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    It's important to do the skip day because both a dose too high and one too low can have the same hunger symptoms. You want to be sure you adjust in the correct direction so that you don't lose valuable time figuring it out while having poor losses.

    I'm not sure, though, that you are going to get a fair test with a skip day done tomorrow since you took such a high dose today.

    Generally a skip day is accurately diagnostic if you have been on the same dose 3 days before skipping.

    You might need some specialized advice on this. Let me see if grammy will pop into this topic and help you out with the best way for you to proceed.
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    It's important to do the skip day because both a dose too high and one too low can have the same hunger symptoms. You want to be sure you adjust in the correct direction so that you don't lose valuable time figuring it out while having poor losses.

    I'm not sure, though, that you are going to get a fair test with a skip day done tomorrow since you took such a high dose today.

    Generally a skip day is accurately diagnostic if you have been on the same dose 3 days before skipping.

    You might need some specialized advice on this. Let me see if grammy will pop into this topic and help you out with the best way for you to proceed.
    Well i took today off from shots and only felt hungry during the normal times. So what does that say for dosing wise? Do I stay at high dose or lower?

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    Its hard to say since you had extra in your system from the double dose.

    I think trying 150iu might be good since when you double-dosed things seemed better.

    You'll have to be aware if hunger crops up again and do another skip day if needed. (not until you've had at least 4 doses at 150iu though.)
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    Hi Grammy,

    I'm getting ready to start my first round and first dose tomorrow. You are so wonderful for helping all these people, btw.

    I got NuImage injections, 26 day course with B12. They recommend mixing 5 mL of B12 into the 5000 IU vial of HCG and doing .2mL injections per day. I'd like to follow your recommendations of starting at 150 and go from there. Do you recommend diluting/mixing any differently (keeping in mind I'm mixing into the B12?) and if so, how and how would I change my dose to get to 150 mL?

    I was planning to inject for 23 days (I understand that the last 3 days are NOT injecting but HCG remains in body and you stay on VLCD for 72 hrs), but I was thiking of seeing where I'm at the last few days and possibly continuing the protocol and HCG a few days longer. Is that recommended? In other words, would it still be potent enough at days 24, 25 and 26 if I wanted to continue a few extra days (and then I would stop and do the last 3 days 500 cal diet no injections)?

    Or would I need to skip a day a week to go beyond 23 days? (I think that was in pounds and inches), but again, I wouldn't want to do that if it meant my last several doses would be completely ineffective due to degradation.


    Also, for loading do you have any advice? I've gained about 8 pounds this month just stress eating, etc., and I am loathe to gain more during loading. I want my load to be effective without being ridiculous and gaining more than I need to. Any calorie or fat target to shoot for? And do you recommend clean loading (low carb) or just eating stuff you like with higher fat?

    Thank you in advance for your help!


    It's my understanding that this will lose potency after 23-26 days, so skipping a day a week isn't probably advisable, do you agree?

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    If you are mixing 5ml into 5000iu, you would get a dose of 150iu by pulling to the .15 or 15 mark on your syringe.

    If you mix 10ml into 5000iu, would would get a dose of 150iu by pulling to the .3 or 30 mark on your syringe. Its a good idea to use this ratio (1:2) because it makes it easier to change dose if that becomes necessary.

    Most of us mix with bacteriostatic water, so I'm not sure about your B12 solution, but generally B12 is better if you inject it separately. Some think that the HCG degrades faster if mixed with B12. But apparently NuImage thinks its ok.

    If you decide to mix 10ml with your solution, to keep the same dose of B12, you would need to use 5ml of the B12 solution plus 5ml of bacteriostatic water.

    If you are going to do a 40 day round, you need to skip one day a week. If you are doing the shorter rounds (23 injections up to 30) you do not need to skip. If you can extend your round to 30 injections, you may stabilize easier.

    Your solution should stay useable up to 30 days, but can start degrading before then. But you have enough product that you could start increasing your dose if that starts to happen towards the end of your round. If you have the option to mix fresh after 3 weeks or so, that is the surest way to have the most potency. It may not be an issue with the compounded HCG. A lot of the providers say the HCG is good for 60 days or more. You may be fine with what you have.

    There is not a calorie goal for loading. Just eat something with fat in it every time you have some room. Eat to capacity. It is not necessary to eat beyond capacity and will just make you miserable. You can minimize load gain by loading on mostly proteins and fats if you wish. Go for the omega 3 fats as much as possible (nuts, seeds, avocado, real butter, coconut and olive oils). It also can make your first few days of the diet easier, because you are not detoxing from a big load of starches and sugars. I've loaded that way (with a couple treats thrown in like my favorite sourdough bread and icecream), and also with an all out pastry/pizza fest. They both work, its all how you want to handle it. If you've been feasting for a while, it might appeal to you to do a low-carb load. A normal amount of gain for a 2 day load is 1-3 pounds no matter how you load. It will be gone after the first day or two of the diet.

