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    Red face I am from Hawaii and live here (big island) yes we eat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aedion View Post
    Thank you Beth!

    Just to clarify, on the planned interruption do I continue to the VLCD, or do maintenance for those two weeks?

    (And just to clarify, on loading do I inject for those two days or not?)
    Aloha Aedion
    I live on The Big Island of Hawaii and Yes our whole culture revolves around local food and plenty of it! I sure would not try to eat 500 calories in Hawaii you will offend your O'Hana. I gained 130 pounds on a horrible drug for seizures called Seroquel and now have 95 more to loose. I finally got my HCG from Switzerland and have learned how to mix it from page one of this site and the You Tube Videos which really helped too. But I can't figure out how to know how much to take and how often. I have seen Beth knows a lot and somehow manages to get all over all these blogs and forums and help everyone! So I just have to keep researching. I have my diabetic syringes and they go up to 50 units. So I guess I take 40? As I can't imagine filling my syringe 5 times to get 200 units there would not be enough for the whole phase of 23 days.
    And how often do I take it?
    Thank you Antoinette
    I was at 298 I am now at 254 I need to get to 160 hoping the HCG protocol will help

    Starting Weight 298
    HCG R1 Lost 13 pounds 30 days P2 4 weeks P3 Lost 3 more pounds.
    HCG R2 P2: 244
    Day 2 242
    Day 3 239
    Day 6 238 Off HCG Days 12-20 ran out.
    Day 20 237 RE Started 5000HCG (Round 2 Day 1)
    Day 22 234 new low Day 3
    Day 5 234

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    ChristiF Can you look at my "Ticker Factory Thingy and tell me what I did wrong there? I don't have a pictures like you and everyone else does. I have what looks like programming code; is Lily Slim easier to use than Ticker Factory? I goofed somehow. Antoinette

    Starting Weight 298
    HCG R1 Lost 13 pounds 30 days P2 4 weeks P3 Lost 3 more pounds.
    HCG R2 P2: 244
    Day 2 242
    Day 3 239
    Day 6 238 Off HCG Days 12-20 ran out.
    Day 20 237 RE Started 5000HCG (Round 2 Day 1)
    Day 22 234 new low Day 3
    Day 5 234

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoinette View Post
    ChristiF Can you look at my "Ticker Factory Thingy and tell me what I did wrong there? I don't have a pictures like you and everyone else does. I have what looks like programming code; is Lily Slim easier to use than Ticker Factory? I goofed somehow. Antoinette
    Did you use the code for "forum signatures"? I clicked on UBBCode under forum signatures and copied. The LilySlim was easy to make.

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    Thank you for help on forum signatures.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristiF View Post
    Did you use the code for "forum signatures"? I clicked on UBBCode under forum signatures and copied. The LilySlim was easy to make.
    Aloha ChristiF:

    You know I think that is what I did not do is select the "forum signatures"
    then when you loose weight do you have to adjust it somehow? I will try LilySlim. Oh hey I got it done today look here April 7th 2012 and today is my first day of Phase 2 the newbie I am and kept it at 538 calories today too.

    Thank you so very very much
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    Starting Weight 298
    HCG R1 Lost 13 pounds 30 days P2 4 weeks P3 Lost 3 more pounds.
    HCG R2 P2: 244
    Day 2 242
    Day 3 239
    Day 6 238 Off HCG Days 12-20 ran out.
    Day 20 237 RE Started 5000HCG (Round 2 Day 1)
    Day 22 234 new low Day 3
    Day 5 234

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoinette View Post
    Aloha ChristiF:

    You know I think that is what I did not do is select the "forum signatures"
    then when you loose weight do you have to adjust it somehow? I will try LilySlim

    I am still trying to get the nerve up to mix and get the correct amount to inject.
    I think that a round is 23 days right? And if I mix the dry Corion 2000 with the 3ml is that going to give me enough for the first round? Or is that just enough for 7 days and then the other two bottles that came in my order makes up the other 14 days?
    I cleaned out my insulin bottle which is 10 ml which will be big enough and it lasts me 15 days at 40units twice a day.
    I don't get when they talk about 200iu = .40 or 40 on an insulin syringe which is the one I am using when I take 40 units on my insulin syringe? So which do I take of the HCG? It seems like lots of people are confused about this in the beginning huh?

    Thank you so very very much
    Antoinette
    Yes, you have to log in to LilySlim and adjust your weight and recopy a new link and paste to your signature but it's really not that difficult.

    I am very new to the subq injections. I have only mixed once and have been injecting for a week. I went with the instructions on the first page of this forum. I didn't use a mixing vial. I had a 10 cc/ml bottle of bact. water and drew up 2 cc's, injected it into the 5,000iu Hucog powder vial, rolled it around until it was mixed well, drew it up and injected it back into my water vial. I hope that makes sense. I keep mine in the refrigerator and draw up 30 units a day which is equal to 150iu's. I think 200 sounds high. They say if you inject too much, the more hungry you will be. I'm doing well with this dosage and have lost 10 pounds as of today, one week from when I started phase 2. I also ordered b12 and have a friend who is a nurse and is giving me an im injection once a week.
    I was very nervous, also. Just keep asking questions, reading and researching until you feel comfortable that you have the correct mixing dose for what you have purchased. Please ask the ones on this site that have been around a long time. I did! I'm only telling you how I mixed mine. Good luck!
    P.S. I think 23 days is too short from what I have read. They say, do at least 28 days of injections and stay on phase 2 for 72 hours after the last injection before moving on to phase 3. Some people go 40 days or more.

