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    Kale by error

    Awk! I mistakenly thought kale was on the list of foods for phase 2. I wonder if anyone has eaten kale on this phase and if you've seen a delay in loss? Could it be considered of the lettuce family? Maybe I should have posted this as KALE DAMAGE!

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    People eat any number of items not on the original protocol menu. It is individual how they affect people. Some seem to get away with some off-protocol items. Other show gains or stalls from them. The problem is that we have no way of knowing how they might affect your long-term stabilization. The protocol isn't just about losing weight, its about normalizing your hormones and fat stores. There was research done on a number of foods, and the ones selected were considered the most helpful to the program.

    So that means there would have been some options that were neutral and others that were actually detrimental. We only have a couple mentions of detrimental foods. Pimento peppers and pears are mentioned as hindering the effects of the HCG, for instance. It is not really something guessable.

    But to answer one of your questions. Kale is actually in the cabbage family. But so is broccoli and cauliflower, and they are not on protocol either.

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    I recently made the mistake of grabbing a bag of Tuscan kale ( also known as lacinato or dino kale). A serving is very high in carbs (11!!!). But then again, apples are much higher (and have sugar!) yet you are allowed those!

    Bear in mind, also, the varieties of vegetables today are much greater than in Simeon's day. It could well be that he didn't include kale because it may not have been something readily available, not necessarily that it was not conducive to the diet.

    More often than not, I find that when I deviate from the original protocol, the more I kick myself in the rear for it! My body is most unforgiving towards me in P2. There are exceptions, though, but still that is all derived from painfully time consuming trial and error. And I don't know about you, I'm more interested in rocketing the fat off than taking the scenic route! The safest option is of course to stick to the protocol, and if you decide to deviate, assume liabilities and proceed at your own risk.

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    I had kale on my diet and had no problems. I actually baked kale with pink salt and seasonings to make my own "kale chips" as snacks.

    I'm curious if anyone else used kale or any other vegetable that wasn't on protocol.
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    I wonder if your kale had added sugar or something? I looked online and 1 cup of kale was 6 carbs and 33 calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeliaRose View Post
    Awk! I mistakenly thought kale was on the list of foods for phase 2. I wonder if anyone has eaten kale on this phase and if you've seen a delay in loss? Could it be considered of the lettuce family? Maybe I should have posted this as KALE DAMAGE!
    usually a good rule of thumb is to keep net carbs to 30 daily. If you can make kale fit, then you should be good. We have many patients who eat a variety of fruits and veggies and lose as long as they stay at the 30 net carbs, however, avoid the sugary options.
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