i am wondering more and more about the quality of some of this hcg supply. seems like people are stalling much earlier in their rounds than we used to see. i know the stuff i got from ash has not dissolved nearly as well as the stuff i got from adc. maybe related to how they store it?? the hucog from ash dissolved immediately (china)- the stuff from ash (india) tends to have clumps of powder in the solution that i have to break up with the needle. i don't know if that's clinically significant or not. but i'm not hungry on it, and losing well.

Cris- I'm the one who has been talking about Corion. I used hcuog the first time and it worked but I prefer not to use anything made in China so I ordered the Corion, ADC said it was a better product but no one that I know of has used it yet. I guess we'll be the guiney pigs.

On loading; 2 days are good unless just prior to beginning you were on a diet. I was not hungry in my first round and sure hope the Corion does the same as the hucog. Just be sure to load well on more fats than carbs. I think alot of people who are having hunger issues on this board are not taking high enough doses. The first week you may feel a little weaker than usual but you adjust and after a while you feel really good.

Welcome Cotton! Good luck on your loading days and remember to eat lots of fatty stuff and not so may sweet/carbs. You will be thankful you did during the first week of VLCD. What method are you doing and how much?

This protocal works! Stick with it and read all the threads you can on this forum to help you along, it helps!

weston- anything that comes as a liquid (that you buy online) is homeopathic hcg. i would not suggest that for you, given the problems you have had. they can't sell the pharmacy-grade hcg pre-mixed because it has to be refrigerated, and only lasts about 2 weeks after you've mixed it. so you have to order it in powder form, and mix it yourself.

the confusion comes because you're looking at two different measurements. the dose of the hcg is measured in international units. that varies from 125 units (for IM shots) to 150, 175, or 200 if you're doing sub-q shots. this refers to how much hcg you're getting- like when you'd take 200 mg of motrin, or 400 mg, etc.

the actual amount liquid in the syringe is the VOLUME- a totally different thing. you can take those 200 units of hcg and mix them in a weak solution, requiring a larger volume per shot, or mix them in a more concentrated volume, requiring a smaller shot. the problem is that nurses tend to refer to the volume as "units", also. i try to refer to the volume as ML's or cc's (same thing), to cut down on that confusion. think of it like drinking orange juice from frozen juice concentrate. the "glob" of it that you put in your glass would be the amount of hcg. you could add a little water to it and the juice would be very concentrated, or you could add a lot of water to it and it would taste very dilute. make sense?

the dose of the hcg is what is important. the concentration is not, as long as you're mixing it with the correct amount of water.

if you want to email me i can talk you through how to order and figure out how much you want to buy. mgsondance@hotmail.com

R1 P1 VLCD3 Down 2.1 this morning to 220.1. Lost 6.5 so far. Pretty exciting stuff! Welcome everyone new, and happy shedding! My hunger was much better yesterday. I have the flu today, so I'm sure that'll bite me in the but!!