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Thread: Which weight do you calculate your losses from??

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    I am going from my beginning weight, before the load as does that change if I gain a pound or two during the P2? No - so when I first step on the scale the morning I take my first injection, that is where I go from. Also I don't worry with it one way or the other except as a barometer as to how I am doing on the diet - I want to get down to a weight I feel comfortable at and feel like I look good at, regardless of what the recommended body weight might be or what the scale says. I started this journey at over 270 pounds and lost a lot simply changing to eating decent food (translation, no food commercially prepared and picked up through a window!) - getting off of sodas (diet or otherwise), etc.. Got down to 160+ in less than a year and then decided I needed help and started with the Hcg as it made sense to me to a great degree. I am on a second round now and hopefully will make my goal soon and feel pretty good about keeping it off as I didn't do bad during the six weeks in between the rounds. I actually lost during my first 'load' as I got ill after the first day and couldn't really gorge at all but gained on this second round gorge but expected it and just put it down as part of the 'diet' and if I want to be able to say 'how much I lost' it will be calculated from (overall) the 270 and for the HCG part, from my starting weight the morning of the first injection. I am new to the forum and have been reading posts with great interest and will continue to and am looking for answers to a couple of questions and if I don't find them, will post and hopefully get input from all y'all!!

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    Pre-loading should be the starting weight. You are just bloated and water weight and stuff in your digestive system is not fat. I am pretty sure when people say they want to lose weight they mean fat. I track my body fat percentage. Day 0 I was 186.6 18.8% bodyfat (35.1 lbs of fat in my body). My Post loading weight was 193. Today I am 180 17% bodyfat (30.6 lb of fat). Depending on which way I look at it and when my starting weight is I coudl say I lost 13 pounds but in reality I lose 4.5 lbs of fat and 2.1 lbs of water weight. I was back to my starting weigh on day 4 (VLCD2) so I doubt the gain from loading was anything stored in my body fat reserves.
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    Funny.... the longer this post goes on, the easier it is to accept both ways, for everyone's reasoning behind it. The most interesting part is that it is still almost a 50/50 split.

    The only reason why it kinda bugs me that people use the post-load weight (even though it's recommended by P&I too), is because I feel like it makes people believe that they lost some CRAZY numbers in their first week. I know that if I wasn't gorging myself, I wouldn't gain that weight... but at the same time, I think allot of people have recently dieted prior to starting HCG, and probably depleted their healthy fat stores, which needed to be replenished before they began.

    I'm not sure there is a right/wrong answer to this one, but it's interesting to hear everyone's reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenAgain View Post
    Is there an official answer to this question? ... or is it one of those chicken/egg questions? LOL

    Which weight do you calculate your losses from?? Your START weight?... or your highest weight AFTER your 2 days of Loading?

    Some people seem to post about 10 pound losses... but gained 5 pounds during their load, so wouldn't that be considered a 5 pound loss... not a 10 pound loss? If not, I think it could discourage new people when they see others losing 2-3 times what they lost.

    Which way is right?? ... or is there a "right" way??

    Please vote above... and thanks in advance for participating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenAgain View Post
    Wow.... so far, 4 votes and it's a 50/50 split. That's scary. What do the mods & long-timers think about this??

    When we are all jumping for joy about huge results, or whimpering about slow progress, shouldn't we all be using the same measuring tool? Personally.... I have always counted from the day I started taking the HCG, but if that's not correct, than I have lost more than I thought, if you add in the extra load weight. ***confused***
    I wanted to use the after load weight, but my boyfriend so kindly pointed out that loading was part of the diet, so I really shouldn't add what I gained. I should report what I lost since I started the hcg. I relented and changed my ticker! I do now think that is the way to do it.

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    I think you should count the load weight. You gained it - you lost it - it counts. I don't think anyone should get discouraged if they aren't losing as much as someone else. We are all made differently, we all gain differently and we all lose differently. I use to get discouraged when a friend would lose 10 pounds and me only 3 on the same diet. Some people carry water weight and I didn't so I never lost as much that first week. On this diet I think it will depened on how much you have to lose and how much body fat you have. Someone like me with 120 pounds to lose can't compare with someone with 30 pounds to lose. I should lose more simply because I have more weight. And definitely more fat! I'm loving this diet - and proud of everyone for just having the courage and dedication to do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitchermom View Post
    I think you should count the load weight. You gained it - you lost it - it counts. I don't think anyone should get discouraged if they aren't losing as much as someone else. We are all made differently, we all gain differently and we all lose differently. I use to get discouraged when a friend would lose 10 pounds and me only 3 on the same diet. Some people carry water weight and I didn't so I never lost as much that first week. On this diet I think it will depened on how much you have to lose and how much body fat you have. Someone like me with 120 pounds to lose can't compare with someone with 30 pounds to lose. I should lose more simply because I have more weight. And definitely more fat! I'm loving this diet - and proud of everyone for just having the courage and dedication to do it!

