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    LOL You don't have to be that strict. You really need some carbs. Carbs aren't forbidden. You can have some fruit, berries in particular are good. And you could try some dairy after about a week. Most of us can do Greek yogurt too but wait about a week. And you can add in some nuts later too. You don't have to wait until P4. I worry when someone is TOO strict because going to totally no carb can mess up your thyroid. So don't depress it by being TOO strict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaclyn007 View Post
    So I can make spicy pulled pork and slaw! Yay!!
    recipe ?????
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    Phase 3 information

    I kindda just wing it when I cook lol but I add a canned chipotle some adobe, garlic onions, sofrito, tomato paste (if not a red based one) and an orange, or the juice and pulp, apple cider vinegar (could use a tbl spoon of concentrate to sub). Usually some other stuff. Easy on the chipotle if you don't like hot. A little goes a long way! Or use some smoked paprika and a can/jar of your fav salsa instead of the chipotle. Put it all in a crock pot And check back in a few hours. You can add anything to this to change the flavor, mustard, apple, peppers, rosemary, vinegars, horseradish, seasonings, taco mix, veggies, celery, cabbage... Whatever. Just throw it in with the pork shoulder. My slaw is one of 2 ways. I have a p2 version that is vinegar-y and spicy, and the classic creamy one.
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    thanks, i love puled bbq pork out of the crock pot, and when off this diet i love pulled pork tacos with the left overs and add pinapple.
    and this spicy pulled pork is right up my alley
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    Phase 3 information

    Oh hell ya! My fav FAV fav is a soft tortilla with pulled pork, onion jelly, mozzarella(or fontina) and goat cheese! Grilled. Omg good! Fiber one makes tortillas that are low net carb. They are yummy and I use them on p3. Onion jelly is made by stonewall kitchen(I'm sure it has sugar in it, I know sounds odd but trust me on this one). Omfg just is not enough to say how yum it is!! If you LOVE pulled pork try this. (when you are able that is... Pairs perfectly with a good margarita too.
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    Okay, so what DO you eat on Phase 3? Is there a list of foods anywhere?

    I just read that it is better to eat HIGH fat foods rather than LOW fat foods in Phase 3. Is this for real???

    I have put ON about 3-4 lb in the last week since I stopped Phase 2 and I don't know how to get rid of it without getting more drops. I have a function to go to in a week's time and need to lose it fast. It's my own fault I put it on because I lost all the diet paperwork -still can't find it - and so I decided that if I stick to a low cal diet I would be okay even without the drops. WRONG! Plus, I have been travelling a little and sometimes the easiest thing to grab was a muffin or bagel - the wrong foods.

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    You're not allowed to eat any starch or sugar. And when you go more than 2 pounds over your last day of hcg, you are to do a steak day. Read up over in the P3 forum. there's just too much to try to tell you. pounds and inches is free all over the internet. Read that too.
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    If I get hungry, what can I eat? More meat? I have apples and oranges here but they both have sugar, even though it is natural.

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    I have read and re-read this forum x2 . Newbie, R1P3D2. i am still confused about what to expect and how to optimise stabilizing in P3. Had 1240 calories mostly fat and protein and veggies . There was a post under P3 main forum suggesting 6-8 oz of protein each meal - that is like 180-240 gm each meal !!! This seems impossible, at least for a vegetarian. Would it even be safe? Ate quite a lot last evening LIW 116lbs up to 117 3rd day without HCG, 115.5 ths AM.
    Confused about safe ratio of carbs, proteins and fat . Greek yogurt, home made cheese( with almost 0 lactose) and Jay Robb whey protein has been my mainstay through P1 .
    Would black beans be okay for P3 ? They have a pretty high protein:carb ratio to most others. Please someone help me to optimize P3 . Also. I am confused about the kind of fat i have lost because it doesn't seem to have moved from my "problem" areas. Scared stiff to increase fat , i think i have lost more muscle than fat except from where there wasn't a lot to lose. I only wanted to lose 15 lbs and i am only 2 lbs short, not bad for a vegetarian, i think.

    Feeling rather scared and desperate , P2 was quite hard. Life w/o carbs is hard for a vegetarian , don't want to lose the gains i made or have to go through P2 again . ( esp when you have a family that relies on what you cook !)To cook and not eat is quite a torture after a few days.

