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    @Jayk and @Natalie

    Thanks for you encouraging posts. I also noticed that reading a book and avoiding alcohol helps big time. However, I just found something that works amazingly well for any residual night eating I had: OTC lithium supplement.

    While metformin took care of 70-80% night eating, some still persisted, especially when I stayed late and/or watched TV.

    But, 2 weeks ago I discovered something that totally eliminated my night eating. Lithium supplements in mid to late afternoon, about 4PM. Not only it makes me calmer, but also eliminates night eating, the obsession with eating is simple not there. I understand that Lithium is actually used by some MDs for eating disorders, so no, I'm not bipolar. Interestingly, I tried it before in AM and it had impact on night eating. I think the PM timing of lithium fixes my chronically broken diurnal cycle body clock. Sure enough, I was always an evening person and only hungry in PM.

    Lithium is available OTC as lithium orotate. More than one pill works better for me. The only thing is people with hypothyroid should be careful as it makes hypothyroid worse. But this should stack well with HCG as HCG is known to stimulate thyroid.

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    That's awesome, Jack! I've heard that many people can benefit from lithium.
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    nice idea about saving that fruit for later.

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    I have this as well. It gets so bad that if i resist the urge to snack then once i fall asleep, i sleep eat. There's nothing freakier then waking up with lunchables and popcorn all over you. Ive done it since i can remember. =(

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    i haven't been to this forum in a long time. i guess that means i'm doing reasonably well, and moved on to other things. recently i broke my limit of 200lbs that held for over a year, and decided to come back and update. the night eating became less an issue, and i really don't know what eventually helped. i still take low dose lithium in PM, and started taking a low dose lamictal in AM a year ago, for the reason that i became hypomaniac after reconnecting with an old flame of mine. then, in the last december, i added agmatine to my regiment due to complications with my new love (considering that we are both married and it's unrequited). the final piece of the puzzle is i recently came back from vacations in Hawaii (5 hrs time difference), and that time zone adjustment made us wake up early and go bed early, skipping dinner.

    the best i can figure it out, i had a bad lifelong mental habit of night eating that was hard to shake, and the various meds/supplements and the circumstances made it possible for me to replace the habit with a healthy one. the transition took a long time, and fortunately i was too busy with other things to worry about it. Did i mention i take metformin, too? it helps with prediabetes and losing weight too.

    edit: i just remembered, there could be also one more thing that helped and maybe even the most important. i make sure i don't eat for at least 12 hrs between PM meal and next day AM meal. what that means is when i eat early dinner and don't snack later in PM, i can reward myself with a filling breakfast next AM. if i do snack in PM that means i have to skip breakfast. this serves as a system of penalty and award that keeps me on track.

    the whole process started over 3 years ago with HCG that jump started the whole process, so i'm very thankful to this community. however, i have to admit that the process is way more complicated than just HCG or just the diet. it's truly a lifestyle change and fixing your broken psyche. some other people start it by bariatric surgery, but i'm happy i avoided that.

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    Very happy for you as well that you didn't need surgery. The hcg is the way to go. And your right, one has to change their lifestyle as well .

    I am sure you will get back to where you want to be.... Good Luck

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    update a couple of years later. since that last post my weight oscillated between 190-200 lbs and it's back to 200. the last year was very stressful, and the night eating habit is slowly coming back. now, i see it more in terms of complex trauma of my childhood and youth and the night eating and TV watching is the addiction that i use to self soothe myself just like some other people use alcohol instead. for some reasons, i can function well and eat well most of the day, and nigh time comes and i crash with my will power going to zero. at least i have good insights now into my shadows, addictions, etc. watching the following series of 8 videos helped me tremendously. now i need to accept i'm dealing with a life long addiction to emotional overeating and somehow find a different way of self soothing other than food. any ideas? i may need to start a separate thread on that.

    enjoy the videos on complex trauma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IxEwPMqB-c

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackblack View Post
    Thanks for chiming in. What's cortisol manager?



    Nope, my family doesn't let me do it.

    Lately, I had more success of curbing my night eating. What helps, I avoid watching TV in evenings and try getting more sleep. I also experiment with various (legal) stimulants and will report back when I figure out something that works well.

    I'm sorry, I know nothing about the disorder. I don't know if you are referring to sleepwalk eating, or just wanting to eat at night while watching t.v. My only suggestion was going to be, if you do watch t.v. at night, maybe try to do something with your hands while watching--I play scrabble on-line while tv watching, or solitaire on line while watching, And if at all possible I fast forward thru commercials. If you are food trigger sensitive, then commercials are brutal! And you know what, they make the food look better and tastier than it really is. I've come to realize that. Sorry, wish I had better suggestions, but those would be mine. And, like some of the others, Sometimes, I try to get away from kitchen as much as possible. I tell my DH on nights where I might really be sensitive or wanting to eat a little extra--I'm going to bed and just watch tv upstairs. I try to hang out till 9:30, but there are days it might be 8:30 or 9:00. I'll watch t.v. upstairs until 11 usually, but I try not to make trip back downstairs. Hope the suggestions from everyone help a little. Good luck.


    Whoa, this is edited--somehow I missed that those postings were from years ago. Well, I enjoyed reading the thread, anyway, glad you have it figured out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    Whoa, this is edited--somehow I missed that those postings were from years ago. Well, I enjoyed reading the thread, anyway, glad you have it figured out.
    no problem Dubbles! it's good to see people responding with empathy. there were a few times i thought i figured it out only for it to come back during stressful times. i maybe using the term night eating incorrectly. in my case, it's not sleepwalking and eating. it's more like when it gets late at night and i'm tired and stressed this huge compulsion comes to eat and mindlessly watch TV. maybe it's a bit an OCD thing?

    your advice is superb. that's exactly what i did last night. i ate some soup and some comfort food (walnuts) for dinner, read some psychological things on the net and went to bed early listening to an audiobook. i was asleep literally in minutes. today i'm uneasy due to relationship problems and trying to do the self-soothing techniques from: https://lonerwolf.com/self-soothing-techniques/

    the basil tea is actually not bad.

    Thanks again Dubbles and i'm glad you enjoyed my rocky journey. it's in my family. my mother was like that and my daughter has similar problems.

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    HANG in there, spring, warmer times are on the way--lots of regrowth!

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