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  1. sashagirl's Avatar
    Hi- I am on the 6th day of a stall. ......I am day 18 vlcd and this happens around day 13 I start to slow or stop losing??? People say to keep going and it will come off but the cycle of this phase is suppose to end on the 23rd and 72 hours after that I dont take the shot.....so how will it come off?? I try working out and not working out and stopping melba and eating melba....its like my body just wont move lower...I cant stomach apples also so I cant do that idea. thanks for any help!!!
  2. Suzy's Avatar
    Hi Katrina and Dubbs, Thank you for responding to my sorrows. Sorry I'm just getting back to you. I was out of town yesterday for a eye doctor appointment in Reno. We went to the Peppermill Casino for lunch. I had turkey breast, probably about 150g, and raw spinach with vinegar and lemon. Then had an apple for a snack that I had picked up at Trader Joes, along with more asparagus, cucumbers, bok choy, strawberries, and grapefruit. For dinner I had 100g chicken, and 1.5 c sliced steamed asparagus, and 1 cup strawberries around 8:00. Total 479 calories.

    Ok, gals, I am 60 years old, and 5.5 inches tall, and my bone size is medium. I've been trying to stay between 400 and 500 calories for the last few days by adding the two fruits back in. Yesterday morning I did reach 134.8, and this morning I was 135.0 lbs. So at least I am going down some. I want to get down to 120-125 lbs. I'll see when I get there, but 9 years ago I got down to 128 and felt so much better. I still had some fat in my belly and waist though, so I will see when I get there. I store most of my weight around my middle, and from years of yo yo dieting, I just kept putting more stored fat in those places.

    You did mention the exercise, which got me thinking. I do normally walk on my treadmill about three times a week for 30 minutes. I do a medium walk, at about 2.5 or 2.7 mph. Maybe this is contributing to my slow weight loss and stalls. Since I wasn't really working that hard, I didn't think it would have much effect. Maybe it has had though. Hmmm. I had a blood test the end of my first week and my cholesterol was 280!! My LDL was 203!! My cardiologist and MD both got very concerned and wanted me to take a statin. To me that seems impossible, but then it makes sense if your body is releasing the bad fat into your blood stream during that first week on HCG. But the count scared me so I kept up my walking on the treadmill for my cholesterol.

    Today is my Day 34. I'm still on the drops, hoping to reach 130 before I end this round. How many days can I stay on P2 using the drops? I'm just keepin on at this point, hoping for the best. Thank you again. Love and appreciation!!!
  3. Katrina's Avatar
    And Dubbles, I wouldn't be surprised if she loses weight on Round 3 when she ups her proteins. Suzy I just have a sneaky feeling that may happen because your calories did run so low. Mine usually ran 450 and on rare occasion 550. If you exercised and didn't increase proteins in P2 it might cause you not to lose. I stated walking my last week which could have caused my weight stall. (that or the new drops - who knows - so many variables) I too am curious about your height, age, and bone size. I'm large boned and I'm 5'6" and at my age (49) and bone size, I think I might not look healthy under 145-150. That's what I weighed in High School and was a good weight for me. I so hope things work out for you!!
  4. Dubbles's Avatar
    I'm sorry Suzy, I know you have had somewhat of a difficult round. Katrina may be right, wondering if your drops are still potent. On the other hand, I don't know how tall you are, but 135-137 is a pretty reasonable weight for someone 5'5. Are you around that height? Maybe you are close to an ideal weight for you. The losses will go slower, the less you weigh. I'd be tempted to go on to p3 myself, in your shoes. You don't have to count calories, though a lot of people do keep track of them, you just have to stay away from any sugars or starches. And they're everywhere! You especially want to up your protein at first. And while you don't count calories, you still want to increase them because you want to reset your body to as to eat more calories and keep your weight table. Try not to be depressed about all this, you've done great thru a difficult round. Hang in there. Hugs
  5. Katrina's Avatar
    Suzy I've just read thru your blog. I really don't have any advise for you that I haven't already seen posted here. I was wondering if by chance you got a bad batch of drops? I've read somewhere on the site where people have changed their drops and found that everything was fine then. I'd assume that if your drops weren't working, that maybe you would be hungry? Not sure about that either because I've also read that after so many days on a fast, you can get used to it and possibly not be hungry. *shrugs* I suppose all I can do is tell you what I've read and who knows if any of it applies. But, if it were me, I do think I would be suspect of the drops. By process of elimination, it seems you have taken everything else into account.

