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    New--need help

    Hello , Iíve done 9 days of injections( 7 days of phase 2) . Iím on 200iu( Nuimage ) on days 5,6& some of 7 I cheated . Consuming 1000-1500 extra calories each days.. the hunger was out of control . I want to keep going and continue. I know I can fix it ... is it to late? Little background, Iím 42 , 5í2Ē 155 pounds. On a low dose T3 & T4 thyroid med & a low dose of Bioidentical Testosterone cream. I also do not get periods . Iím not in menopause, but 4 years ago I had my uterus removed due to Adenmyosis , but kept my ovaries and have no issues with ovulation( so I still have a cycle , just no bleeding ) ...the problem is since I donít menstruate and I that means I wouldnít know where in my cycle I am,I wouldnít know when to stop the injections so I take them everyday except once a week ... can anyone help me out there ... I want this to work

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    .. the hunger was out of control .
    That is almost certainly because your dose is too high. This can be fixed and you can recover and have a successful round.

    Skip your dose tomorrow, and if your hunger has lessened or disappeared by early evening, lower your dose the next day to 150iu.
    Let us know how you feel tomorrow evening even the result is different than that.

    Most people don't stop for their periods anymore, so its fine to just take your weekly skip day all throughout your round.
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    Thank you Leez for responding , I forgot to mention . I have read everywhere to reduce dosage , so this morning ( on 7th day I went all the way down to 125 iu ) was still hungry but at that point I felt like I had gave up and it was hormonal hunger ... should I just continue tomorrow with125 iu and see how I feel ?

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    You'll get relief faster if you skip tomorrow.

    After the skip day, if your hunger leaves by late afternoon or early evening, continue with either 150iu or 125iu starting the following day. Most people are ok to start out at 150iu, but Dr. Simeons always used the 125iu dose. It is likely you will be fine on either one.

    Whatever dose you choose, stay at that dose for at least 4 days, and then we can assess again and determine if another skip day is needed. If your hunger is controlled and you are losing then you've found your new dose.
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    Hello, so I went ahead and skipped a dose today ... all day (morning & afternoon I wasn’t hungry ),but by 6pm I was , ate dinner and continued to be hungry , but by 9pm was very hungry.

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    The only thing that matters for diagostics is your hunger level in the early evening. It seems to indicate that your dose is low. That is a bit unexpected from your earlier descriptions. The problem is that your results may have been confused by changing dose drastically the day before, so I think you need to establish a new baseline and stay at the same dose for four days, and then if there is still a hunger issue, skip again to re-assess. I think that 150iu would be an appropriate place to start that process.

    It would be very unusual for a 200iu dose to be too low, but stranger things have happened.
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    Just to give you a better idea here is my dosing schedule from the beginning -
    Loading days 1-150/ 2-150 /3-150iu
    Phase 2(low calorie) day1(day4)- 175iu. / day2(day5)-175iu / day3(day6)-180 iu / day4(day7)-185iu hunger started later evening ——-
    Day5(day 8)-200iu extreme hunger started after 2pm
    Day6(day 9)- dropped to 125iu hungry(shot was a done a few hours later than normal ) all day hunger and extreme mood swings- like extreme pms
    Day7(day10)- skipped dose( felt ok al day except after 6 was hungrier, also had a rash and horrible headache all day )
    Today day 8(day11)- 125iu tried intramuscular upper hip/buttocks, so far not starving , feeling ok


    I hope that helps to see exactly what Dosages ive been playing with , please let me know if have any recommendations looking by this ... thank you

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    I'm glad you posted that, as your first post gave the impression you were on 200iu since the beginning.

    No wonder the skip day gave some puzzling info. You are pretty much changing dose daily, and that confuses things.

    Here's why: a dose of HCG takes 3 days to come to full strength. So a dose change on one day isn't fully settled in until day 4. They overlap each other. Its not like insulin that is is fully active as soon as you inject it.

    Injecting 125iu intramuscularly is usually a sure way to fix dose issues, so that was a good decision. But only if you stick with it. IM at 125iu is usually a rock solid sweet spot dose for almost everyone. I'm assuming you used the right needle length for IM. You can't use the SQ insulin needles for that.

    If, after 4 FULL days on IM, if you are still having hunger problems, please post and we'll look at other indicators besides just hunger.
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    No, are used a subcutaneous injection needle. I don’t have anything else and I don’t know where to get them . Can I still do subcutaneous injection shots in my stomach with 125?

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    OK, so the shot you did in your hip/buttocks was not IM, because the needle isn't long enough to reach the muscle.

    You can continue to inject as normal in the stomach area with your SQ needles.

    Hopefully, you have found your correct dose now. Please resist the urge to change dose on a daily basis. It makes the diagnostic skip day pretty much worthless, and that's about the only tool we have to help you with dose adjustment.
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    I’ll stay at 125 for 3 more days, then reassess.. so 125 subc. Is just as good as 125 IM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki76 View Post
    I’ll stay at 125 for 3 more days, then reassess.. so 125 subc. Is just as good as 125 IM?
    Typically Subq dose is closer to 150

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