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    • CommentAuthorTamara
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009 edited
     
    Some recent discussions about eating sugar-free foods vs. "natural" foods on P3 has made me curious if there's any trends we can learn from here...

    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW?

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?
    Thankful People: varkie
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      CommentAuthorrussmc3
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
     
    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3?
    The first few days after LIW my weight went up. I started eating more protein and first stabilized at one pound over LIW.

    How far off are you from your LIW?
    Over six weeks my weight gradually went down to one pound under LIW. I'm back on P2 so I'm down another 9lbs.

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?
    I used stevia on a regular basis. I avoided all other sweeteners.

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods?
    I had a few fast food burgers, but tried to stay away from most processed foods.

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing?
    I took it pretty slow adding other foods back so I didn't have any trouble at all.
    • CommentAuthorPaulaLV
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009 edited
     
    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW?
    I stabalized fairly easily & stay 1-2 pounds below LIW

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?
    No sugar free items, they have alcohol sugars. I used stevia daily, no artifical sweeteners.

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.
    I did eat real foods, vegetables, chicken, beef, eggs, cheese and fruits.

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?
    I don't really indulge much in starchs or carbs. I eat healthy, I go to restaurants but choose wisely. I have a couple of glasses of wine 2-3 times a week
    I'm close to my goal weight of 140, I may do another round of P2 in Januaray for the last 6 pounds or so
    I LOVE HCG! It's amazing & it works
    • CommentAuthoramyleigh
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
     
    Good idea!!!

    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW? I ended P3 within 2 lbs of my LIW. I started P4 yesterday and today am .4 under LIW

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia? Splenda - no ill effect. Sugar free pudding & sugar free ice cream -- caused GAIN! Stay away!!!! Mug cake with splenda = perfect

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners. I look for natural. Not really organic. Minimally processed foods -- took me awhile but I KNOW this is important now!!!

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?
    I will get back to you on this... so far so good, and I've eaten Pizza =/ ... was NOT supposed to be good.
    • CommentAuthorskygdss14
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
     
    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW?

    Very, very easy. 2lbs under LIW exactly.

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?

    No artificial sweeteners during P2 at all, used stevia exclusively. P3 I avoided ALL "sugar free" products altogether. Reintroduced agave nectar in P4; no problems.

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.

    YES!!!! Was doing that even before the protocol, but can't stress enough how important it is. Eating organic for some can be EXTREMELY difficult due to availibility and price, however. It is WAY more expensive to "eat organic" and I am fortunate to have organic products easily available, and the financial ability to do so. However, I do understand those who either don't have organic available to them or can't afford the high price tag that they normally carry. But if you can do it, DO IT!!!!! :)

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?

    Thanks to this message board, I was able to really watch what I ate and took the cue from others who made mistakes, especially with the sugar free products in P3(no offense guys, you actually helped by making those mistakes and posting about them, 'cause I would have made the same ones!!!)

    I can't stress enough how important a food journal is. I think more people would do much better in ALL the phases if they actually kept them, including things like "I showered today and used "X" products and makeup". I did that and even though it seemed ridiculously ANAL at the time...it proved to be SO helpful later. I also believe that many don't want to admit that using an artificial sweetener slowed them down, but I think if they REALLY went back over the days they used it and the days they didn't, they would find a difference...but again, that is just my opinion. I also can't believe how many people do NOT read labels!!!!!!!!!! LABEL READ!! If it's something you have to ask what it is, it PROBABLY is not good for you and a clever way for the manufacturer to "mask" the words SUGAR or STARCH!!! LOL!!!

    I also think too many people do NOT actually READ Pounds and Inches. Seriously. They SAY they do, but they really don't, otherwise we wouldn't have 47 threads about TOM...LOL!!! ;) It's CLEARLY listed right in there! I also believe that although it is a grammatical nightmare(right Colleen??;) ), Linda Prinster's book REALLY is quite helpful, although organized very poorly. Even though I want to scream , "it's not "INTENTIONAL", it's "DELIBERATE" or "ACCURATE" (depending on the sentence) every time I flip to that page...;), it does have some very, very useful tips (including directing me to this message board!) :)
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      CommentAuthorLinda Lou
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009 edited
     
    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW?

    I stabilized pretty well, I had one steak day on day six because I hadn't been getting in enough protein. On the day I started P4 I was exactly at my LIW, today, 1 week into P4 I am .4 below.

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?

    I only used Stevia

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.

    I am in P4 now and have only added nuts, whole grains and sprouted bread.

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?

    I just think adding questionable foods slowly was important and not just going for it. I basically eat a high protein diet and don't worry about fats or calories at all.

    I have only done one round so we will see how the next one goes.
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      CommentAuthorgrammy1952
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009
     
    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW? Very easy. I stabilized both rounds at 1.5 pounds over my LIW.

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?
    I used 1 packet of Sweet n Low per day in my coffee. that's it.

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.
    Not organic since I live in a small town and that is hard to find but I eliminated processed foods and did a lot of cooking of real food. I didn't count calories and ate whatever I wanted.

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?
    I had to do 2 steak days, both dealing with insensitivities I didn't know I had. Once I eliminated them, no problems.

    Great idea to do this, Amy!
    • CommentAuthorkitty
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009
     
    I have stabilized at .2 above LIW. Pretty much every day with one or two exceptions.
    I stay away from sf foods and only sweeten w/stevia. I don't count calories just repeat--no sugar, no starch.
    I eat mostly organic and meats without any hormones, etc.
    I stay away from processed foods (I never eat fast foods). I have developed an allergy to shrimp. I eat a lot of nuts. And almond butter on apples to get my calories up.
    • CommentAuthorpsjack
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009 edited
     
    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW?

    Very easy. I stabilized 2 lbs below my LIW. Never had to do a steak day.

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?

    I used Truiva, 3-4 packs a day. Toward the last of P3 I added SF Chocolate pudding and went up. Once I quite eating it I dropped back to the 2lbs below LIW.

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.

    Natural. But living in a rural area I had a lot of fresh veggies available.

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?

    Listen to your body(thanks Margie) Only eat until your are full, don't try to stuff youself that first week. I ate a lot of protien, eggs, cheese from day one. Didn't worry about fat or calories but took my time adding new things. Stayed away from SF stuff until towards the lastand I gained so I stopped using them. Didn't add milk until towards the last of P3 because of chance of sensitivity.

    Paulla
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    1. How easily did you stabilize during P3? How far off are you from your LIW?
    I had a horrible time stabilizing, I don't know how far off I stabilized because my yorkie decided to use my scale as a pee spot and shorted it out the lastt week of P3. I just got a new scale a week after starting P2 and I am just at LIW today.

    2. Did you eat sugar-free foods with artificial sweeteners, like splenda, during P2 and/or P3? Or some other kind of sweetener, like stevia?
    I used Stevia exclusively for P2 then tried all sugar free candy, ice cream on P3

    3. Did you make a point of eating "natural" or organic foods? Natural meaning minimally processed foods and avoiding chemicals, preservatives and artificial sweeteners.
    Other than the sugar free candy etc I ate only natural
    FYI I have never eaten sugar free stuff before this too

    4. Are there any other factors that you think may have affected stabilizing, like eating sugar and/or starch, adding new foods in too quickly, or food sensitivities?
    I think adding milk to quickly affected it and adding to many foods at once effected but over I think it was the sugar free stuff.