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    How to count the days of a planned interruption

    Hi all,

    I have to do a planned interruption of HCG for a two week trip I'm taking. I've read as many posts I can about it and feel I understand what I'm supposed to do except on three points:

    1) which days count for the two week maximum? Should it be counted the day after last injection or the first day after the 72 hours?
    2) I know I am to eat more than 800 calories during the PI but should I really be aiming for the number of calories one would eat during P3?
    3)Also I plan on just increasing vegetables, fats, and meat intake and keeping the dairy, and nuts intake low. Since the P&I recommendation is more dairy, is that plan ok?

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    Count from the first day after the 72 hour draw-down. The planned interruption starts once the HCG has left your system.

    You do not have to add more calories. You just have to eat at least 800 calories. Go by your satisfaction signals. Eat P3 style but stop eating before you feel full. You'll minimize any extra gain that way.

    Yes, you don't have to add dairy at all if you don't want to.
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    Thanks for the help Leez! Perfectly clear.

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    I've done Planned Interruptions on 2 of 3 rounds, and generally stayed around 1000 calories, but no dairy during that time since it seemed to cause big jumps. When I was on it for two weeks, i would do a high fat mini-load the day i resumed the injections and include a whole pint of HWC in coffee or tea throughout the day, fatty meats for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and mac nuts as a snack. I was never hungry after resuming P2, and always lost at least 5 more pounds by the time the round ended 10 or so days later.
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    sdwis chooses to do a mini-load day after her planned interruption, but it is not required in the protocol. You do not need to do any kind of load as long as the PI does not last longer than two weeks.

    Here's what the protocol has to say about it:
    If the interval lasts less than two weeks the patient can directly resume injections and the 500-Calorie diet, but if the interruption lasts longer he must again eat normally until he has had his third injection.
    So even then, its not really a load he is talking about, but eating normally as the HCG builds up in your system again.
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    Sorry Ladies, I didn't know more responses had been written!

    Quote Originally Posted by sdwis View Post
    I've done Planned Interruptions on 2 of 3 rounds, and generally stayed around 1000 calories, but no dairy during that time since it seemed to cause big jumps. When I was on it for two weeks, i would do a high fat mini-load the day i resumed the injections and include a whole pint of HWC in coffee or tea throughout the day, fatty meats for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and mac nuts as a snack. I was never hungry after resuming P2, and always lost at least 5 more pounds by the time the round ended 10 or so days later.
    Thanks so much for sharing your experience. Dairy seems to make me bloat which is so odd because as far as corrections days go, FFF day is the one that yields the best results! What is HWC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    sdwis chooses to do a mini-load day after her planned interruption, but it is not required in the protocol. You do not need to do any kind of load as long as the PI does not last longer than two weeks.

    Here's what the protocol has to say about it:


    So even then, its not really a load he is talking about, but eating normally as the HCG builds up in your system again.
    Ah gotcha. I wondered on the wording of that. Normally would mean upped calories P3 style.

    I guess what is so confusing is that technically by the time you reach a PI you could just as easily been ending your round since you've reach the time frame and end the same way. I don't understand why the caloric intake can be so low. For me P3 is tricky because I have to get the caloric intake just right (not too little) so I'm afraid that once I'm on PI my body will expect the same (regardless of hunger because I often had to almost force feed to get my calories above 1200 or so) otherwise I'll start gaining weight.Any thoughts?

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    Jade, I'm wondering the very same thing about calories in and fat requirements during the PI. I've got one scheduled from June 30 to July 7. And then planned P2 for 10 more days.

    I've never done one before, and I have searched the forum (miss the older style search engine!) and I can't seem to get a definitive answer other than consuming at least 800-1000 calories. I really don't want to mess this up.

    I have cycled between rounds (2-3 weeks of phase 3 before restarting another P2.) but that's different and not protocol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tracy View Post
    Jade, I'm wondering the very same thing about calories in and fat requirements during the PI. I've got one scheduled from June 30 to July 7. And then planned P2 for 10 more days.

    I've never done one before, and I have searched the forum (miss the older style search engine!) and I can't seem to get a definitive answer other than consuming at least 800-1000 calories. I really don't want to mess this up.

    I have cycled between rounds (2-3 weeks of phase 3 before restarting another P2.) but that's different and not protocol.
    I hear you on not messing up. The sad thing about HCG is because everything is time limited. I always feel paranoid about doing something wrong because losing a week on this isn't the same as another diet ugh! lol. I'm actually to do the PI and then do a 23 day with HHCG. Then I'll stop. I actually think I did a PI once before a couple of years ago but I don't even remember for sure. I think it was a bit short and I don't remember if it was a problem or not.

