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    Pressure to lose the weight--who can relate?

    HI,

    I am on my 5th round of hcg. I feel like I am on a merry go round, bc IM having to do this every year now. I do well through the year, and this time, the holidays were my downfall. I knew better, but I indulged bc I planned to do a round in January. I weighed this am, and Im the heaviest I have ever been, although Im aware that my 2.5 loading days are part of my current weight. I am 137.6, I need to lose 20 lbs, which seems like a lofty goal bc Im just getting started and Im feeling overwhelmed by this task. I feel some depression from my weight, and I just wanted some tips to stay focused and lose this weight. My food regimen will consist of


    chicken airfryer 3.5 oz for lunch & dinner
    Veggies--i have shredded lettuce but I need some salad dressings, any thoughts?
    drinks--water, green tea; im not sure about coffee bc I need creamer and Im afraid dairy may cause a stall; I have used heavy cream in the past and I had a gain but not sure if it was that or something else.
    Apples-- I despise them, but what other fruit can I eat?

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    To deal with the repeat pitfall of the holidays, each year is going to take some mental adjustment. One thing that surprised me about the HCG diet is how enjoyable the plain, meager meals could be. This was a revelation to me, but it only happened when I determined to cook everything fresh, and make the most of the allowed herbs and spices. The Foreman grill made the biggest difference for me. I would cook both protein and veggies on it and would wear out at least one of them each round. The airfrier is another excellent way to prepare fresh foods.

    Even now, I dress my salads with what I've used in P2, because it is just so tasty. What happened gradually, as I worked my way through my rounds is that I found that I was happiest and most stable when eating real foods, and making sure I ate of them till satisfied whenever hungry. The end of restricting also brought the end of binging. Amazing to me was that my issue was not emotional eating, or boredom/celebration binging...it was a pattern of not getting enough nutrition when the body was needing it. After a time of this restorative eating, I found I no longer crave things or enjoy overeating. It doesn't happen quickly, but healthy choices build on each other over time, and stops the binge/purge cycle. I've come to believe that for most of us, this cycle is something created by periods of restriction (dieting or fasting), not by some weakness in character, will power or control of emotions.

    My salad dressing for P2 was always: red wine vinegar, chopped fresh cilantro, pink salt and freshly cracked black pepper. If you are a sweet & sour girl, you can add a bit of stevia to sweeten it up, but for me, I found the sweetness of the red wine vinegar to be sweet enough. Brand matters, so find one that tastes good to you. I think Progresso is the best, but Pompeian is pretty good as well. The protocol allows vinegar but doesn't specify any particular type. My thinking is that in 1950's Italy, red wine vinegar would have been a common choice. But if you want to play it super safe, apple cider vinegar would be a fine substitute.

    The protocol allows for 1 tablespoon of milk. This can be whole milk. There is nothing in the protocol that says it has to be fat-free milk. That one T. milk is pretty good in that first cup of morning coffee. Could it be that might work for you?

    The four fruits allowed in P2 are apple, orange, handful of strawberries and half a grapefruit. I like to buy the softball sized pink grapefruits and eat the whole thing for my fruit. It is good broiled and warm, too. Basically the portion is about a cup of fruit. I sometimes used my T of milk with a T. cocoa powder, vanilla, sweetener and pink salt to make a dip for the strawberries.
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    Are eating the whole grapefruit or 1/2? Some grapefruits are pretty large, and sweeter than expected.

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    Dear Ncnightowl...
    Sorry to find you at this point
    I find the heading of your post a bit disconcerting maybe because of how you phrased is

    Who exactly are pressuring you to lose weight?

    One thing I have learned from life is that I need to make my life choices for myself and no one else...I have some girlfriendswho are big and gorjyss because they embrace who they are inside and out... yet they understand my ‘obsession (to a degree) that for health reasons i feel the need to drop my weight

    I feel losing weight is a gift you give yourself... and that way you fo value it more long term... doing something to meet the approval if someone else fades and will not give you the drive to keep it off...

    But also... i think we often put do much emphasis on P2.... where the true magic and hard work is in P3 and P4... locking it in is where the magic is at ... and it took me several years and rounds and messing up after P2 to finally put my focus on P3 and P4 this time around ... the idea is to loss the weight and lock it in with correct stabilisation and management

    I wish you well on your round ... while I am waiting yo start s new round i will be following your progress

    Interestingly enough I think I remember your name from 2014/2015 am I correct?
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Sept '20 - First round since 2015!
    Wk 1= -4.2/9.24 |wk 2= -1.3/2.86 |Wk 3= -1.4/3.08 |Wk 4= -1.3/2.86 |Wk 5= -1/2.2 |Week 6= -.8/.44 |Total loss 10kg/ 22lbs- LIW 178.4
    P3 end week 1 - Up 2.43 (Steak day16 Nov) | week 2 - on LIW | week 3 - up .66 | week 4 on LIW - 9 weeks after LIW 180.4

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    Hi Flo,

    The pressure Im speaking of is the really related to getting this protocol right and losing the weight I need to lose. This protocol is so long, and when I have a bad round it feels like I wasted 3 months of intense for nothing. It is a stressful regimen for me, and P3 seems to be where my weight goes wrong/up. This is the heaviest I have ever been, and thats depressing, so I need to get this right. I actually dont have much of an appetite, I can eat the meat and not really need the veggies. Im rambling, but Im at the beginning of this round so I feel like I have to climb Mt everest.