    I took hhcg and when I ran out, the second bottle was a different brand. I took them for at least the last week of my 40 something day round. I don't know if it was the drops or if I never got the dosage right. But, honestly I could have stopped before that week because I never felt like they were working as good as the others. Plus, it showed in my weight loss. I lost 1 lb those last 7 days. Had they been working better, I would have kept on going longer. Could have been the drops....could have been my body telling me it was time to stop???
  6. Catthai's Avatar
    Congrats! You have been amazing! And now I know that it can be done, I'll remember your accomplishment when a stall comes my way :-)
  7. primehcg's Avatar
    Wow, congrats for sticking it out. That takes a lot of commitment. I hope that never happens to me, because I don't know if I could stick it out that long, but glad you did and now at least I have someone to look up to if that does happen.
  8. happydj's Avatar
    Hoooray! Congrats for sticking to protocol...that can be frustrating. I was ALSO stalled for 12 days. It was tough and I, too backed away from the forum for a bit. BUT after breaking the stall I've lost 2.2lbs in two days! Hope you have the same or MORE!
  9. Dubbles's Avatar
    Woot! Woot! Finally! A 12 day stall is enough to make anyone a little crazy! So glad the scales finally moved for you, and I so hope they continue to move. Really, a 12 day stall is the pits, good for you hanging tough through it all.
  10. Dubbles's Avatar
    Suzy, I think I read once that Grammie had a 2 week stall one time. I wouldn't eliminate everything, I'd just make sure I drank plenty of green tea, and ate cleanly on protocol. It'll move, eventually. It's so frustrating I know. Hang in there, ok? Hugs.
  11. justjoan060's Avatar
    Suzy: I feel ya, sister!! Read my blog from just now and you'll see I've been going through the same thing!
  12. Suzy's Avatar
    I have cut out all salt also.
  13. tnsweetness's Avatar
    My goodness Suzy...I hope it breaks soon. Fingers and toesies crossed!
  14. Suzy's Avatar
    Feisty, I really don't retain water. My fingers rarely get fluffy. I don't get visited by TOM anymore...yeah! This morning I was still at 139. I guess it is a set point, a big plateau. Thank you too Dubbs. I appreciate you checking in on me. I love your advise. I did notice that my boobs looked different in the mirror this morning. And it wasn't for the better. Kinda hanging low, if you know what I mean. Yesterday I upped my protein by 30g for both meals, and only had 1 fruit - grapefruit for breakfast. I was slightly over 500 calories, though I did eat chicken for both meals. That didn't work either. So today I am doing what has been suggested by yous. No salt at all, two different proteins, and two fruit eaten in morning and afternoon, and 2 tbs Braggs ACV. I do feel fine and I am not that hungry throughout the day. I'll let you know when I break this cycle. Thanks all.
  15. Dubbles's Avatar
    Can't add much to all the good advice above. Just want you to know we're all interested in your dilemna. I'd try several of those suggestions. Keep us posted. Stalls are bummers! Maybe you'll stabilize really well in p3 now.
  16. Feisty's Avatar
    Suzy your diet looks very much like mine. I'm a food rotator too. AND your BP is very similar to mine so I don't worry about salt either BUT.... It does cause me to Fluff if I eat too much. My guage is my fingers. Fluffy fingers mean too much salt no matter what the BP says. Also...... How's 139 for a set point for you? I know it's early but since you don't have a 'lot' to lose you might just be bumping up against that. Glad to see you are doing the Braggs ACV and Lemon. I use both. Put your fruit back in for a few days and do strict protocol as you have been. Then shake it up with an extra protein day and knock out the late fruit. See if that gives you a bump. How do you feel? I know it's hard but be patient and stay focused and intent.
  17. Suzy's Avatar
    Thanks for your input Lawgal. I will give what you have suggested a try. Others have said that they do well with chicken twice a day, but maybe I don't. I normally do not have problems with salt. My blood pressure is always around 112 over 70. I will try deleting the salt for a while and see what happens, and go back to two different fruits for the morning and afternoon snacks. I do have Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and normally put a tsp in my spinach, salads, cucumbers, along with lemon. I will try taking the 2 tbs a day. I know others swear by it. As for the red mead, I only tried it once. I probably won't have the steak again for a while. I'll go back to the 100g of protein too. Also, I do normally have two 12oz mugs of green tea a day in the mornings. Maybe I'll try more of the tea too. I really appreciate your taking the time to try to help me out. Thanks so much. Wish me luck!
  18. lawgal's Avatar
    I have found that my body apparently has issues with salt, regardless of whether its on protocol or not. I'm also having issues with red meat, so I'm sticking to fish, chicken & seafood. I've also been told (& its in Dr. S's pounds and inches) not to eat the same foods in one day. Your body needs the variety to keep your metabolism breaking down different foods.

