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    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    Hi Gypsy!

    Unfortunately, mayonnaise often has sugar in it. If you're making your own ranch, make sure the mayo you use doesn't have sugar in it.
    DUKE's mayo. No sugar. I thought everybody already knew that.
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    Hi Gypsy. Ummm....uh...."Duke"...? Never ever heard of it. It's not a mainstream brand. And no, not everybody "knows that."

    Where in the US are you? And what store did you get your Duke's mayonnaise from? That'd really be helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyDancer View Post
    DUKE's mayo. No sugar. I thought everybody already knew that.
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Duke's can be found in about half the country--the eastern and southern half and as far west as Texas. You can also order it from their website. I never even noticed that there's no sugar in it until I did this diet. It doesn't taste like anything is missing which makes me wonder why so many other companies feel like they have to sweeten mayo.
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    Duke's isn't in the Midwest, then? Crap.

    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyDancer View Post
    Duke's can be found in about half the country--the eastern and southern half and as far west as Texas. You can also order it from their website. I never even noticed that there's no sugar in it until I did this diet. It doesn't taste like anything is missing which makes me wonder why so many other companies feel like they have to sweeten mayo.
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Dukes Is good I get it at Walmart

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    Duke's isn't in the Midwest, then? Crap.
    I think you can find it in some midwestern states. I'm pretty sure that my daughter in Michigan could get Duke's. And I think it's available in Illinois and Wisconsin.
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    I confused, I starting phase 3 next week.... How many calories can I have?
    The naturopath who put me on this said I can increase my protein to 150 grams and have 2 veggies on my plate but the diet stays the same ,, don't be adding

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    Stephanie, here's what I'd recommend, based on my experience and the experience of others:

    PROTEIN LIMIT
    First, what's your LIW/LDW? Whatever it is, your weight equivalent in grams of COOKED protein, plus 20% of it more, is your protein limit/ceiling. If you go above 120% of your LIW/LDW in grams of cooked protein you will likely gain. Don't EVER go above this, even if you increase calories or carbs. And again, it's COOKED protein grams. Weigh your food AFTER cooking, and you'll know how many calories you're ACTUALLY consuming; the "raw" foods in a calorie tracker are always higher than cooked, and inaccurate for other reasons. So weigh your food after cooking, and use a tracker. I use this one: http://MyNetDiaryPro.com ...others use this one: http://wwwFitDay.com ...both are accurate. Another tracker, "My Fitness Pal" is decent....but relies on foods mainly entered in by users. These other two trackers use the government database that lists foods that have been tested in a lab for nutrition/macronutrient data. So those two are highly accurate and dependable (the MyNetDiary and FitDay ones).

    CALORIES AND ACCURACY
    Here's the calorie counter I use for normal eating: http://www.cancer.org/healthy/toolsa...ter-calculator <-- when first entering P3, use the "sedentary" setting for calories for the first few days. After you've stabilized for 4 days in a row, use the same calculator and choose the "lightly active" setting. Then work up to it by 20% each day of the difference between the two calorie amounts (between the the "sedentary" and the "lightly active calorie amounts). So over the course of 5 days, you're slooowwwlllyyy working up to your eventual ideal calorie limit. Example: say the difference between the two calorie amounts is 500 calories. You'd add in 100 calories MORE to your diet each day, until you arrived at the new calorie total.

    CARBS VERSUS FAT: WHICH TO ADD MORE OF?
    In my experience, I've seen fats help people LOSE weight, carbs help people GAIN weight. This is primarily due to the fact that dietary fat is very hard to digest, so the body has to work extra hard to break it down (thus burning calories and secreting LOTS of digestive enzymes in the process). Dietary fat also helps the thyroid out; it stimulates it the most out of any macronutrient (and macronutrients mean "fat, carbs, protein"). Protein stimulates it less than fat, and carbs stimulate the thyroid THE LEAST. This reality is also one of the reasons -- the primary reason -- why so many of us get constipated in Phase 2. We have less digestive enzymes due to eating no fat (or microscopic amounts at the most). Fiber on its own does not "clean you out" -- it works that way when it brings something else to the table (either probiotics occurring naturally, as with sauerkraut, or...through eating saturated/dietary fats elsewhere in your diet). So, if you do want to get back to a LDW/LIW at some point, eating more fat, staying within your protein limit/ceiling, and reducing carbs are all good things to do. Carbs also spike blood sugar (more true with 'fast carbs' such as white flour and so forth than veggies, but nonetheless all carbs do it to a certain extent). So, just be aware of what each macronutrient does to your body and you'll be more aware of how to add in which foods.

