kay- you can move your food to any part of the day. many of us get up and have our fruit in the morning. but you could even have your protein if you'd like. you can split up the food any way you want to, as long as you don't have two of anything at the same time (like both servings of meat, both servings of fruit).

Another really good day, down 3 lbs. on my 2nd day of VLCD. That makes 7# total in 2 days, below my pre-load weight. I suspect I will level out soon. Yes, Margie & Colleen? Anyway, 38# to goal now.

I've been riding my bike back and forth to work (slightly less than 6 miles R/T), and a little bit of Wii but that's it. I have the regular 20 mile group ride tomorrow that I'm wondering if I should participate in or not. Right now I feel fine, with a good amount of energy.

Hey, Holls,
It's funny that we are in the exact same boat with the same weight and same goal. Let's keep up with each other.:)

ok, daily update: vlcd day 4 another 2.6 lbs down

...about the route of administration debate.....:). There are some "absolutes", and alot of "well, this is how we THINK it works" when it comes to medical knowledge. Basically, anything that enters your body gets absorbed and processed. That is why anything placed on your skin or breathed in thru your lungs will show up in your body, and often be stored in your fat cells. The reason there is no oral hcg, insulin or B12, is because all three are screened out by what is called "first pass effect" through the liver. Essentially, the liver takes it out of circulation before it can make it to any part of the body. The reason sub lingual works for all of these is this area of the body bypasses the first pass effect.

Looking at IM vs sub q.....now you are getting into an area of "this is how we THINK it works". Both areas are reservoirs of sorts. Not everyone's reservoirs will work the same as the next person's. Your absorption from sub q may not be the same as your friends. Absorption from your tummy may not be the same as from your thigh, etc. Also, absorption and distribution thru the body is dependent on the drug. Fat cells have estrogen receptors, and if you inject estrogen into the fat instead of muscle, it is more likely to be scooped up and stored in the immediate area you injected it. My guess is that Dr S thought that fat would also sequestor hcg...but I don't think it does. They have learned alot about hormones since his day.

The volume thing is another whole issue. Technically, sub q injections should not be as large as 1 ml...it is just too much volume unless you are really doing a deep sub q injection. Even IM shots have limits...you are only supposed to inject up to 2 or 3 ml in a deltoid, more than that is to go in the butt. Larger muscles get the larger volume IM shots. The same applies to sub q....if you have alot of sub q fat, then a 1 ml is probably ok....but to say you will absorb it better if the volume is higher ..... well.....if it works for you, then fine...but I don't think it will work for everyone the same way.

You guys have a great debate going on. :)

Barb

Good morning everyone, checking in with today's results, everyone's doing great!!! Mine: R1P2D4, -1.7, -7.4 total. Yippee!