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    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvKats View Post
    Lynne, starchy, sugary carbs result in water retention in everyone. I'm not sure of the mechanism. That's why if you load on carbs instead of fatty proteins, and fats in general, you will gain more weight on your load days. Also, if you don't go back to very many carbs in your diet, you won't lose as fast during the first week of p2, because you don't have the water weight to shed. Gains of 2 lbs or more in o3 and p4 tend to be due to ingesting starchy carbs. The steak day releases the water, resulting in the weight drop.
    Thanks for the explanation. So conversely, if you load with a bunch of fats/proteins and see a gain, would it be real fat and therefore harder to lose? And if you finish HCG and go back to eating starches and sugars, you are going to gain back the initial water loss. . .which we can hopefully get rid of with a steak day. Do you know if water and inflammation are the same thing? The reason I ask is that I have gained 5 lbs from a pizza night, and if I do a steak day I have only dropped under a lb. I'm thinking maybe the steak days do not help inflammation, only water, but I don't know if that is the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamaicaJN View Post
    My guess is was the cookies. I think it's not so much the fat as the sugar and flour. That is what you're really fighting. P3 seems to be the same as Atkins Induction. I made "pesce in acqua pazza" yesterday for dinner, which translates to "fish in crazy water". Basically, it's fish poached in a base of water, tomatoes, garlic and parsley. Also grilled some zucchini tossed with garlic, lemon juice, rice vinegar and mint. I'm pretty strict on calorie count but I have gone rogue with bell pepper and zucchini.

    I dropped another two pounds overnight. I really push the water. I think I had 4 to 5 liters yesterday.

    Joe
    I would think it was the cookies if the tastes were not so small, but it still may have been that. Dr S does say a single almond can stall you and the cookie bits did have pecans, and they were very rich.

    Congrats on your 2 lbs!

    Quote Originally Posted by LolaNoodle View Post
    Up +.2 today. No cheats. Drinking water. Sticking to protocol. Weighing my food (even fruits & veggies). I have been at 135 for three days now... and now up. This is only the beginning of week 2 so I am super frustrated with this. I can only hope it's like last round where I would see a slight gain before a big loss.
    Don't stress Lola. What happened to weighing once a week? Stress causes weight gain. This is not even an official stall yet, and a .2 gain isn't even a real gain. Grammy has a stall every round. Did you have a big loss before the slow down? I know I did one time, where I lost 3 lbs in one day, but then I was up and down within that three lbs for the next 3 days, and on the fourth day I got to "keep" the loss. Good luck, for certain you will be dropping again soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by LolaNoodle View Post
    I am... I take a multi vitamin, potassium, biotin (hair loss in past rounds), calcium/magnesium. BMs are normal. No excessive exercising, besides walking the dogs every other day for about 20 mins.

    Every few days I put a TBSP of milk in my coffee. But IDK about coconut oil... I have never really gone off protocol besides scallops and broccoli occasionally.... oh and also 1/2 TBSP of Rapunzel cocoa powder every other day. I'm scared to try coconut oil b/c of the fat If no losses tomorrow, I may give it a shot though!
    I tried coconut oil on P2 once, and the only thing it did was make me poop (which is a weight loss), but it only worked for one day. Then the next couple days I didn't lose because of the fats. Maybe a teaspoon is not enough to cause a problem though.

    AFM: I had been down only .2, but went back to bed and was down .8 total. So now I am rested AND slimmer! lol

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    Ugh. 4 day TOM stall. No change.


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    VLCD6 and I am down 7 lbs total as of today including 4lbs load weight. Was 157, goal is between 140-145. Getting closer! I've found this round that strawberries slow my losses. The onion powder was not the issue at all, I think it was the strawberries all along. I haven't ate them for the past 2 days and have lost both days. I seem to do good with apples so I'll stick with those. Funny how every round is different. Ive also ate some cocoa crack the past 2 days, i know its NOP. Was craving sweet so made some. I've also felt pretty low on energy this round despite taking my supplements. I'm sure that will get better after the first week.

    It's a beautiful day here. Sunny and in the 60's. It's been a weird week, snow storm one day then 60's the next. Mother nature has been very bipolar the past week lol. Only had to work 11 hrs last night instead of 12 due to daylight savings love this time of year!

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    Well, I'm up today by .8. I ate my normal meals so I'm not sure what that's about unless its my body somehow rebelling against the 5.2lbs in 3 days I recently experienced this late in the protocol. I'm not going to worry about, I'm ahead of the game/losses given I had a week stall during TOM so I'll take it. Since the whoosh fairy decided to skip my house I hope she made a pass thru for everyone else.
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    I am so happy for your weight loss Jennifer! You rock girl!!! Yes this Missouri weather is bipolar as well!!!! One day it is flip-flops and the next day its snow boots....lol!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer16nurse View Post
    VLCD6 and I am down 7 lbs total as of today including 4lbs load weight. Was 157, goal is between 140-145. Getting closer! I've found this round that strawberries slow my losses. The onion powder was not the issue at all, I think it was the strawberries all along. I haven't ate them for the past 2 days and have lost both days. I seem to do good with apples so I'll stick with those. Funny how every round is different. Ive also ate some cocoa crack the past 2 days, i know its NOP. Was craving sweet so made some. I've also felt pretty low on energy this round despite taking my supplements. I'm sure that will get better after the first week.

