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  1.  # 1permalink
    Hi everyone.

    I searched today and could not find a new P4 group. I did see a great thread on P4 tips, can you cut and paste some of those? Not sure if this is frowned upon?

    Let's all join in and support each other and we cross this bridge! I hope the experienced "skinny's" will all join in to help us...Some of us use Pharmacy mixed drops, some do injections; IM or SubQ, and some use HHCG - all are successful so let's all support each other!

    Thank you in advance for all of your support and advice!
    Thankful People: Lady J
    • hCGDietAuthorJ Beanie
    • TimeJul 25th 2010
     # 2permalink
    Per 4everconstant's request...

    This may also help with nut choices...

    Nuts and seeds with less than 1% starch are:
    Brazil nuts (0.7)
    coconut (0)
    coconut milk (0)
    flax seeds (0)
    Macadamia nuts (0.8)
    Pine nuts (0.1)
    sesame seeds (0.5)
    tahini paste (0.5)
    walnuts (0.7)
    These are safe for P3.

    Nuts and seeds with 5% or less starch are :
    almonds (2.7)
    hazelnuts (2)
    pecans (1.5)
    pistachio nuts (2.5)
    These may be safe for some people to us in P3 but for others might be problematic.

    Nuts and seeds with more than 5% starch are :
    cashews (13.2)
    chestnuts (29.6)
    peanut butter (6.4)
    peanuts (6) [technically legumes and not nuts]
    pumpkin sees (12.9)
    sunflower seeds (16.3)
    safflower sees (34)
    chia seeds (6)
    These are very unlikely to work in P3 and almost always cause a gain although some can tolerate small amounts of peanuts or natural
    peanut butter. Better to wait until P4 to try.
    Thankful People: ZeroFloats, atg, 4everconstant
  2.  # 3permalink
    I have borrowed this from Cerigo's original post~~~thank you Cerigo for all of your experience and support!

    Phase 4

    In Phase 4 you very gradually introduce small amounts of starches and sugars into the diet.

    I think that it is important to know a bit about how Carbs work when starting Phase 4:

    Once the starchy or sugary food is digested and converted to glucose (sugar), the glucose then enters the bloodstream and the level of blood-glucose rises. This induces the pancreas to secrete insulin into the blood which "mops up" the glucose and helps convert it into the storage-type of carbohydrate, called glycogen, which is deposited in the liver and in the muscles.

    When the liver and muscle glycogen stores are full, any extra glucose is converted into fat. This adds to fat stores.


    When choosing which starchy and sugary foods to add first:
    I make sure it is a “complex carb” or that it has a low “Glycemic index: GI” (GI food list bottom).

    COMPLEX CARBS
    Carbs can be ‘simple’ or ‘complex’. Simple carbohydrates are quickly digested and release sugar quickly into the bloodstream, whereas complex carbohydrates are harder to break down and gradually release sugar into the bloodstream. Examples of simple carbohydrates are lollies, soft drinks and juice. Examples of complex carbohydrates are whole grain bread, vegetables and fruit.

    P4 TIPS

    1) Where to begin? With high-fiber options, Starchy veggies, Beans and legumes and fruits (Low GI Food). Start by adding one new food per day and then by the second week you can start adding two and by the end of P4 you can be adding three new foods.

    I recommend you to start with Low Glycemic Index foods and slowly (depending on how your body reacts) work your way to the Intermediate and High Glycemic Index foods.

    High Glycemic Index foods should be taken with caution because they are linked to overeating and Obesity. High Glycemic Index foods cause an over production of insulin and then we get cravings for simple sugars and high glycemic foods.

    2) Take Acetyl L-Carnitine. This helps turn fat into fuel.

    3) Walk for one hour, outside, every day. This way you will ‘burn’ the carbs and they won’t store them as fat. A daily exercise work out also helps to improve blood-glucose management reduces hunger and boosts health.

    4) Use organic raw apple cider vinegar as often as possible. Taking of one or two teaspoons of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water before each meal reduces the craving for sweets and foods containing salt and fat; increases your body's metabolism thus burning more calories; helps you maintain a feeling of well being which is an important factor in weight loss and staying healthy; helps to balance the sodium in your diet, and to minimize retained fluid.

    5) Drink organic Yerba Mate tea, chamomile tea, Wu Long tea, and green tea.

    Green Tea: stimulates the body to burn calories and decreases body fat.
    Yerba Mate: raises metabolism and regulates appetite.
    Chamomile: helping to combat stress, depression and insomnia.
    Wu Long: increases the rate of fat oxidation and increases the metabolic rate.

    6) Take digestive enzymes with food. Digestive enzymes help digesting fat, protein and carbs.

    7) Add any type of vinegar to any meal; it lowers the Glycemic load by one third.

    8) Probiotics: Cravings that can't be denied like that are usually caused by Candida. Take probiotics to replenish your gut flora so that Candida doesn't overgrow.

    9) How much carbs a person includes in their diet is entirely dependent on their activity levels.

    10) Eat new carbs with at least 2 hrs in between. My theory is that eating too many carbs at once and not burning them will lead to fat storage.

