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    Keto Didnít Work...back to HCG

    Hi fam! It’s been years since I was on this forum, but I’m baaaaack!!

    I did a couple very successful rounds of HCG but gained weight when I went off some ADHD medicine and tried a new diet (high in carbs). Since then, I’ve been trying to take about 15-20 pounds off. I tried IIFYM (if it fits your macros) macro tracking, I tried going vegan, I tried straightforward clean eating, I tried Isagenix meal replacement shakes, and finally, I tried keto - the seemingly magical diet that works for EVERYONE...except me, apparently. (In this time, I also tried a round of HCG that didn’t yield any results, but it was NOT the original protocol, it was through a clinic and they suggested higher calories. This was the first time I used real hcg injections instead of homeopathic HCG, so I was still super surprised it didn’t work, even with higher calories.)

    I started keto about 2 years ago and even with extremely consistent exercise (strength, cardio, yoga, everything) I haven’t been able to lose anything. (I’ve also had several DEXA scans so I know it’s not muscle gain either.) I actually DID lose a handful of pounds when I first started keto, but then I sustained 2nd degree burns on my chest (long story short - a blender full of boiling water exploded) and since that day, keto stopped working for weight loss for me. I do however feel great in Ketosis (but I felt great before too) - I have normal, consistent energy and sleep very well, so I don’t think I have adrenal or thyroid issues.

    I had a bunch of testing done and as it turns out, my hormones are WHACKED. My body produces extremely little progesterone and testosterone. I was ABOUT to do a round of HCG in October but my Doc said that it probably wouldn’t yield good results because of this. She started me on bio-identical hormones (progesterone and testosterone) in the hopes that I’d finally start to lose weight...but here we are, 3 months later, and WOMP WOMP...no results. She said that if it’s not working by now, there’s no point in continuing. Also, she said it looks like I’m pre-menopausal (even though I’m only 36) so that may be a big part of the problem.

    Anyhow, I’m trying a round of HCG in the hopes that it’s not futile! I know a lot of people transition into keto after HCG (I mean, that’s basically what Phase 3 is...but with a few less carbs, higher in fat). ANYWAY, if and when P2 works for me, I’m going to try a standard P3 transition instead.

    I have a cruise to the Bahamas in early March, so I’m doing a short round BUT if I see decent results in this short round, I’m basically going to treat the cruise as a planned interruption for one week and then do another 3 weeks of P2.

    If anyone has experienced anything like this (no results with keto, messed up hormones, etc) or knows about hormones and has any advice, I’d REALLY appreciate it!! I’m praying that HCG “resets” my hormones, including leptin and ghrelin signals.

    QUICK NOTE: I’m using hcg injections from NuImage and am doing the original protocol, but with slightly more protein, no grissini/melba, staying around 550 cal or under and I’m working out (because I’ve been working out 6-7 days a week consistently for a very long time).

    2/5-2/6 Loading 152.3-153.2 (clean loading)
    2/7 VLCD 1 153.2
    2/8 VLCD 2 153.2 (proformer pilates + massage)
    2/9 VLCD 3 152.1 (megaformer pilates)
    2/10 VLCD 4 150.8 (20 min run + proformer pilates)


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    Keto didn't work for me, and it's hcg that ALWAYS works. You should continue the bioidentical hormones. Your hormones situation will just continue to get worse if you don't, and it's hard to maintain weight loss when they are totally crazy. Have you had your thyroid checked properly? Usually with wacky hormones, your thyroid is tanked too. You need to check reverse T3, free T3, and free T4. TSH is useless but it's what doctors always want to check. If your doctor won't do the right ones, you can do them yourself for about $65 through ultalabs.com. Make sure you're not taking too high of a dose of the hcg though. NuImage starts you on 200 iu which is way too high for most. Start at 150 iu and then go down to 125 if you have to. Many have to. Not losing on shots is often traced to a dose too high.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grammy1952 View Post
    Keto didn't work for me, and it's hcg that ALWAYS works. You should continue the bioidentical hormones. Your hormones situation will just continue to get worse if you don't, and it's hard to maintain weight loss when they are totally crazy. Have you had your thyroid checked properly? Usually with wacky hormones, your thyroid is tanked too. You need to check reverse T3, free T3, and free T4. TSH is useless but it's what doctors always want to check. If your doctor won't do the right ones, you can do them yourself for about $65 through ultalabs.com. Make sure you're not taking too high of a dose of the hcg though. NuImage starts you on 200 iu which is way too high for most. Start at 150 iu and then go down to 125 if you have to. Many have to. Not losing on shots is often traced to a dose too high.

    Good luck!
    Thanks Grammy! Glad to see youíre still here! Honestly I think Iíve gotten fluffier with the hormones and I donít think my Doc is on top of it. I want to do straight HCG to see if it helps to reset things for me. I have had my thyroid tested (full panel) several times, my numbers are spot on middle of the road. I also doubt itís thyroid because my energy hasnít been affected at all - I have great energy and sleep great (keto or otherwise). It seems like the classic thyroid symptoms donít apply to me.

    Keto DID get rid of panic attacks that I was having though, so Iíll have to see how I do once I add carbs/fruit back in.


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    Keto Didnít Work...back to HCG

    2/5-2/6 Loading 152.3-153.2 (clean loading)
    2/7 VLCD 1 153.2
    2/8 VLCD 2 153.2 (proformer pilates + massage)
    2/9 VLCD 3 152.1 (megaformer pilates)
    2/10 VLCD 4 150.8 (20 min run + proformer pilates)
    2/11 VLCD 5 150.6
    2/12 VLCD 6 150.6

    I took yesterday off the gym to see if it would help...nope. :/


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    If you are taking that high dose (200iu) that NuImage recommends, that could be your problem.

    Also massage is not allowed during P2 according to the protocol, as it is thought to disturb the working of the HCG in your subcutaneous fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    If you are taking that high dose (200iu) that NuImage recommends, that could be your problem.

    Also massage is not allowed during P2 according to the protocol, as it is thought to disturb the working of the HCG in your subcutaneous fat.
    Nope - I started with 150 and I'm down to 140 now.
    The only non OP thing I do is not worry about lotions and such. I don't use lotion anyway, but I can't really skip the massages - my therapist is doing active release to fix some mobility issues I've been having. I actually lost the day after the massage!


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    Oh good! I was afraid you were doing their high doses!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grammy1952 View Post
    Oh good! I was afraid you were doing their high doses!
    Thanks! I posted my thyroid numbers in another post, I'd love your thoughts - I know you're not a doctor, but since you're so knowledgeable, I'd appreciate your insight!


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    What other post was it? I'll take a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grammy1952 View Post
    What other post was it? I'll take a look.
    Thanks! Itís under Phase 3 information - Iíll bump it to the top for you now!


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    Ugh - in phase 2 and forgot about massage. Thanks for reminder now I have to break my stall

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