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    If its a small grapefruit you can eat the whole thing. A large one, you use use half as your portion. If I was going to do half a grapefruit, I'd buy those giant ones. ^_^ How sweet it is doesn't matter. The protocol is not about that. The protocol is not about being in ketosis, for instance. It takes some mental discipline to separate all our diet "knowlege" from other plans and just do the protocol as instructed, but its worth the effort. It really can be very peaceful if you just relax into it.

    The point is that getting an exact portion not all that critical. According to the protocol, you can eat a small apple or a large one...you just can't eat two at the same meal. So that tells me the quantity on the other fruits doesn't have to be exact either. Just have a good portion and don't stress over it. Unless your fruit portion takes you over your 500 calories, then you can cut it back some. Same for veggies. Don't restrict to a cup. Go by what is a good serving that doesn't take you over your calorie level for the day. There is a huge difference in volume to calories between onion and lettuce for instance. So you wouldn't eat 2 cups of onions for a serving, but you certain could eat 2 cups of spinach or lettuce.
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    Wow, great examples of food portions, I will focus less on portion and more on protocol. I want to try grapefruit bc Im hating apples right now lol. I also want to know if Pelligrino mineral sparkling water acceptable for P2, the only ingredient is carbonated water.

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    Answered your other post, but short answer is yes, if its mineral water.
    At goal since 2015. \(ᵔᴥᵔ)/ Total HCG loss: 77# [5'5" 210-133] Maintenance strategies overview

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    Hi girl... just remember that the protocol is written the way it is because it works, dont try to reinvent the boat..
    By not eating what is set out in protocol you may actually jeopardise your P3/stabilization.... stick to protocol... even if you lose less weight than what you would like to... but if you stick to protocol you will lose.... but it is important to understand that P3 is crucial.... as an HCG round only really finish 6 weeks after LIW... P2 is only the into into the magic and P2 is just the prelude....

    I can say this completely unjudgementally as this was me in previous rounds... once the weight dropped, I threw in the towel... this last round I went in KNOWING that hcg will do the trick in P2 regardless of inflamation and infections.... but only IF I stick to protocol.... but my focus was P3 and Subsequently P4....

    I have done several rounds in 2014 and 2015 snd never really did a full-on P3 AND P4 and could never understand why I could not keep my losses.... this round was my first I followed Protocol and although i hovered around my upper window for quite a bit due to infections, an accident, pending surgery, annual holiday, Christmas and new year.... i am now 2 month in after LIW and regardless of my inflammation, I am slightly above LIW....and for the first time I truly understand the value of ‘locking it in’... the longer my break.... the linger I can lock in my ‘new normal’ .... keeping it off requires a mind shift

    I wish you all the best on your journey.... I will hover around till I am allowed go start again after surgery and to be here for friends i have made along the way.... will keep an eye out for you ***
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    Sept '20 - First round since 2015!
    Wk 1= -4.2/9.24 |wk 2= -1.3/2.86 |Wk 3= -1.4/3.08 |Wk 4= -1.3/2.86 |Wk 5= -1/2.2 |Week 6= -.8/.44 |Total loss 10kg/ 22lbs- LIW 178.4
    P3 end week 1 - Up 2.43 (Steak day16 Nov) | week 2 - on LIW | week 3 - up .66 | week 4 on LIW - 9 weeks after LIW 180.4

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    ..."The Foreman grill made the biggest difference for me. I would cook both protein and veggies on it and would wear out at least one of them each round."

    That made me chuckle. Wearing out the Foreman - you were working it!

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    Thanks Flo,

    You hit the nail on the head, I do pretty well in P2, but P3 is a struggle for me. It starts off well for the 1st week when I just increase my meat portion by doubling it, eating skin on chicken, and eating salads with walden dressing or make my own dressing(olive oil, lemon juice,red wine vinegar); I dont snack, no more fruit, and drink more water. I feel like im eating alot then, bc I eat when hungry, but I still get the slow wt gain, 0.6 here, 0.4 there, or 1 lb. I didnt have to do alot of steak days bc the gains were never over 2 lbs, and they dont work for me after about 2 wks into P3. Im on Day 4, so I hope for a 18-20 lb loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ncnightowl View Post
    Thanks Flo,

    You hit the nail on the head, I do pretty well in P2, but P3 is a struggle for me. It starts off well for the 1st week when I just increase my meat portion by doubling it, eating skin on chicken, and eating salads with walden dressing or make my own dressing(olive oil, lemon juice,red wine vinegar); I dont snack, no more fruit, and drink more water. I feel like im eating alot then, bc I eat when hungry, but I still get the slow wt gain, 0.6 here, 0.4 there, or 1 lb. I didnt have to do alot of steak days bc the gains were never over 2 lbs, and they dont work for me after about 2 wks into P3. Im on Day 4, so I hope for a 18-20 lb loss.
    I do not give up fruit on p3 it is not a keto diet And doing a steak day to me makes no sense since you said u never went over two lbs you are not supposed to try to lose weight on P3 I think it is a mistake You will vary up or down but the idea is to maintain within the two lb range i have never done a steak day in multiple rounds. I think it is easier to follow the plan. Just my experience
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