Thread: Phase 3 information

I'm confused after reading this sticky. If you only eat 800-1000 calories in your first week and never make it up to your maintenance calories until the 3rd week (and then maybe not until the end of the 3rd week, depending on what your maintenance calories will be), how do you not lose weight?

No peanut butter, because peanuts are NOT nuts... They're legumes, and legumes are forbidden. Legumes cause gains.

Also: check out what goitrogens are, and avoid them. I discuss it on my blog (click the "blog posts:" link in my avatar and see the posts with 'goitrogens' in their name).

Avoid all inflammatories as well in P3. Don't eat eggs, nuts, all things made from cow's milk (cheese, etc.) until P4. Dairy has sugar in it -- that's right, SUGAR -- so it qualifies as something to avoid in P3. Sugar in dairy is wrapped up in lactose, which when broken down, releases sugar. Lactaid milk is a good example of this; it's really sweet, because they broke it down (the lactose) for you.

Originally Posted by makemeskinny

Are you allowed peanut butter on P3? I'm confused about the whole concept. You can eat greasy foods? but you cant eat sugars and starches? Are sugar free candies allowed or anything that is sugar free? Also I read that heavy cream is better for your coffee than half and half? that just seems weird to me. You can have a greasy piece of fatty chicken but not ice cream? What are things that are fat that you are suppose to eat on P3? Ugh so confused

I'd love to recommend this guide to others, as I see it worked for you and that's great....but they allow eggs in P3, and other inflammatories, plus goitrogens such as soy (goitrogen is "thyroid inhibitor"...soy is THE WORST goitrogen due to its potency)......

Eggs are inflammatory culprits, and only a few people can handle them in P3 without gaining. Soy is bad no matter WHAT phase we're in, as it inhibits thyroid function and digestion consistently. Soy is also a culprit that is possibly responsible for the growing epidemic if Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS). This is due to the fact that it paralyzes the vili in the intestinal tract. The vili are the little finger-like extensions coming out from the walls of the intestines, and they help breakdown and absorb food. When they don't "wiggle" or do the breaking down or absorbing, we get digestive problems.

I find it incredibly ironic that the same people who make Activia -- Danone in France/Dannon in the US -- make a lot of soy-based foods. Perhaps they noticed the need for something to "help" offset the effects of soy after they ate their own product...

Yep, soy: the biggest cause of intestinal damage you never knew about! Sorry for the sarcasm; I could cite hundreds of studies where soy is implicated in damaging digestive health. These studies are NOT paid for by Monsanto. Monsanto, on the other hand -- the company that had the designation of soy changed from "unfit for human consumption" in the early 20th century to a "miracle food" as it's promoted now -- has funded thousands of studies that promote the "benefits" of soy.

Soy affects the body in so many, many negative ways (phytoestrogens, is a goitrogen, possible culprit of IBS, and more) it's incredible. Thing is, soy is SO CHEAP to produce, it makes money for all the businesses that include it in their products. Example: hear of that water, or that cereal, or that snack that has "10% protein!" in it? Ever wonder where that protein is coming from? Most likely, it's soy. Manufacturers LOVE soy because there's a huge return on investment for them because of it. It's terrible.

So, I'll get off the soapbox now. Just be on the lookout for all the things we never knew (consciously) were bad for us. Pay attention to how your body feels when it digests a food, and that's half the battle; know your body, and be aware of how it feels when you eat, and you'll be better off for it.

Originally Posted by Mfreeindeed

Hello all! Here's a link to a helpful list of P3 foods and when to add them in. I used this my first round and stabilized perfectly the first 3 weeks. I'm not able to eat wheat, gluten, etc so I had a few steak days in p4 but this list did help.
www.myhcgplus.com/m1_food_list.pdf
www.myhcgplus.com/m2guide.pdf

Hope this helps y'all as much as it helped me!!

Try to avoid eggs, broccoli, tomatoes (they're in salsa), and cheese from now on, okay?

I do not believe millet is great, because it is a HUGE goitrogen. I'll just post a link to the list here: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16719

Dairy...that's a no-no, so no milk.

Thing is: for P3, stop thinking of breakfast as a time to eat...breakfast food. WEIRD, I know! Eggs can come later, as can dairy, and all the other stuff that makes people gain in P3.

Originally Posted by MadCane

Well, I'll be crossing my fingers that the 2 eggs in my first p3 breakfast wont cause me problems, I had a 2 egg chicken ,broccoli, omelette with salsa and small sprinkle of cheese on it.
I guess I'll find out in the morning if I'm one of the ones ok with eggs, gosh I hope so.

My phone app says i can have puffed millet for breakfast, will a splash of non fat or 1% milk be ok even though we're not supposed to have dairy ?

So it's going to be a 1 or 2 skin on chicken thieghs or a ribeye with grilled onions for lunch.
and Cod fillets for dinner with ???? still working on that one

Eggs are usually the first thing people try and they are generally okay for the majority. That's not the case with cheese. I wouldn't add dairy now. I've seen so many problems with it that I'm starting to say not to add it the first week. and millet is NOT okay. It's grain. Milk is bad too. It's worse than cheese because of all the carbs in it. Fish is about the very best meat you can eat, both for health and for weight stabilization. And of course broccoli and any starch free veggie is fine.

Good luck!

Yes tomatoes are fine for P3. I would not touch cream cheese in P3. I've seen sooo many people gain and I have no idea why that is. I love that cauliflower pizza too! My fave. If you can find raw cheese, it's usually okay right away. And I wouldn't go back to P2 food only. You will find it hard to get in enough calories.