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    Quote Originally Posted by booklover View Post
    Ellyn, I realize this is a really late reply, but in case anyone is reading...I back off exercise during HCG, then when I'm about a week into p3 I start building back in a regular routine.
    I just posted this on another thread:

    You can't ride two horses with one butt.

    On hCG, this means to me that I really have to choose between effective fat loss or increased physical capacity.

    In my experience, exercising with too much intensity in P2 interferes with my losses. A daily walk at moderate pace is fine for me. I can go for a hike or bike ride, do some yard work, and be good. But when I try to implement my "normal life" type of exercise (heavy weights, HIIT cardio) in P2, not only do I stall, I suck at the workouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyn View Post
    I am a healthy 61 year old who has worked out daily for years. I either walk the dog, do a more strenuous treadmill workout, or hike. I'm 30 lb from my goal weight and lost about 30 with Paleo. I'm in R1, P2, day 5, 10.4 lb lost so far. I noticed on day 4, my treadmill work was a real effort and I felt terrible for awhile after. I had to walk around for several minutes, I was very winded and had to really cool down before hitting the floor to stretch out. Today, I scaled way down and still struggled to last my usual 40 min. Is this normal? Any suggestions? Am I missing a supplement (I take a lot) that I need to add in?
    I've had the same experience.

    Burning fat doesn't seem to produce the same physiological benefit, at least when it comes to exercise, as good clean food.

    This protocol for me has it's tradeoffs. I've struggled with both my cardio and resistance exercise, so I've lightened it up. I've cut back on the intensity and duration of both. With that said, I still think it's a good idea to exercise.

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    In my own experience, I find that while I feel quite good while on HCG, I really don't have much endurance. I can manage a 30 minute walk with no problem. But if I try to do something more strenuous, I wear out really quickly. That's when I'm made aware that there's a fuel issue from the low calorie diet.

    I don't think you can coax the program into greater losses by more or harder exercising. In fact, it can work against you as your body will have to deal with some inflammation from a hard workout. It doesn't seem to be a problem to continue activities you are used to doing, but just some common sense and listening to your body should help you find the workout level that is right for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    In my own experience, I find that while I feel quite good while on HCG, I really don't have much endurance. I can manage a 30 minute walk with no problem. But if I try to do something more strenuous, I wear out really quickly. That's when I'm made aware that there's a fuel issue from the low calorie diet.

    I don't think you can coax the program into greater losses by more or harder exercising. In fact, it can work against you as your body will have to deal with some inflammation from a hard workout. It doesn't seem to be a problem to continue activities you are used to doing, but just some common sense and listening to your body should help you find the workout level that is right for you.
    I have to agree.

    I'm not so much trying to increase fat lose, or build muscle, during Phase 2, I'm just trying to retain as much lean mass as I can. My experience with cardio is the same as yours, I use an elliptical, to get my heart rate up in the least amount of time, and maintain controllable consistency. 20-30 minutes is doable, but it wipes me out. My coach has me set up once a week to do 45 minutes, which is almost impossible. I stay on the machine for the duration, but I'm barely moving the last 10-15 minutes. and my last round of 45 mins made me feel like absolute crap.

    So, I would also conclude that you need to pay attention to your body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyn View Post
    I am a healthy 61 year old who has worked out daily for years. I either walk the dog, do a more strenuous treadmill workout, or hike. I'm 30 lb from my goal weight and lost about 30 with Paleo. I'm in R1, P2, day 5, 10.4 lb lost so far. I noticed on day 4, my treadmill work was a real effort and I felt terrible for awhile after. I had to walk around for several minutes, I was very winded and had to really cool down before hitting the floor to stretch out. Today, I scaled way down and still struggled to last my usual 40 min. Is this normal? Any suggestions? Am I missing a supplement (I take a lot) that I need to add in?
    It is not recommended you do much exercise in p2 You can do moderate walking but you are not taking enough calories to do strenuous exercise till you complete the protocol Im 72 yo and since 2011 dropped 70 lbs with hcg most was lost in 2011 I think exercise is good but not whike you are on 500 cal
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    According to me both diet and exercise are equally important.

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    Exercise recommendations have changed in the past few years by the professional and science organizations because we know a lot more about the inflammatory effects of vigorous exercise than we once did. The ACE and the CDC guidelines are now recommending moderate exercise 30-60 minutes per day (that would include things like walking, swimming, cycling, other kinds of cardio)and two days per week of body weight activities. There is no upper limit on moderate exercise for healthy people, but doses above about 100 minutes per day don't confer additional reductions in mortality. For vigorous workouts like jogging, even less time is recommended because of the risk of inflammation the more time you spend doing it.

    I usually walk a couple of hours per day much of that on hills and when I do P2 I can walk comfortably about 60-90 minutes per day, more if it is broken up throughout the day. I have a problem with orthostatic hypotension on reduced calories so I have to be careful getting up and down from seated and lying positions, and I also swim in open (cold!) water but I skip that during P2. If somebody is working out 2 hours a day to lose weight, it's smarter to change your diet and drop your exercise minutes.

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    Well, according to nytimes; eating less is far more important than exercising more

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    Both are equally important, I guess.

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    Hi everybody, if you want to lose weight you need to combine exercise and proper nutrition. Only if you'll carry both items you will be able to lose weight and see results on the scale and in the mirror. You should choose the exercise program and diet. You should feel a lightness and energy rather than fatigue and hunger. I believe you can do it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyn View Post
    I am a healthy 61 year old who has worked out daily for years. I either walk the dog, do a more strenuous treadmill workout, or hike. I'm 30 lb from my goal weight and lost about 30 with Paleo. I'm in R1, P2, day 5, 10.4 lb lost so far. I noticed on day 4, my treadmill work was a real effort and I felt terrible for awhile after. I had to walk around for several minutes, I was very winded and had to really cool down before hitting the floor to stretch out. Today, I scaled way down and still struggled to last my usual 40 min. Is this normal? Any suggestions? Am I missing a supplement (I take a lot) that I need to add in?
    Ellyn, I have had 2 rounds where I didn't exercise....had NO energy. I just finished my 3rd P2 round and exercised the entire way through. (light Upper extremity weights, elliptical, and a weekly tennis drill and a few fun matches). I did struggle some...walking up 2 flights of stairs would make my legs like noodles etc......the tennis drill would wear me out and I'd be "beat" that night etc....... I took epsom salt baths on most nights. I also took B-12 injections the first 4 weeks and continue with a B complex supplement now. All that said.......the best advice is to simply.....LISTEN TO YOUR BODAY. Do NOT push the exercise. Do what your body tells you it can do. You do NOT have to exercise on P2 to have a successful round and I didn't lose anymore on this last round where I exercised than I did on the first round where I did not exercise. I have no idea what the difference was. But, your body is working hard to mobilize fat and re-shape in P2.......taking care of it and listening to it is the KEY. (and, following protocol). Hope that helps. I don't think there is one right answer. It is what works for YOU. In general, those that have been exercising generally continue to do what they can tolerate....most can't manage the "same" intensity. I am a consistent exerciser and simply could NOT during my first round. Still not sure why!! Good Luck.....and don't try to exercise in pre HCG manner. Just do what you can!!

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    Both are equally important for weight loss. I believe if one is taking diet, then it should be rich in proteins and nutrients so that body can get high metabolism. There are many dietary supplements available today for the same purpose. And exercise helps a person to keep the body in motion, it helps to avoid the coagulation of fats in body.

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