    There are some that have huge loading gains, but that is because they indulge in something on their load that there body is very sensitive to. It all comes off when the inflammation goes down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    If you are mixing 5ml into 5000iu, you would get a dose of 150iu by pulling to the .15 or 15 mark on your syringe.

    If you mix 10ml into 5000iu, would would get a dose of 150iu by pulling to the .3 or 30 mark on your syringe. Its a good idea to use this ratio (1:2) because it makes it easier to change dose if that becomes necessary.

    Most of us mix with bacteriostatic water, so I'm not sure about your B12 solution, but generally B12 is better if you inject it separately. Some think that the HCG degrades faster if mixed with B12. But apparently NuImage thinks its ok.

    If you decide to mix 10ml with your solution, to keep the same dose of B12, you would need to use 5ml of the B12 solution plus 5ml of bacteriostatic water.

    If you are going to do a 40 day round, you need to skip one day a week. If you are doing the shorter rounds (23 injections up to 30) you do not need to skip. If you can extend your round to 30 injections, you may stabilize easier.

    Your solution should stay useable up to 30 days, but can start degrading before then. But you have enough product that you could start increasing your dose if that starts to happen towards the end of your round. If you have the option to mix fresh after 3 weeks or so, that is the surest way to have the most potency. It may not be an issue with the compounded HCG. A lot of the providers say the HCG is good for 60 days or more. You may be fine with what you have.

    There is not a calorie goal for loading. Just eat something with fat in it every time you have some room. Eat to capacity. It is not necessary to eat beyond capacity and will just make you miserable. You can minimize load gain by loading on mostly proteins and fats if you wish. Go for the omega 3 fats as much as possible (nuts, seeds, avocado, real butter, coconut and olive oils). It also can make your first few days of the diet easier, because you are not detoxing from a big load of starches and sugars. I've loaded that way (with a couple treats thrown in like my favorite sourdough bread and icecream), and also with an all out pastry/pizza fest. They both work, its all how you want to handle it. If you've been feasting for a while, it might appeal to you to do a low-carb load. A normal amount of gain for a 2 day load is 1-3 pounds no matter how you load. It will be gone after the first day or two of the diet.

    There are some that have huge loading gains, but that is because they indulge in something on their load that there body is very sensitive to. It all comes off when the inflammation goes down.
    Thank you! I think I'll do that. I'm SO READY to lose, the idea of gaining any more makes me shudder. I like the idea of changing my mindset and going low carb for the most part.

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    So you don't recommend doing all 10mL of the B12 into the HCG? You think I need to get 5 mL of bacteriostatic water?

    And where can I get bacteriostatic water?

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    If they told you to use 5ml of the B12 mixture for 5000iu and you use 10ml, you will be doubling your B12 dose.

    Depending on how much B12 is in it, that might not be a bad thing, especially if you are B12 deficient. Its just something to consider if you decide to dilute more. It might be a small enough amount that it doesn't matter if you double it.

    If it were me, I would mix with all bacteriostatic water and take the B12 separately if you wanted it.

    You can get bacteriostatic water from Missourimedicalsupplies, or Formagenix. I've ordered from Formagenix, and their regular shipping got supplies to me 3 days after I ordered (they ship from Phoenix). You can pay for faster shipping as well. I haven't tried to buy it from a local pharmacy or veterinary clinic. I don't know that you can.

    You can just go ahead and mix as NuImage instructs if you are ready to get going. It does make it harder to adjust dose with that 1:1 mix, but lots of people do it that way and they manage.
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    Thanks for sharing such useful info.

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    I’m new to this site and I’m going to start my injections I got mine from Cvs and it’s a 10000iu should i mix it with the 10ml water it comes with or should i buy a different one and how much should i inject 125iu or 150iu for the 40days what I need to know is how much bacteriostatic water I need to mix so I can have enough for the 40days please and thank you in advance

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    If this is your first round, 150iu is a good starting dose. If not, start at the dose you ended your last round if it is less than 150iu.

    10,000iu mixed with 10ml bacteriostatic water means you will draw to the 15 or (.15) on a U-100 insulin syringe for at 150iu dose. We recommend mixing in a 1:2 ratio instead (10,000iu to 20ml). In that case you draw to 30 (or .3) on the syringe. Using the 1:2 ratio makes it easier to adjust dose if needed, and you also don't leave as much in the needle, so the dose is more accurate.

    You can mix any ratio you like. My dose is lower than 150iu, so I like to mix 1:4. Here is a chart that will help you check your math:
    https://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforum...lations-21439/

    If you have the option to get smaller vials of RX HCG, I would do that because you are going to waste a lot of your 10,000iu bottle as the solution is usually only good for 30 days once its mixed.
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    Has anyone ever left there hcg shots out of the fridge before and is it still good?

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