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I hesitate to mention my history with being underweight because when I do people online draw the conclusion that I do not need to lose weight.

So to put it all on the table:

1. I am overweight. Before starting IVF I was on a medically supervised diet. My dr. would not have accepted me as a patient if I did not need to lose weight. It is true: he did not agree with how much I wanted to lose and he said once I hit his goal for me I would be happy and he would release me as a patient. Since my IVF cycle, I am up an entire jeans size so I am objectively fatter now than I was when I was accepted as a patient for a medically weightloss program. So the fat/overweightness is real. Not just in my head.

2. Scales, in general, are bad for me. So from the age of about 26 until I started this diet I did not weigh. When I had to weigh a drs appts they would put a folder in front of the bar so I wouldn't see. Even furing my pregnancy and more recently on my medically supervised diet we only talked in terms of how much I had gained/lost and never how much I weighed. So, yes, you will see a lot of panic from me in my blogs and posts. I never knew how much I weighed and I'm really shocked and upset about it. That the scale doesn't move down on this diet is making me panic.

3. I am not sabotaging myself. I want to lose weight. If anything, I can be charged with being too aggressive. And I'm trying to learn what works for my body but I'm not purposely messing up so that I am not successful in this endeavor.

4. I do want to be thin, not just average or normal or okay. I like the way I look thin. But I will never be too thin again. I have a precious son and I will always do whatever I need to do to be healthy and happy for him. If I lose weight and get to a size 6 or 8 and I like the way it looks I will stop there. But right now I remember liking the way I looked best at a size 4 so that is the goal I am working on at the moment. If at my age a size 4 is too small, I'll abandon that idea. But I can't know until I start to lose.

5. For those of losing lots of weight you can't really know what kind of head game goes on when you eat 500 calories and wake up to a heavier weight on the scale. If being worried/afraid/panicked/nervous about the implications of that isn't allowed on this board...then...I'm not sure what to do or say.

6. I do lose weight more slowly than others because I spent over a decade underweight. I know and I accept that. The aforementioned dr suggested hCG as a way to repair my metabolism/reset my hypothalmus. So another component of my panic is that my progress thus far is a bellweather that I will not be able to fix what I messed up. That said, I was expecting the weightloss on hCG to be faster for me since the protocol is so strict. Others girls I know lost 30 lbs on a 40ish day round I was NOT expecting that. I was expecting a 20 lb loss. But at this rate I will be lucky to lose 10. So I'm sad. And it's okay for me to be sad about it. It doesn't mean I'm not ready to lose the weight. It means I'm human and I get upset and disappointed the way humans do when their expectations are not met.

Anyway, that's the long and short of it.

Thank you for reading.

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  1. Abinco's Avatar
    Grits, what day are you on? What is your menu for any given day? You should be losing. The average for the diet for women is anywhere's from .5-2lbs a day. This forum is a great place to be with others dealing with the same issue's as you or just to be with those of us who have done it or are doing the diet. Please do not feel like you can not express your feelings. If you find a board that is not receptive, choose another. There are many on here that are great! Not found one that was not yet.

    I know certain foods, drinks, or lotions etc can cause not much loss. Not getting enough calories and not drinking enough water can do that also. Maybe do a detox bath. Some find eating red meat at night makes them gain so they eat it for lunch. For me, red meat was okay and I had it every night for dinner then an apple as that was more filling and I did well with that. Everyone is different. I could not eat Navel oranges or I gained. Shrimp was not good for me either so I ate lots of white fish types. You just have to mess around with the menu to find what works. Many take apple cider vinegar daily to help flush the fat. I didn't but know it has great benefits. I used it on my food instead. I recommend eating cleaner foods as you are detoxing and adding foods that have chemicals, can hurt the affects of the detox. I know some people can not afford to do organic but try to do the best that you can with what you can afford. Salt, is allowed but sea salt. The sea salt sold in the grocery store is not good. Go to a healthfood store and buy real sea salt that is not pure white. I prefer Celtic Salt but Real Salt and Himalayan are good also. They do not make you retain like the other salts and are actually healthy for you adding many minerals etc. Walking 30 min helped me lose more consistently. With it being winter, that can be tough to do. I only drank coffee, tea, water and sparkling water. Some drink diet drinks and other but I stuck to protocol. I took all my supplements except for Omega's as no oil of any kind is allowed. No cooking sprays either. Maybe something you are doing or eating is causing your diet to go slower? Don't know, just a thought. Here to help.
  2. Dubbles's Avatar
    Heh Grits, you got some great information in Ab.'s post. Not much for me to add. I'd just like to say, I even gained on the protocol, and like u I did not cheat at all. I was so worried about oils and all that stuff, I wore rubber gloves to fix my dog's food or to handle food--on the first round. I'd still occasionally go up .2, .4 . and even .6 one time. But then a day or two later, I'd lose maybe a lb. Averaged about .6/.7 over the long cycle and about the same on my short cycle. Some of us just have these issues, maybe it's water retention, I don't know, but don't let it get u down. It does work, and for most everyone. Seems like some wrote they started losing more toward the end of their round? Pay attention to your body build, if u feel a little thinner. I first felt thinner in my arms of all places, then my back. Just saying don't give up. No one is mad or accusing you of anything because u are upset, frustrated. It's just being too upset might be counter productive as it could cause u to give up, and I think over the long haul u'll do fine. Fingers crossed for u.
  3. jdc's Avatar
    Hey Grits,