    I agree 100% that we should not compare our results to others, but it's in our nature to do it, especially when trying something new to us, because we always want to know if we are doing things correctly. The only way for us to know is by comparing our results to others to see if we have similiar results to people doing the same thing.

    I'm thrilled to cheer someone on who has lost 10 pounds in their first week, whether they gained 5 pounds on their load or 2 pounds on their load... or whether they used their start weight or their load weight to calculate it from. I'm excited to cheer someone on who lost 4 pounds in their first week. Losing weight is a struggle for most of us, or we wouldn't be here in the first place.

    My only concern on this topic is that newbies could get disappointed and discouraged to continue the VLCD if they only lose 5 pounds in during Week #1, and hear about others who have lost 10 pounds in Week #1, because that person gained/lost and extra 5 pounds from their load. Does that make any sense??

    Either way... no matter what way we all choose to use, I think it's something that every newbie should understand from the start, so they don't get discouraged. We are all here to encourage each other and make this path as easy as possible for all those who are doing it with and after us.... right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbi View Post
    So if you gain 10 pounds loading don't have to lose those pounds too? I mean they don't just vanish, they're not imaginary pounds. Count them.
    Technically yes, but there is no way that 10 lbs has been stored on your body as fat by the time you lose it. And say you started at 170, gained 10 lbs during loading, then lost 10 lbs within the first 2 days and gave up on the diet. Would you still tell people you lost 10 lbs? You wouldn't look like you lost 10 lbs... your clothes wouldn't fit differently... Or say you temporarily gain 2 lbs in the middle of P2, do you count that 2 lbs again as weight lost because technically that weight was on your body again?

    I get what everyone is saying, but to me it logically does not make sense.

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    When we talk about the average weight loss (.5 to.75/day for women), we're talking about weight loss from the morning of vlcd 1. We do that because that's how Dr. S. counted the weight loss. so when you have a question about your losses, please tell us from your post-load weight. we frequently have people complain that they haven't lost anything the first 4 days, then we find out they gained 5# loading and lost those 5# in the first 5 days. you gained it, you have to lose it.

    BUT- when i tell other people how much i've lost in a round, i use my "net" loss- which is from day one of hcg. if i wouldn't have loaded, i wouldn't have gained that loading weight. so if a program requires me to gain before i lose, i'm not going to "claim" my post-load weight. i think it's pretty ridiculous to tell people that you lost 10# in a week when you had to gain 5# in order to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    When we talk about the average weight loss (.5 to.75/day for women), we're talking about weight loss from the morning of vlcd 1. We do that because that's how Dr. S. counted the weight loss. so when you report your losses here, do it that way. we frequently have people complain that they haven't lost anything the first 4 days, then we find out they gained 5# loading and lost those 5# in the first 5 days. you gained it, you have to lose it.

    BUT- when i tell other people how much i've lost in a round, i use my "net" loss- which is from day one of hcg. if i wouldn't have loaded, i wouldn't have gained that loading weight. so if a program requires me to gain before i lose, i'm not going to "claim" my post-load weight. i think it's pretty ridiculous to tell people that you lost 10# in a week when you had to gain 5# in order to do that.

    Well said! I just prefer to talk (and track) my "net loss" since that is what I would discuss with anyone who wasn't doing HCG. As "dedicated" pointed out, every time you gain/lose DURING the process, (whether from cheats, TOM, too much sodium, etc...), you don't keep adding those pounds to your losses again, so to me, "net loss" is the only way that it makes sense.

    This is just my opinion... and clearly the opposite of Dr. S. His way makes most people's weight loss statistics, (and his studies), seem more appealing though. We're all out to market ourselves and our programs... and choosing to use the post-load weights made his scientific studies look as good as they could. Praise God that Dr. S program REALLY WORKS!! That's what counts anyway!!

    If he were alive today, I'd debate it with him myself... just because it doesn't make sense to anyone, except people on HCG.
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    i just realized i made it sound like you should only post your post-load loss total on the forum and i sure didn't mean that! (i edited it) I just meant we need to know what your post-load loss is if you're questioning whether you're losing enough weight or not.

    i totally agree with driven's comments. otherwise i'd have to tell people that my total weight loss is somewhere around 1000# (in my lifetime).
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