombie! *shakes head, laughing*

    -This-... I can do. Now that I've upped the dose and gone back to my caffeine, I'm not fixated on food anymore, I'm not suffering like I was before... I can have my 120 calorie salad and not be licking the bowl! (it's ok, you can laugh).

    7.8 pounds in 6 days. Wow...
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    yay! i won't laugh, but i'll smile. :)
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    Yay!!!
    • hCGDietAuthormktngwiz
    • TimeJun 28th 2010
     # 10permalink
    I'm on R1 VLCD day 3 and am still starving.... I am spreading eating the protocol diet throughout the day, but I'm still hungry most of the time... And, today I've been feeling light-headed and have been nursing a headache... I'm not feeling the weakness that some have experienced--at least not yet. As this is still my first week I'm hoping all will go away as I get further into the routine...? When can I expect to feel better? I'm excited about the program and excited about the results: I'm down 3.5 lbs net, after only 3 days on the VLCD! :-)

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