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General hCG Diet Information: Newcomer Information- Read This First! Original Protocol Link, and Diet Info

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    • CommentAuthormgsondance
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2009 edited
     
    Welcome to the hcg journey! We are in process of posting some threads for those of you just starting out, so you can easily access some basic info and hopefully have a lot of your initial questions answered. If you have additional questions, please either start a new thread or do a "search" for your topic. That way we can keep the "newcomer" threads relatively uncrowded, and it will be easier for people to access that information. For those of you currently on Hcg with advice, please post it in the appropriate category.

    We welcome all of you, as we are a fun and supportive group. We get a bit crazy at times, but there are many veterans on here who will be happy to answer any and all questions you have, and to provide encouragement and support whenever you need it. Plus we love to laugh!

    Here is the link to the original protocol- if you have not read this, this is the best place to start. All other books/clinics/programs have based their programs off the work of Dr. S. http://hcgdietinfo.com/HCG_Diet_Simeons_Manuscript.htm

    The other most common reference for the program is "The Weight Loss Cure", by Kevin Trudeau. It is based on the protocol, but he adds his own theories and "rules" for what you should and shouldn't do while taking hcg (like recommending you eat only organic food).

    Another popular reference is Linda Prinster's book, "HCG Weight Loss Cure Guide". She also has a cookbook out, and both books are available at amazon.com.

    Please remember that none of us are doctors on this site, and any and all information comes from our personal experiences only. We are merely trying to be helpful for those of you wanting to do this protocol on your own. But- you should always check with your doctor to make sure you are healthy enough to follow any diet. You should never stop taking any medications without their approval. That said, your doctor may not be familiar with the Hcg protocol. It is not approved by the FDA for weight loss, although it is approved for a variety of other uses, so it is safe. It has been used in other countries for weight loss since the 1950's.
    Thankful People: Rosiesmom, themeachams, slimtrim
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    Here is the specific diet protocol:

    THE DIET

    The 500 calorie diet is explained on the day of the second injection to those patients who will be preparing their own food, and it is most important that the person who will actually cook is present - the wife, the mother or the cook, as the case may be. Here in Italy patients are given the following diet sheet.

    Breakfast:

    Tea or coffee in any quantity without sugar. Only one tablespoonful of milk allowed in 24 hours. Saccharin or Stevia may be used.

    Lunch:

    1. 100 grams of veal, beef, chicken breast, fresh white fish, lobster, crab, or shrimp. All visible fat must be carefully removed before cooking, and the meat must be weighed raw. It must be boiled or grilled without additional fat. Salmon, eel, tuna, herring, dried or pickled fish are not allowed. The chicken breast must be removed from the bird.

    2. One type of vegetable only to be chosen from the following: spinach, chard, chicory, beet-greens, green salad, tomatoes, celery, fennel, onions, red radishes, cucumbers, asparagus, cabbage.

    3. One breadstick (grissino) or one piece Melba toast.

    4. An apple or a handful of strawberries or one-half grapefruit. (some versions of the protocol also list "orange")

    Dinner :

    The same four choices as lunch.

    The juice of one lemon daily is allowed for all purposes. Salt, pepper, vinegar, mustard powder, garlic, sweet basil, parsley, thyme, majoram, etc., may be used for seasoning, but no oil, butter or dressing.

    Tea, coffee, plain water, or mineral water are the only drinks allowed, but they may be taken in any quantity and at all times.

    In fact, the patient should drink about 2 liters of these fluids per day. Many patients are afraid to drink so much because they fear that this may make them retain more water. This is a wrong notion as the body is more inclined to store water when the intake falls below its normal requirements.

    The fruit or the breadstick may be eaten between meals instead of with lunch or dinner, but not more than than four items listed for lunch and dinner may be eaten at one meal.

    No medicines or cosmetics other than lipstick, eyebrow pencil and powder may he used without special permission

    Every item in the list is gone over carefully, continually stressing the point that no variations other than those listed may be introduced. All things not listed are forbidden, and the patient is assured that nothing permissible has been left out. The 100 grams of meat must he scrupulously weighed raw after all visible fat has been removed. To do this accurately the patient must have a letter-scale, as kitchen scales are not sufficiently accurate and the butcher should certainly not be relied upon. Those not uncommon patients who feel that even so little food is too much for them, can omit anything they wish.