    I totally understand the issue of not wanting to know what you weigh as the scale totally freaks me out too. I got a scale that tells me how much I have gained or lost but not my weight. It actually speaks to you using Mary Lou Retton's voice (remember her-the olympic gymnast). Anyway, it works for me and now that I have lost a lot of weight I actually went out and got a regular scale again as now I don't mind seeing the numbers.

    You can order it online: Here is the link: http://www.marylousweigh.com/Product...(MLWBase).aspx

    I hope this helps and hang in there!
  4. grits's Avatar
    Thanks, Abinco! I do eat organic. I've been clean and green for three years now! And I do sea salt as well.

    I only drink water or decaf tea but mostly water.

    And there is not a drop of oil in anything I eat or put on my body.

    I used to exercise 2 hrs/day but thought I couldn't on this diet. But then I found out last night that I can. My boot camp resumes on Tuesday so I will be getting back to working out next week. I have been taking 1 hour walks every night but I don't really consider that exercise since it wasn't in the cardio range.

    Thank you so much for reading and commenting. When I figure out why I'm gaining and not losing I will be shouting it from the rooftops!
  5. grits's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jdc
    Hey Grits,

    I totally understand the issue of not wanting to know what you weigh as the scale totally freaks me out too. I got a scale that tells me how much I have gained or lost but not my weight. It actually speaks to you using Mary Lou Retton's voice (remember her-the olympic gymnast). Anyway, it works for me and now that I have lost a lot of weight I actually went out and got a regular scale again as now I don't mind seeing the numbers.

    You can order it online: Here is the link: http://www.marylousweigh.com/Product...(MLWBase).aspx

    I hope this helps and hang in there!
    Thanks Dubbles!

    You have been very supportive. I'm not going to give up. I don't quit so I will see this through P4 and then decide whether or not to move on to another diet/exercise plan.

    I'm hoping that it is a tortoise/hare event and that I have some big losses coming to me soon!
  6. grits's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by jdc
    Hey Grits,

    I totally understand the issue of not wanting to know what you weigh as the scale totally freaks me out too. I got a scale that tells me how much I have gained or lost but not my weight. It actually speaks to you using Mary Lou Retton's voice (remember her-the olympic gymnast). Anyway, it works for me and now that I have lost a lot of weight I actually went out and got a regular scale again as now I don't mind seeing the numbers.

    You can order it online: Here is the link: http://www.marylousweigh.com/Product...(MLWBase).aspx

    I hope this helps and hang in there!
    Very cool!

    I will check it out!
  7. Abinco's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by grits
    Thanks, Abinco! I do eat organic. I've been clean and green for three years now! And I do sea salt as well.

    I only drink water or decaf tea but mostly water.

    And there is not a drop of oil in anything I eat or put on my body.

    I used to exercise 2 hrs/day but thought I couldn't on this diet. But then I found out last night that I can. My boot camp resumes on Tuesday so I will be getting back to working out next week. I have been taking 1 hour walks every night but I don't really consider that exercise since it wasn't in the cardio range.

    Thank you so much for reading and commenting. When I figure out why I'm gaining and not losing I will be shouting it from the rooftops!
    Good to know Grits and please let us know if you figure it out. I am totally stumped. Could it be you are not eating 500 cal? Glad you are on track and sticking to it! We are here for you! ((Hugs))
  8. grits's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Abinco
    Good to know Grits and please let us know if you figure it out. I am totally stumped. Could it be you are not eating 500 cal? Glad you are on track and sticking to it! We are here for you! ((Hugs))
    There have been some days that I do not meet 500 calories but I wasn't sure what to add. I think I almost always get at least 450.