    11) Avoid eating starchy carbs and very sweet fruits late in the day: As the day progresses, your insulin levels are less sensitive which means you have an easier time converting carbohydrates into fat stores; Your body is basically sedentary and little energy is being used.
    Thankful People: ZeroFloats, Globix
    • hCGDietAuthorJewel
    • TimeJul 25th 2010
     # 4permalink
    Thanx for the invite 4ever--

    Great info J Beanie--Thanxs:)
  3.  # 5permalink
    I have borrowed another Cerigo original post~~~thank you AGAIN Cerigo for all of your experience and support! It is so valuable!!!

    GI Food List

    LOW

    Artichoke <15
    Asparagus <15
    Avocado < 15
    Broccoli <15
    Cauliflower <15
    Celery <15
    Cucumber <15
    Eggplant <15
    Green beans <15
    Lettuce, all varieties <15
    Low-fat yogurt, artificially sweetened <15
    Peanuts <15
    Peppers, all varieties <15
    Snow peas <15
    Spinach <15
    Young summer squash <15
    Zucchini <15
    Tomatoes 15
    Cherries 22
    Peas, dried 22
    Plum 24
    Grapefruit 25
    Pearled barley 25
    Peach 28
    Canned peaches, natural juice 30
    Dried apricots 31
    Soy milk 30
    Baby lima beans, frozen 32
    Fat-free milk 32
    Fettuccine 32
    Low-fat yogurt, sugar sweetened 33
    Apple 36
    Pear 36
    Whole wheat spaghetti 37
    Tomato soup 38
    Carrots, cooked 39
    Apple juice 41
    Spaghetti 41
    All-Bran 42
    Canned chickpeas 42
    Custard 43
    Grapes 43
    Orange 43
    Canned lentil soup 44
    Canned pinto beans 45
    Macaroni 45
    Pineapple juice 46
    Long-grain rice 47
    Parboiled rice 47
    Bulgur 48
    Canned baked beans 48
    Grapefruit juice 48
    Green peas 48
    Oat bran bread 48
    Old-fashioned oatmeal 49


    INTERMEDIATE

    Canned kidney beans 52
    Kiwifruit 52
    Orange juice, not from concentrate 52
    Banana 53
    * Potato chips 54
    * Pound cake 54
    Special K 54
    Sweet potato 54
    Brown Rice 55
    Canned fruit cocktail 55
    Linguine 55
    Oatmeal cookies 55
    Popcorn 55
    Sweet corn 55
    Muesli 56
    White rice 56
    Orange juice from frozen concentrate 57
    Pita bread 57
    Canned peaches, heavy syrup 58
    Mini shredded wheats 58
    Bran Chex 58
    Blueberry muffin 59
    Bran muffin 60
    Cheese pizza 60
    Hamburger bun 61
    * Ice cream 61
    Kudos Whole Grain Bars (chocolate chip) 61
    Beets 64
    Canned apricots, light syrup 64
    Canned black bean soup 64
    Macaroni and cheese 64
    Raisins 64
    Couscous 65
    Quick-cooking oatmeal 65
    Rye crispbread 65
    * Table sugar (sucrose) 65
    Canned green pea soup 66
    Instant oatmeal 66
    Pineapple 66
    Angel food cake 67
    Grape-Nuts 67
    Stoned Wheat Thins 67
    American rye bread 68
    Taco shells 68
    Whole wheat bread 69
    Life Savers 70
    Melba toast 70
    White bread 70


    HIGH

    Golden Grahams 71
    Bagel 72
    Corn chips 72
    Watermelon 72
    Honey 73
    Kaiser roll 73
    Mashed potatoes 73
    Bread stuffing mix 74
    Cheerios 74
    Cream of Wheat, instant 74
    Graham crackers 74
    Puffed wheat 74
    Doughnuts 75
    French fries 76
    Frozen waffles 76
    Total cereal 76
    Vanilla wafers 77
    Grape-Nuts Flakes 80
    Jelly beans 80
    Pretzels 81
    Rice cakes 82
    Rice Krispies 82
    Corn Chex 83
    Mashed potatoes, instant 83
    Cornflakes 84
    Baked potato 85
    Rice Chex 89
    Rice, instant 91
    French bread 95
    Parsnips 97
    Dates 103
    Tofu frozen dessert 115
    Thankful People: ZeroFloats
  4.  # 6permalink
    Here is another valuable post~~~


    * Tofu, ½ cup 20 grams protein
    * Tofu, 1 oz, 2.3 grams
    * Soy milk, 1 cup - 6 -10 grams
    * Most beans (black, pinto, lentils, etc) about 7-10 grams protein per half cup of cooked beans
    * Soy beans, ½ cup cooked – 14 grams protein
    * Split peas, ½ cup cooked – 8 grams