    It's a beautiful day here. Sunny and in the 60's. It's been a weird week, snow storm one day then 60's the next. Mother nature has been very bipolar the past week lol. Only had to work 11 hrs last night instead of 12 due to daylight savings love this time of year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna Jane View Post
    I am so happy for your weight loss Jennifer! You rock girl!!! Yes this Missouri weather is bipolar as well!!!! One day it is flip-flops and the next day its snow boots....lol!!
    Wow! What I would do for a flip flop day! Lol


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    VCLD23 4/3 202.6
    VCLD26 4/5 199.8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna Jane View Post
    I am so happy for your weight loss Jennifer! You rock girl!!! Yes this Missouri weather is bipolar as well!!!! One day it is flip-flops and the next day its snow boots....lol!!
    Thank you, im hoping to get to goal as soon as possible so i can end this lol. I am just burnt out on p2 foods.

    March is considered our snowiest month of the year. We've had enough snow in my opinion so I hope we have an early spring. I'll take rain any day but no more snow.

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    I'm with you Jennifer...VLCD13, seriously doubting my ability to get thru 24 more days of this.......i have no hunger at all and am just going thru the motions at this point. I keep going back and forth with myself what an acceptable LIW would be for me....what number would i be ok with on day VLCD27 (30 injections) and call it a round and stop or should i go a few more days?? Going into week 3 so if losses continue as they have been it may come to fruition, oh how that would be a happy dance for sure!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer16nurse View Post
    Thank you, im hoping to get to goal as soon as possible so i can end this lol. I am just burnt out on p2 foods.


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    Hi all! I woke up to a 1 lb loss which I was surprised about because I felt really bloated this morning for some reason. I had dreams (nightmares?) last night that I couldn't stop cheating and they seemed so real! Was glad to wake up and realize that I've stayed POP It was good though, I think it was my subconcious telling me that cheating isn't worth it (I had a rough day with cravings yesterday.)

    Starting week 2 today, down 8. Definitely my slowest weight loss round, but maybe I'll just be consistent and not stall? Wishful thinking probably but you never know. I took my multi yesterday and it really helped with the cravings and the hunger today. I'm also not as dizzy. I'll add it back into my rotation for sure. It was a beautiful day in Colorado today so the kids and I went bike riding for a couple of hours. I am beat! That is definitely not a P2 activity!! But life can't stop just because moms on a diet either Have a good one all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshFocused View Post
    Wow! What I would do for a flip flop day! Lol


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    flip flops? Oh yeah, I vaguely remember what those are, LOL! My area has the dubious distinction of setting the all time record for the lowest high temp on a March day....I think it was a high of only 16 that day. I've been living in my ugg boots. Sigh.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynneR View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. So conversely, if you load with a bunch of fats/proteins and see a gain, would it be real fat and therefore harder to lose? And if you finish HCG and go back to eating starches and sugars, you are going to gain back the initial water loss. . .which we can hopefully get rid of with a steak day. Do you know if water and inflammation are the same thing? The reason I ask is that I have gained 5 lbs from a pizza night, and if I do a steak day I have only dropped under a lb. I'm thinking maybe the steak days do not help inflammation, only water, but I don't know if that is ...lol
    no, I don't think it's necessarily real fat or harder to lose. Often it's because of combining starch and fat....a bad combo as well. There are severL factors involved. After hcg, you will gain some water weight. It's inevitable. I really don't know where plain water retention and inflammation begin and end. Personally, I think the more refined the carb, the more inflammation it causes because it's foreign to our guts. And I agree about the steak days....they have an immediate diuretic effect....but they don't do much for any inflammation. That takes several more days to subside. I don't think Simmeons had to deal with as many inflammatory food issues in his day. Food products were much simpler and more real back then.
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    Okay we were just ta abo
    about this on the not newbie thread
    i forget about the combos
    like when have alcohol, not to have fat cuz bod process alc first
    on bf pc again jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez oh lets me type that

    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvKats View Post
    no, I don't think it's necessarily real fat or harder to lose. Often it's because of combining starch and fat....a bad combo as well. There are severL factors involved. After hcg, you will gain some water weight. It's inevitable. I really don't know where plain water retention and inflammation begin and end. Personally, I think the more refined the carb, the more inflammation it causes because it's foreign to our guts. And I agree about the steak days....they have an immediate diuretic effect....but they don't do much for any inflammation. That takes several more days to subside. I don't think Simmeons had to deal with as many inflammatory food issues in his day. Food products were much simpler and more real back then.
    Doing the best that I can , from where I am. All is well

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