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    Hmmm, like ChristiF I didn't use a mixing vial. Well, kinda.

    Here's what I did: I had 5000iu of hcg and a 30cc bottle of bac water. I took 10cc out of the water and got rid of it, then took 1cc out and mixed it with the hcg. I then put the hcg into the remaining 20cc bac water and mixed it. Then I drew out the mixture and put it into two mixing bottles I had. (they were little 10cc bottles). So...I have 5000iu in 20ccs. I intend to take 175iu (.70) because I'm doing subq injections. Whew!

    So, I am on the right track? Did I do okay with the mixing? Help?

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    Hi I have a question on bacteriostatic water. I received one 30 ml container, which has a rubber seal on the top that I punctured with the needle to get the liquid out. It seems that the maker of the injecting kit I bought is expecting me to use this same bottle of bacteriostatic water in 25 days when I mix my other 5000 iu's, however I keep reading that the water is only good for 30 days after opening. So is the vial now "open" since I punctured it with a needle, or is it still ok to use the rest of the water at day 25 or 30? The seal is intact except for 3 punctures with the mixing needle and I have refridgerated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakinapook View Post
    Hi I have a question on bacteriostatic water. I received one 30 ml container, which has a rubber seal on the top that I punctured with the needle to get the liquid out. It seems that the maker of the injecting kit I bought is expecting me to use this same bottle of bacteriostatic water in 25 days when I mix my other 5000 iu's, however I keep reading that the water is only good for 30 days after opening. So is the vial now "open" since I punctured it with a needle, or is it still ok to use the rest of the water at day 25 or 30? The seal is intact except for 3 punctures with the mixing needle and I have refridgerated it.
    I read a post by Grammy saying that you should not reuse the same bottle due to a risk of infection from possible bacteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmMama View Post
    Hmmm, like ChristiF I didn't use a mixing vial. Well, kinda.

    Here's what I did: I had 5000iu of hcg and a 30cc bottle of bac water. I took 10cc out of the water and got rid of it, then took 1cc out and mixed it with the hcg. I then put the hcg into the remaining 20cc bac water and mixed it. Then I drew out the mixture and put it into two mixing bottles I had. (they were little 10cc bottles). So...I have 5000iu in 20ccs. I intend to take 175iu (.70) because I'm doing subq injections. Whew!

    So, I am on the right track? Did I do okay with the mixing? Help?
    The mixing sounds right but I have read that 175iu's may be too high of a dose to start with. I was told to start with 150 and with the way you've mixed your hcg, would be .6cc. I'm going by what I have read on this forum, information from asking senior members and from Grammy's website. There is a link on her posts and she has many. Try the forum for Grammy's groupies or http://www.colleencoble.com/extras/hcg-protocol/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoinette View Post
    Aloha ChristiF:

    You know I think that is what I did not do is select the "forum signatures"
    then when you loose weight do you have to adjust it somehow? I will try LilySlim

    I am still trying to get the nerve up to mix and get the correct amount to inject.
    I think that a round is 23 days right? And if I mix the dry Corion 2000 with the 3ml is that going to give me enough for the first round? Or is that just enough for 7 days and then the other two bottles that came in my order makes up the other 14 days?
    I cleaned out my insulin bottle which is 10 ml which will be big enough and it lasts me 15 days at 40units twice a day.
    I don't get when they talk about 200iu = .40 or 40 on an insulin syringe which is the one I am using when I take 40 units on my insulin syringe? So which do I take of the HCG? It seems like lots of people are confused about this in the beginning huh?

    Thank you so very very much
    Antoinette
    I know a sent you a reply to this but wanted to add this. This is a message that Grammy sent me when I had a question similar to yours about mixing.

    "Any of the hcg brands work well, Christi. I use hucog but corion is very good as well. You will need a sterile vial also unless you buy 2000 iu vials. If you get those, you can just add bac water to them, a total of 4 cc. That saves a step. You'll need 4 2000 iu vials for a long round. Happy losing!"

    Personally, I would try starting with 150iu's. So after mixing like Grammy says, you would inject .30 or 30 on an insulin syringe.

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    I think the confusion comes from hcg coming in the 2,000, 5,000 and 10,000 iu vials and some mix each with different amounts of bact. water and then can't figure out what a daily dose should be. Adding to that, people talk about cc/ml or units. I wish I had all the answers but thankfully there are people here that can help us figure it out. You just have to ask and read the forums.
    I can tell you that a cc and a ml are the same and that an insulin syringe holds 1 cc/ml and a tb syringe holds 1cc/ml. So, for example, .5 of a cc/ml and 50units are the same thing... half of 1 cc/ml. An insulin syringe would say 50 and a tb syringe would say .5. I started with tb syringes and was confused so I switched to insulin syringes. I inject 30 units a day which is 150 iu's because I mixed my 5,000hcg with 10ml/cc's of bact. water. Is this as clear as mud? LOL
    I would use the mixing chart on the first page of this forum or the one Grammy has on her website. I'm sure there are other great mixing charts but those are what I went by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristiF View Post
    I read a post by Grammy saying that you should not reuse the same bottle due to a risk of infection from possible bacteria.
    Yeah, I don't think I have ever seen that as a reason not to use the whole bottle of bacteriostatic water. I don't see how you could infect the water with bacteria unless you didn't use sanitary practices in removing the water in the first place, you wipe the top of the bottle with alcohol before inserting your sterile needle. I have read on this forum that the water goes bad after 30 or so days from being opened. I am just going to post this for Grammy and hope she answers.

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