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    May have found the SECRET TO P3 - YEAH!!

    A friend of mine (the super high fat loader as I call her) just finished her third round P3 successfully for the first time ever with NO STEAK DAYS REQUIRED! According to her, the only thing she did differently this time was waited until the final week to add extra fats, but still ate a lot high protein, veggies, and fruits the first two weeks. This was done by keeping meticulous notes on what she had eaten the days her weight went up. She says her weight only went up .2 at the most, but mainly dropped back down .2-.6 on a regular basis even though she was eating not-so-lean grilled or roasted meats with only their natural fat, but no added butters or oils. On the days she had more than 1-2 TBSP. of HWC or added butter or oils, she went up by a pound.

    Has anyone else tracked their gains and losses related to the fat levels, and experienced anything similar?

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    I stabilized great my last round with no correction days but I added in fats right away and I ate lots of them. The only thing I did was to carefully introduce dairy and nuts. I started with no dairy or nuts, then would add one in after 3 days. Never did I limit or pay attention to fats other than making sure I ate plenty of them.

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    I think everyone is different I added fats right away however gradually increased calories as i wasnt hungry first few days Ended up eating about 1600-1800 cal per day and stabilized well
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    Could it be that the meats she says she's eating (dark meat chicken, chuck roasts and steaks, duck) are already fatty enough, and adding more fat to vegetables (olive oil, butter, coconut oil) could cause her fat level to be too high - thereby causing the big jumps?

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    I've not generally had problems in P3. I add hwc on first day and throughout P3, lessening in P4 when I start adding things in. Peanut butter whacked me several times before I decided it really and truly is my enemy. In first week of P3, I have full fat Greek yogurt, bacon, fried chicken wings, buttered eggs with bacon and prime steak with the fat. Ohhhhhh I can't wait for P3. 😁



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    Quote Originally Posted by roselanoue View Post
    I think everyone is different I added fats right away however gradually increased calories as i wasnt hungry first few days Ended up eating about 1600-1800 cal per day and stabilized well
    I tracked my calories last P3 and I was eating 2000-2200 calories per day! Crazy! With no gains!

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    I added Full Fat cottage cheese, hwc, avocados, and mayonnaise the first day of my first P3 - basically because I didn't know not to. Pork rinds and swiss cheese the second day, and butter on day 3. I did fine and actually lost another pound by the end of the week. I tried PB in week 2 and found out it did NOT like me. After that, I waited to add any other nuts until P4. I'm able to eat Mac nuts, cashews and pecans without problems. I'm quite happy about that. I'm also thrilled to be able to eat 1400 - 1700 calories with no gains! That's the real icing on the cake. If I have to give up PB for that, so be it!

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    I have always pretty much dove straight in with everything I want to eat, sans sugar and starches,until full. However I don't like nuts so I avoid nuts. The one time I had almonds I gained.I don't like protein shakes therefore I don't eat protein shakes. the one time I tried Jay Rob powder I blew up 3 pounds. I had to flush for like four days. I certainly do not search to add excess fat to my diet. I have seen people go completely overboard.

    I pretty much figured out if I don't like something, it causes a problem. I.e. Nuts, cottage cheese, yogurt, replacement bars, coconut oil and anything new and trendy food wise.I also hate peanut butter so there you go. The only weird anomaly is I gain on yellow cheese not white cheese. I have always stabilize pretty well, it's just after a year or so I get back into bad habits.

    Honestly I think the most important thing is to keep the carbs/starches and sugar down. I'm going to use a Carb Manager this time to make sure I'm getting minimal.

    I'm going to going to P3 for two weeks and then cycle back to P2 for seven days, I've never done this before but I guess I just load on the fat in P3.
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    P2W2- down 4.4
    End of Week Two weight: 153.4
    P2W3- down 2.4
    End of Week weight: 151.0
    Two week PI, One week drops. 149.0

    Done for now

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    Hi !! I am just starting P4 and did great in P3 with keto--but more protein than the pure keto people eat...
    I am ending P3 2.5 lbs less than my LDW
    No cravings! NO steak days. did not do nuts and little dairy. I just LOVE how I feel--light, energetic, focused
    Now want to add back some grains---very slowly--not cos I need to or miss them but beleive that healthy grains should be part of a healthy diet...
    Anyway, I am thrilled....something feels different this time...other P3's I was dying to get back to grains and this time..well, we'll take it easy...
    Good luck to everyone on P3!

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    Bubblebubby!!!!!!! Congrats on a great P3, I'm in it for one more day and will probably continue and then try FMD for a month. I'm finishing about 1.8 above LDW.
    So happy to see you here. Good luck in P4
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebubby View Post
    Hi !! I am just starting P4 and did great in P3 with keto--but more protein than the pure keto people eat...
    I am ending P3 2.5 lbs less than my LDW
    No cravings! NO steak days. did not do nuts and little dairy. I just LOVE how I feel--light, energetic, focused
    Now want to add back some grains---very slowly--not cos I need to or miss them but beleive that healthy grains should be part of a healthy diet...
    Anyway, I am thrilled....something feels different this time...other P3's I was dying to get back to grains and this time..well, we'll take it easy...
    Good luck to everyone on P3!
    So I've heard alot of good things about doing a low carb/keto diet for the first 2-3 weeks in P3 to help you stabilize, did you follow any particular plan or did you just stay off the carbs? I am suppose to start my P3 in 3 more days and I want to make sure I do it correctly as last time I gained all the weight back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saucyk View Post
    So I've heard alot of good things about doing a low carb/keto diet for the first 2-3 weeks in P3 to help you stabilize, did you follow any particular plan or did you just stay off the carbs? I am suppose to start my P3 in 3 more days and I want to make sure I do it correctly as last time I gained all the weight back.
    If you stick to protein and fats and low carb veggies and a cpl fruits per day you should stabilize fine Just no starches, no sugars, no cheats ...
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