    You don't know me from Adam... just happened go read your blog tonight because I had no loss or gain yesterday (Sat.) Morning. But maybe try this... drop the salt, go back to 100g of protein, add your second fruit back in, but don't have the same protein and the same veggie for both meals. Also, make sure you have two different fruits too. Try taking 2tbsps of Apple cider vinegar per day, either in your food, diluted with water or straight up (I do it straight up just to get it over with). Also, cut back the red meat or let it go for a couple days to see what happens. Try to have chicken for lunch and the lighter fish or seafood for dinner. Keep the melba out. You don't need it. Lastly, someone else's blog mentioned that the meal that helped her to lose most weight was crab and cucumbers for dinner. Finally, to keep your metabolism working all day, try having your one fruit mid-morning, then protein and veggie for lunch, fruit mid-afternoon, and then protein and veggie for dinner. If you don't already drink it, add green tea two to three times per day. Just my thoughts. Hope you feel better soon!
  19. Suzy's Avatar
    Feisty and Prime: I cut out the bread sticks and melbas after the first two days of stall. I also cut myself back to one fruit, and even no fruit some days. I have checked my labels. I even just checked my Arm and Hammer Complete Care Toothpaste. I use no oil products. I use oil free lotion, if I use any. I use no oil shampoo and conditioner. Occasionally, when I use makeup, I only use mascara, eye shawdow, and no oil powder. I did use Braggs Aminos once, but with the stall I stopped using that also. I do use sea salt on my chicken and tomatoes, but the protocol says that salt is ok. Today I increased my protein by another 30g for both meals to see if that helps. My total calories still only comes out to 403. How in the heck are you supposed to get your calorie count up only eating one fruit and no bread sticks? I do weigh my cooked chicken, tuna and shrimp at 80g. And I do drink 1 gallon of water a day. Here's what I've been eating:

    Day 22: Sat. 2/26/11 403 calories, 139lbs. -0
    L: 130g chicken, 1 3/4 cup cabbage, 1 cup chicken broth - Costco Kirkland Organic
    S: 1/2 grapefruit
    D: 130g chicken, 3 cups spinach with ACV

    Day 21: Friday: 2/25, 343 Calories, 139lbs. -0
    L: 100g chicken, 1 cup cucumber
    S: 1/2 apple
    D: 100g cod, 3/4 cup radishes
    S: 1/2 apple

    Day 20: Thurs. 2/24, 314 calories, 139lbs. -0
    L: 100g chicken, 1 cup tomatoes
    D: 100g tuna, albacore in water, 1 cup cooked spinach
    S: 1/2 cup strawberries

    Day 19: Weds. 2/23, 408 calories, 139lbs. -1
    L: 100g chicken, 2.5 cups cabbage cooked in 1 cup chicken broth - Costco Kirkland Organic
    D: 130g ribeye round steak, 1 1/2 cups asparagus
    S: 1 cup strawberries

    Day 18: Tues. 2/22, 304 calories, 140lbs. -0
    L: 100g chicken, 3 cups spinach
    D: 100g chicken, 1 cup cucumber
    S: 1 cup strawberries

    Day 17: Monday: 2/21, 300 calories, 140lbs. -0
    B: 1/2 grapefruit
    L: 100g shrimp, 2 cups spinach with ACV and lemon
    D: 100g chicken, 1 cup sliced tomatoes

    Day 16: Sunday: 2/20, 266 calories, 140lbs. +1
    L: 100g chicken, 2 cups spinach
    D: 100g chicken, 1 1/2 cups asparagus

    Day 15: Saturday: 2/19, 339 calories, 139lbs. -1
    L: 100g shrimp, 2 1/3 cup cabbage, 2 cup chicken broth
    D: 100g chicken, 1 1/2 cup cucumber
    S: 1 cup strawberries

    The protocol says to keep it under 500. I don't know how to get it close to that just using the veggies and the recommended 100g of protein. Veggies just don't have a lot of calories. Maybe I should add back in two fruits and a bread bread stick. I'm just not sure what to do at this point.
  20. primehcg's Avatar
    I would try cutting out the melba toast or grissimi if you haven't already, and cutting 1 fruit. But that's just me. I have absolutely no scientific backing for this, except for the fact that in real life, not hcg diet, fruit causes an increase in insulin, which hinders fat lost.
    I only eat 1 green apple a day.
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