    There is no objection to breaking up the two meals. For instance having a breadstick and an apple for breakfast or before going to bed, provided they are deducted from the regular meals. The whole daily ration of two breadsticks or two fruits may not be eaten at the same time, nor can any item saved from the previous day be added on the following day. In the beginning patients are advised to check every meal against their diet sheet before starting to eat and not to rely on their memory. It is also worth pointing out that any attempt to observe this diet without HCG will lead to trouble in two to three days. We have had cases in which patients have proudly flaunted their dieting powers in front of their friends without mentioning the fact that they are also receiving treatment with HCG. They let their friends try the same diet, and when this proves to be a failure - as it necessarily must - the patient starts raking in unmerited kudos for superhuman willpower.

    It should also be mentioned that two small apples weighing as much as one large one never the less have a higher caloric value and are therefore not allowed though there is no restriction on the size of one apple. Some people do not realize that chicken breast does not mean the breast of any other fowl, nor does it mean a wing or drumstick.
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    Other diet specifics:

    MAKING UP THE CALORIES

    The diet used in conjunction with HCG must not exceed 500 calories per day, and the way these calories are made up is of utmost importance. For instance, if a patient drops the apple and eats an extra breadstick instead, he will not be getting more calories but he will not lose weight. There are a number of foods, particularly fruits and vegetables, which have the same or even lower caloric values than those listed as permissible, and yet we find that they interfere with the regular loss of weight under HCG, presumably owing to the nature of their composition. Pimiento peppers, okra, artichokes and pears are examples of this.

    While this diet works satisfactorily in Italy, certain modifications have to be made in other countries. For instance, American beef has almost double the caloric value of South Italian beef, which is not marbled with fat. This marbling is impossible to remove. In America, therefore, low-grade veal should be used for one meal and fish (excluding all those species such as herring, mackerel, tuna, salmon, eel, etc., which have a high fat content, and all dried, smoked or pickled fish), chicken breast, lobster, crawfish, prawns or shrimp, crabmeat or kidneys for the other meal. Where the Italian breadsticks, the so-called grissini, are not available, one Melba toast may be used instead, though they are psychologically less satisfying. A Melba toast has about the same weight as the very porous grissini which is much more to look at and to chew.

    When local conditions or the feeding habits of the population make changes necessary it must be borne in mind that the total daily intake must not exceed 500 calories if the best possible results are to be obtained, that the daily ration should contain 200 grams of fat-free protein and a very small amount of starch.

    Just as the daily dose of HCG is the same in all cases, so the same diet proves to be satisfactory for a small elderly lady of leisure or a hard working muscular giant. Under the effect of HCG the obese body is always able to obtain all the calories it needs from the abnormal fat deposits, regardless of whether it uses up 1500 or 4000 per day. It must be made very clear to the patient that he is living to a far greater extent on the fat which he is losing than on what he eats.

    Many patients ask why eggs are not allowed. The contents of two good sized eggs are roughly equivalent to 100 grams of meat, but fortunately the yolk contains a large amount of fat, which is undesirable. Very occasionally we allow egg - boiled, poached or raw - to patients who develop an aversion to meat, but in this case they must add the white of three eggs to the one they eat whole. In countries where cottage cheese made from skimmed milk is available 100 grams may occasionally be used instead of the meat, but no other cheeses are allowed.
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    For vegetarians- you may substitute eggs, and milk/cottage cheese for the meat protein, but you may lose a bit less weight. There is a lot of fat in egg yolks, and there is a lot of sugar in milk. If you read past the diet section in the original protocol Dr. S. specifically talks about what your options are.
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    For those with diabetes, high blood pressure, rheumatoid arthritis, gout, ulcers, or high cholesterol- Dr. S. specifically discusses all these conditions, and what happens when you use the hcg. Scroll through the original protocol to find these sections, above "The Diet" section.
    • CommentAuthorMoxiegirl
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
     
    Another way to keep the threads on this site is to use the categories at the very top. there are various issues that have been discussed in the past and new additions jump back to this forum too. but recipes, handy hints etc show up there. that helped me a lot whenI first started.

    Nice posting btw, mgsondance.
    Thankful People: mgsondance
    • CommentAuthormgsondance
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2009
     
    Just bumping this back to the top. For those of you starting out, check out all the "newcomer" threads for some basic info.
    Thankful People: Rosiesmom, themeachams
    • CommentAuthorRosiesmom
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009
     
    Margie

    Excellent idea and possibly once a month bump all the Newcomer threads to the top.

    Mary
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    You guys are great~ I've learned more in 30 minutes browsing here that searching for the past few months elsewhere~ I think it is the difference between a *reference* (to a website with technical info) and some real experience by real people~
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    just bumping this to the top- i'll be adding some more threads as i have time to write them. -margie

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