I ate shirataki noodles from a Asian grocery store on P2 with no problems, I've hit my goal weight. I made sure they were the type with zero calories and zero carbohydrates to know they were the right ones and the ingredients on the label were exactly the same as the Miracle noodles.

Japanese "yam four" listed in shirataki noodles has no starch and is a misnomer. "Flour" doesn't mean white flour like we think of wheat, it's just the konjac plant (which they call yam in Asia) ground into powder, like you might grind almonds into powder and call it almond flour. In fact, the Miracle noodle site sells the yam flour they use to make their noodles from in powder form. You can use it to thicken shakes and make a zero-calorie pudding with it. It's also called konjac flour or glucommanan flour but is the same thing. You can determine the starch content of any noodles you buy by looking at the carbohydrate count. If it's zero, then there is no starch or sugar in the product, because carbohydrates are starch and sugar. Carbohydrates can also be from fiber, but you don't have to worry about fiber as you don't digest or absorb fiber. That's what real shirataki noodles are, 100% glucommanan fiber from the konjac yam plant. Here is some information on Wikipedia about the subject. You can buy plain shirataki noodles in many Asian grocery stores, Miracle noodle is just a name brand and if you read the Miracle noodle web site and the labels, you will see they call their product shirataki noodles, with the ingredient listed as glucommanan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konjac
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirataki_noodles

Konjac (English pronunciation: /ˈkoʊnjæk/; Amorphophallus konjac; syn. A. rivieri; Japanese: 蒟蒻/菎蒻; こんにゃく; konnyaku; Korean: 곤약; gonyak; Chinese: 蒟蒻; pinyin: jǔ ruò), also known as konjak, konjaku, devil's tongue, voodoo lily, snake palm, or elephant yam (though this name is also used for A. paeoniifolius), is a plant of the genus Amorphophallus. It is native to warm subtropical to tropical eastern Asia, from Japan and China south to Indonesia.

It is a perennial plant, growing from a large corm up to 25 cm in diameter. The single leaf is up to 1.3 m across, bipinnate, and divided into numerous leaflets. The flowers are produced on a spathe enclosed by a dark purple spadix up to 55 cm long.

The corm of the konjac is often colloquially referred to as a yam, although it bears no marked relation to tubers of the family.

Shirataki (白滝?, often written with the hiragana しらたき) are very low carbohydrate, low calorie, thin, translucent, gelatinous traditional Japanese noodles made from the konjac plant. The word "shirataki" means "white waterfall", describing the appearance of these noodles. Largely composed of water and glucomannan, a water-soluble dietary fiber, they have little flavor of their own.

Shirataki noodles can be found both in dry and soft "wet" forms in Asian markets and some supermarkets. When wet, they are purchased pre-packaged in liquid. They normally have a shelf life of up to one year. Some brands may require rinsing or par-boiling as the water they are packaged in has an odor that may be unpleasant to those not accustomed to it.

There are two types of shirataki noodles sold in the United States. Traditional shirataki noodles have zero net carbohydrates, zero calories, no gluten, and are useful for those on low-carbohydrate diets.[1] Tofu-based shirataki-style noodles are becoming increasingly popular in U.S. supermarkets and health food stores. They have a much shorter shelf life and require refrigeration even before opening. Tofu-based noodles contain a minimal amount of carbohydrates

Do the noodles count as any one food group allowed?

Thats awesome straightscoop, thanxs for clarifying that

I bought the shirataki noodles on P2 and used them 3 times with out problems they always made me nervous because everyone was saying you bought the wrong noodles. havent used them much in P3 because I'm trying to eat things with more calories but now at least I know they arent a concern

I ordered my noodles from: http://www.konjacfoods.com/index.htm

They are the same thing as Miracle Noodle plus small bags & cheaper. Right now on P2 I've made Hot & Sour soup with them, 1 can of beef broth, rice vinegar, cayenne pepper & a hand full of the noodles, depending on the broth you use less than 1 cal per serving & this gives me 2 servings. I use this when I get hungry & need to feel full.

Susie- I really wish we could get Millis question answered. I really want to try them but dont know if they are instead of a veggie or protien? Please advise if you know THANKS!