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## View Poll Results: Which weight do YOU calculate your TOTAL WEIGHT LOSS from?

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1. Ok..... Lets see if I got this right. So, If my Day one hcg and day one load is 300 lbs I start my ticker at 300 lbs. Then I gain 10 lbs loading. I don't change the ticker I leave it at 300. That was my weight the first morning I started the diet. Then the first week I lose 12 lbs. My net loss would be 2 and that is what would be reported as my loss resulting in a .285/day average for the first week. For the second week I lose 7lbs even resulting in a net loss of 9lbs and .643/day average.
Sound right or am I all messed up?

2. feisty- for the purpose of comparing your losses to the average, you'd consider your losses for that first week to be 12#. But if anyone gains more than about 4# with loading, there are almost certainly some significant food sensitivities in play because you're retaining a ton of water. to gain 10# of actual weight, you'd have to eat 35,000 calories more than what you're burning in those 2 days- physically impossible! i keep track of both figures, but the .5 to .75 average loss per day figure we give people is based on using your post-load weight (weight on the morning of your first vlcd).

3. Originally Posted by mgsondance
feisty- for the purpose of comparing your losses to the average, you'd consider your losses for that first week to be 12#. But if anyone gains more than about 4# with loading, there are almost certainly some significant food sensitivities in play because you're retaining a ton of water. to gain 10# of actual weight, you'd have to eat 35,000 calories more than what you're burning in those 2 days- physically impossible! i keep track of both figures, but the .5 to .75 average loss per day figure we give people is based on using your post-load weight (weight on the morning of your first vlcd).
Oh I'm confused then..... My first day weight at 317.4 is not right?, that was the weight I was on Load/hcg day 1. I've just been calculating total loss from day one to now for net loss.

4. Originally Posted by Feisty
Oh I'm confused then..... My first day weight at 317.4 is not right?, that was the weight I was on Load/hcg day 1. I've just been calculating total loss from day one to now for net loss.
Fiesty... there really isn't a right or wrong way. That's what this whole post has been about. It's kinda like the chicken/egg question. There is no real answer.

There are two schools of thought... basically, "net" loss and "total" loss.

NET LOSS: Calculate your starting weight as the weight you were on the day of your first injection.

If you were 300 pounds on the day that you took your first dose of HCG, gained 5 pounds on your load, and currently weigh 275, then your NET loss would be 25 pounds (300-275), and your TOTAL loss would be 30 pounds (305-275).

Does that make sense?

Keep in mind that people interchange the words "net" and "total" all the time... so you really have no idea how much people actually lost, or didn't lose, unless you specifically ask them what weight they are using in their own calculations as their start weight.

For what it's worth, Dr. S used the "total loss" method I described above.

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On the other hand, I wonder... What is the most that anyone has gained on a load? In 3 rounds, I have never gained more than 2 pounds, and they were gone within the first day of VLCD. Almost everyone else I have seen gains 0-5 pounds and it's usually gone within the first 2 days of VLCD.

5. i couldn't have said that better myself.

6. Hmmmmm How bout I look at 86 days of vlcd and 79.4 lbs lost... gives me .923/day loss period.

7. wow

8. Wow yes but you know that'll be blown to hell and back with the next round including quitting smoking. sigh.

9. Originally Posted by dedicated
Technically yes, but there is no way that 10 lbs has been stored on your body as fat by the time you lose it. And say you started at 170, gained 10 lbs during loading, then lost 10 lbs within the first 2 days and gave up on the diet. Would you still tell people you lost 10 lbs? You wouldn't look like you lost 10 lbs... your clothes wouldn't fit differently... Or say you temporarily gain 2 lbs in the middle of P2, do you count that 2 lbs again as weight lost because technically that weight was on your body again?

I get what everyone is saying, but to me it logically does not make sense.
Well technically most everything you lose in your first week is just water weight...so do you count that then? It's not stored as "fat"

10. Mine stayed the same. Even though I totally and completely pigged both days until my stomach was protruding ALL day, I still didn't gain any weight, So, I technically can click either choice and be totally honest. LOL.

11. You know, my first round I lost while loading....not so this round, but this time I am doing the pellets. It makes more sense to go with your preload, as the weight gains with loading will be reversed anyway. When you are calculating weight loss you go with your starting and ending weight, ignoring the ups and downs in the process.

This gain while loading is killing me even though its only two pounds.

12. I always started with my start weight.

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