    Beans, baked, canned, plain or vegetarian 1 cup 12.17
    Beans, baked, canned, with franks 1 cup 17.48
    Beans, baked, canned, with pork and sweet sauce 1 cup 13.43
    Beans, baked, canned, with pork and tomato sauce 1 cup 13.05
    Beans, black, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 15.24
    Beans, Cowpeas (Blackeyes), immature seeds, boiled, without salt 1 cup 5.23
    Beans, Cowpeas (blackeyes), immature seeds, frozen, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 1 cup 14.43
    Beans, Cowpeas, common (blackeyes, crowder, southern), mature seeds, 1 cup 13.30
    Beans, great northern, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 14.74
    Beans, Kidney beans, red, mature seeds, canned 1 cup 13.44
    Beans, Kidney beans, red, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 15.35
    Beans, Lima beans, large, mature seeds, canned 1 cup 11.88
    Beans, Lima beans, large, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 14.66
    Beans, Mung beans, mature seeds, sprouted, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 2.52
    Beans, Mung beans, mature seeds, sprouted, raw 1 cup 3.16
    Beans, Navy beans, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 15.83
    Beans, Pinto beans, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 14.04
    Soybeans, mature cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 22.23
    Soybeans, green, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 1 cup 28.62
    Beans, Snap beans, green, canned, regular pack, drained solids 1 cup 1.55
    Beans, Snap beans, green, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 1 cup 2.36
    Beans, White beans, mature seeds, canned 1 cup 19.2
    Lentils, mature seeds, cooked, boiled, without salt 1 cup 17.86
    Potato pancakes, home-prepared 1 pancake 4.68
    Potato, baked, flesh and skin, without salt 1 potato 5.05
    Potatoes, baked, flesh, without salt 1 potato 3.06
    Potatoes, boiled, cooked in skin, flesh, without salt 1 potato 2.54
    Potatoes, boiled, cooked without skin, flesh, without salt 1 potato 2.31
    Potatoes, boiled, cooked without skin, flesh, without salt 1 cup 2.67
    Potatoes, hashed brown, home-prepared 1 cup 3.78
    Sweet potato, canned, vacuum pack 1 cup 4.21
    Sweet potato, cooked, baked in skin, without salt 1 potato 2.51
    Sweet potato, cooked, boiled, without skin, without salt 1 potato 2.57
  5.  # 7permalink
    The post above is also from mgsondance too~~~thank you mgsondance for your invaluable input, and support!


    Here are some more, and these are also P3 friendly:

    To find out your minimum requirement for grams of protein per day, take your weight and multiply it by .37. Remember, this is the minimum amount.

    Beef

    * Hamburger patty, 4 oz – 28 grams protein
    * Steak, 6 oz – 42 grams
    * Most cuts of beef – 7 grams of protein per ounce

    Chicken

    * Chicken breast, 3.5 oz - 30 grams protein
    * Chicken thigh – 10 grams (for average size)
    * Drumstick – 11 grams
    * Wing – 6 grams
    * Chicken meat, cooked, 4 oz – 35 grams

    Fish

    * Most fish fillets or steaks are about 22 grams of protein for 3 ½ oz (100 grams) of cooked fish, or 6 grams per ounce
    * Tuna, 6 oz can - 40 grams of protein

    Pork

    * Pork chop, average - 22 grams protein
    * Pork loin or tenderloin, 4 oz – 29 grams
    * Ham, 3 oz serving – 19 grams
    * Ground pork, 1 oz raw – 5 grams; 3 oz cooked – 22 grams
    * Bacon, 1 slice – 3 grams
    * Canadian-style bacon (back bacon), slice – 5 – 6 grams

    Eggs and Dairy

    * Egg, large - 6 grams protein
    * Milk, 1 cup - 8 grams
    * Cottage cheese, ½ cup - 15 grams
    * Yogurt, 1 cup – usually 8-12 grams, check label
    * Soft cheeses (Mozzarella, Brie, Camembert) – 6 grams per oz
    * Medium cheeses (Cheddar, Swiss) – 7 or 8 grams per oz
    * Hard cheeses (Parmesan) – 10 grams per oz

    Nuts and Seeds

    * Peanut butter, 2 Tablespoons - 8 grams protein
    * Almonds, ¼ cup – 8 grams
    * Peanuts, ¼ cup – 9 grams
    * Cashews, ¼ cup – 5 grams
    * Pecans, ¼ cup – 2.5 grams
    * Sunflower seeds, ¼ cup – 6 grams
    * Pumpkin seeds, ¼ cup – 8 grams
    * Flax seeds – ¼ cup – 8 grams
    • hCGDietAuthorTwinma
    • TimeJul 25th 2010
     # 8permalink
    I start P4 tomorrow. Hope you don't mind I join in here!

    ~Mary
  6.  # 9permalink
    Thank you Jewel. I am hoping we can have one place that is current for all those entering P4, in P4, and preparing for P4 to get support. The other threads seemed to be April/May and those ladies are probably done with their 3 weeks. Invite everyone and hopefully veterans will also join in to help us!
  7.  # 10permalink
    Hi Mary! Great, invite everyone to join no matter what type of HCG they are using. I am so busy and thought this would be one place we could all go that would be active and current. I start next Sunday, but I have not been hungry so I am nervous about adding the starchy carbs.