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    Phase 3 information

    Eat LOTS. It's going to seem like you can't eat it all for a week or two. Try to effectively use fats to up your calories while eating variations of p2 foods. Cook eggs with olive oil and butter, add a veggie and some sour cream to make a breakfast burrito w/o the tortilla. Use fatty cuts of chicken. Put heavy cream in your coffee. Whip it up and put it on sugar free jello too add foods that are low in sugar and carbs, (do a google search for a list) eat beef with more fat, avacado's, salad dressings with more calories and no sugar. ( a tiny bit as an ingredient should not be bad if it's not the first ingredient, and its all you can find but try it and see.)Add a food a day, add cheeses, up your cal to 11times your weight aprox. As a goal. If you log your foods you can count your calories to make sure you are in range, then when you have the hang of it you don't have to log or count ( u can if it helps you) weigh in every day. There will be a little fluctuation. It's ok to see a pound up or down every day. Just not 3lbs every day. My LIW was 200.8 I usually weighed in at 201.2 no matter what I ate unless I didnt get enough water!!!! (it's harder when you have to eat all that food! Which is why fats work, they are a low volume high cal food to get you eating again. As you go you can eat more volume healthy foods and less fats to fill the calories as healthy living. By 15 days into p3 I was at 199.8 every day, and now in p4 I'm at about that every week. I weigh in 2-3 times a week, and revert to healthier choices if I see the scale up a bit. More times than not its down, but at a stable rate (0.5lbs a week or so. I'm honestly not trying... Just being healthy. I don't skip on rice if it's at dinner, but I don't over do it either 1/2 cup max) I have bread/starch once or twice a week. (i love pepperidge farm light wheat, 6net carbs a slice, and fiber one tortillas! 6 or 7 net carbs but oh so yummy) i've eaten pasta with no issues, and regular bread too but not frequently. I don't really add any sugar into my diet, but I don't really enjoy it all that much so no loss for me, but if I need something an Atkins bar works great. Low carb and 1g sugar. Hell if it keeps you from eating cake go for it! I try to always eat breakfast in p3 and 4. This way I get a jump on veggie calories for the day, and im not hungry. A few eggs, deli chicken or turkey or ham, a slice of cheese, and zucchini, and some hot pepper or onion. Cook. Eat. (add taco sauce and sour cream too yum) I eat lunch even if I'm not hungry. Usually a salad with avocado, tomato, chicken or deli meat and dressing. Dinner.. What ever I want- staying p3 friendly-ish. Oh and one day a week, usually sun (and more because I work double and don't sleep weekends) I eat whatever the f**# I want! Just make sure Monday I'm back on target! Remember I'm in p4 now!!! Down 30+lbs since starting round 1. Round 2 starts in January!
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    Started R1 Aug 2012
    Starting weight: 228.8 (no specific goal to loose, JUST LOOSE)
    LIW: 202.8
    Weight 12/13/12= 187
    R2 Jan 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janakidd View Post
    I have read and re-read this forum x2 . Newbie, R1P3D2. i am still confused about what to expect and how to optimise stabilizing in P3. Had 1240 calories mostly fat and protein and veggies . There was a post under P3 main forum suggesting 6-8 oz of protein each meal - that is like 180-240 gm each meal !!! This seems impossible, at least for a vegetarian. Would it even be safe? Ate quite a lot last evening LIW 116lbs up to 117 3rd day without HCG, 115.5 ths AM.
    Confused about safe ratio of carbs, proteins and fat . Greek yogurt, home made cheese( with almost 0 lactose) and Jay Robb whey protein has been my mainstay through P1 .
    Would black beans be okay for P3 ? They have a pretty high protein:carb ratio to most others. Please someone help me to optimize P3 . Also. I am confused about the kind of fat i have lost because it doesn't seem to have moved from my "problem" areas. Scared stiff to increase fat , i think i have lost more muscle than fat except from where there wasn't a lot to lose. I only wanted to lose 15 lbs and i am only 2 lbs short, not bad for a vegetarian, i think.

    Feeling rather scared and desperate , P2 was quite hard. Life w/o carbs is hard for a vegetarian , don't want to lose the gains i made or have to go through P2 again . ( esp when you have a family that relies on what you cook !)To cook and not eat is quite a torture after a few days.
    i would eat phase 3 foods only, cook with olive oil and coconut oil, and I would only add 1 new food, like cheese, eggs ect. every couple of days to ease into phase 3, adding all the new goodies to fast and to soon is not good, play it safe add new things slowly, don't rush, that way you it will be easier to see what may affect a gain.
    google the hcg phase 2 cookbook ( in PDF form), and download it, http://www.smartbodymd.com/HCG-ebook-final2.pdf
    its awesome and my wife and kids loved everything i've made out of it, especially now that i can add a few more veggies and olive oil or butter. But it has a ton of good info in it as well, benifits of spices, home made marinades, soups, phas 3 transition, desserts, chic, steak, fish recipies, on and on. I highly recomend it,
    I ware that book out even after rounds lots of good stuff, I promise. Sooooooooo happy I found that a year ago
    trust me on this!!!!!
    I am 5'8" 45 years old, Male
    R1 40 days on drops lost 55 lbs, Gained 10 back over 7 months
    R2 9/13/12 LIW 178 lost 18 lbs
    P3 start date Oct 9, 2012
    lost over 60 lbs since last Thanksgiving !!!!!!!

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