    Well if it helps I am happy to share with you what I do and what happens during the first week of me doing the PI since I'll be starting first. I'll be doing my last injection on the 19th.

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    Iím so grateful for this post! The timing is so uncanny since yesterday, an unplanned visit to Mexico-thing happened and I have to take a 3 day break since the hotel has no fridge for Hcg, and because Mexico is not known for their Hcg-Diet friendly food menus.

    So far, Iíve stuck to water, and an omelette.... I ordered a veggie omelette made with no oil etc - at the last minute, I decided to add turkey sausage...

    They brought me a hot dog omelette.

    You canít make this stuff up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicejade View Post
    ....I guess what is so confusing is that technically by the time you reach a PI you could just as easily been ending your round since you've reach the time frame and end the same way. I don't understand why the caloric intake can be so low. For me P3 is tricky because I have to get the caloric intake just right (not too little) so I'm afraid that once I'm on PI my body will expect the same (regardless of hunger because I often had to almost force feed to get my calories above 1200 or so) otherwise I'll start gaining weight.Any thoughts?
    What I think is happening is that Dr. Simeons is giving a way to not gain during the planned interruption. Notice he is specific on the kinds of food that should be added to get calories up. They are all proteins but have more fat than the protocol proteins. He does put emphasis on the words "at least 800 calories".
    If an interruption of treatment lasting more than four days is necessary, the patient must increase his diet to at least 800 Calories by adding meat, eggs, cheese, and milk to his diet after the third day,
    We instruct people to follow P3 guidelines as an expanded definition of this list. From other text in the book, it seems expected that you would be eating more than just the protein expanded items on a planned interruption, so we take that to be inferred.

    Because you've only completed the shortest round possible, stabilization is going to be more iffy, the first week or so rather volatile scale-wise, and possibly that is what he is trying to address. We know from watching all the thousands that have passed through the forums that those who complete a long round generally have an easier stabilization in P3. That's all just supposition though. Maybe someone else will have a further take on it.
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    That makes sense to me, Leez. I'm grateful that I'll have 34 days under my belt before the PI. And I plan to monitor the cheese intake - my nemesis!

    Jade, I would love to hear about your experience, if you wouldn't mind posting on here, I'll happily follow and cheer you on!

    Jen, wieners and eggs?? No mas!
    sounds like you are making good choices, keep us informed as to how you managed the "unplanned" planned interruption (UPI) after only a couple weeks into P2. I think your smartest move was to not be on injections. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenya View Post
    I’m so grateful for this post! The timing is so uncanny since yesterday, an unplanned visit to Mexico-thing happened and I have to take a 3 day break since the hotel has no fridge for Hcg, and because Mexico is not known for their Hcg-Diet friendly food menus.

    So far, I’ve stuck to water, and an omelette.... I ordered a veggie omelette made with no oil etc - at the last minute, I decided to add turkey sausage...

    They brought me a hot dog omelette.

    You can’t make this stuff up.
    HA! Geez. It's awesome how you're rolling with it. I hope you can work it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    What I think is happening is that Dr. Simeons is giving a way to not gain during the planned interruption. Notice he is specific on the kinds of food that should be added to get calories up. They are all proteins but have more fat than the protocol proteins. He does put emphasis on the words "at least 800 calories".

    We instruct people to follow P3 guidelines as an expanded definition of this list. From other text in the book, it seems expected that you would be eating more than just the protein expanded items on a planned interruption, so we take that to be inferred.

    Because you've only completed the shortest round possible, stabilization is going to be more iffy, the first week or so rather volatile scale-wise, and possibly that is what he is trying to address. We know from watching all the thousands that have passed through the forums that those who complete a long round generally have an easier stabilization in P3. That's all just supposition though. Maybe someone else will have a further take on it.
    Ah gotcha thanks for the break down Leez! My time on it has been longer for the round which is why I'm shifting to HHCG after the PI. I know it's supposition but it makes sense!

    Quote Originally Posted by tracy View Post
    That makes sense to me, Leez. I'm grateful that I'll have 34 days under my belt before the PI. And I plan to monitor the cheese intake - my nemesis!

    Jade, I would love to hear about your experience, if you wouldn't mind posting on here, I'll happily follow and cheer you on!

    Jen, wieners and eggs?? No mas!
    sounds like you are making good choices, keep us informed as to how you managed the "unplanned" planned interruption (UPI) after only a couple weeks into P2. I think your smartest move was to not be on injections. Good luck!
    Will do Tracy! If I forget please PM me a reminder.

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