    AVOID GOITROGENS
    Unless you're consuming lots of saturated fats (from animals) or avocado fat (fat from, well, just the avocado itself), any goitrogen you eat will inhibit thyroid function. Eating those fats STIMULATE the thyroid, so it balances out any goitrogenic effect of a goitrogen. Now, you may be asking: "what the HECK is a goitrogen??" it's a class of foods that inhibit thyroid function. Some do this more than others; SOY IS THE WORST. Soy also paralyzes the villi in the intestinal tract the more soy you eat. There are even researchers who believe soy is a culprit in the appearance of Irritable Bowel Syndrome in society that seems to have happened during the last few years. I won't blather on about soy here, but....try to avoid soy if you can. Post on goitrogens and what they are is here, along with a list of foods that often are culprits in gains and inflammatory responses: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16719

    IF YOU GAIN, DO THIS
    If you have any issues with gaining, you'll need to do a correction day (I strongly prefer the Chicken Thigh Day, as it's effective and doesn't cause a gain), then also a strategy AFTER the correction day to hold the loss. That's called a Post-Correction Day Strategy (PCDS). But, only think of that if you gain; you wouldn't need to know about it unless you do. NOTE: if you DO need to do a PCDS, you'll use an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT calculator then, but don't worry about that now. You can read all about the CTD and the PCDS on my blog (just click the little number in my avatar, the number listed after "Blog Entries").

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie67 View Post
    I confused, I starting phase 3 next week.... How many calories can I have?
    The naturopath who put me on this said I can increase my protein to 150 grams and have 2 veggies on my plate but the diet stays the same ,, don't be adding
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie67 View Post
    I confused, I starting phase 3 next week.... How many calories can I have?
    The naturopath who put me on this said I can increase my protein to 150 grams and have 2 veggies on my plate but the diet stays the same ,, don't be adding
    Stephanie, alot of posters here agree with your naturopath, basically. THey say just keep eating the same P2 foods (at least for a time), but increase the calories substantially (or don't count them), thought I think they mean to skip the grissini and fruits due to the sugar and starch. When I did P3, I immediately added heavy whipping cream for my coffee, and eggs, and coconut oil, and a variety of meats. I also added cream cheese very early on. The idea of sticking to the P2 foods in large quantity, is to allow you to make sure you will not gain on them before you add anything else. I don't think your doc intends for you to stick with those foods throughout p3, probably just until your next visit or for 3 to 5 days, something like that. You are allowed fats in P3, and you really need them to get your calories up. Maybe ask your doc about it. HTH

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    ok so i need help i went above 2 lb gain today and i thought i knew how a correction day worked but im looking at info and i may have messed up...i thought that u weigh and if over 2 lb gain u dont eat til dinner and then eat a big steak and wake up and gain is down... but other say u should eat all kinds of different things during the day like eggs, tuna, cheese, etc etc....so what do i do its dinner time and i have not eaten today so have a screwed up....please help asap im hungry

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    I have one more VLCD before starting P3. After reading all of the posts on here I'm a bit concerned. My doctor has me on a 1000 calorie plan for the next 30 days. Based on the following:

    Week 1 off hCG: Increase portions but only eat foods on the list
    Week 2 off hCG: It is ok to eat all meats, all fruit and all vegetables except potato
    Week 3 of hCG: Add nuts, eggs and dairy
    Week 4 of hCG: Add whole grains, flour, sugar, and potato in extreme moderation

    If I gain any weight during any of these weeks, I am supposed to go back to the prior weeks menu. They also told me during my transition meeting that I would continue to loose weight but at a slower rate.

    This is so different what what I have been reading here. I'm very confused.

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    Are you allowed peanut butter on P3? I'm confused about the whole concept. You can eat greasy foods? but you cant eat sugars and starches? Are sugar free candies allowed or anything that is sugar free? Also I read that heavy cream is better for your coffee than half and half? that just seems weird to me. You can have a greasy piece of fatty chicken but not ice cream? What are things that are fat that you are suppose to eat on P3? Ugh so confused

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