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    Hi StaceyLPK, I am in the same predicament you were in. My last shot was Friday 11/2 at 9am. I was thinking that tomorrow, Tuesday, would be my first day on P3. But after checking out the P3 forums, I see it's 72 hours after the last injection, which I think would mean I can start P3 today. I also am going thru a doctor, but his office is closed today. I know the chances of getting a reply today are really low, but I'm taking a chance anyway. What did you end up doing and also...how have you done on P3?? Thanks! Gina
    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyLPK View Post
    Hi there--I've been lurking in the forum for the past 5 weeks while I've been in P2. I've lost 27lbs in 37 days and I only have 3 days of HCG shots left. I canNOT wait to be into Phase 3! I plan to do another round after the holidays.

    Anyway, I have a quick question. The first post in this thread--and just about everything else I've read--specifically says that you discontinue the VLCD exactly 72 hours after your last injection. So by my math, if I give myself my last injection at 7am on Friday November 2, I will start P3 at 7am on Monday November 5. However....I have been doing the diet through at "program" locally where I meet with the program coordinator once a week, report in, get measured, see the doctor for pre- and post- evaluation, etc. The coordinator is insisting that I need to remain on the VLCD for 3 full days with no injections--so instead of starting P3 on Monday, she says I start Tuesday. I think she's wrong.

    Can anyone confirm when I should, in fact, start P3? Thanks.

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    All that we have learned about dieting is that breakfast is the most important meal of the day and sets your metabolism for the remainder of the day; it seems skipping breakfast would not be good. Does anyone know the scientific reasoning behind why skipping breakfast is good?
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    I know my post won't be popular, but I've been listening to that nonsense for years. Even as a kid I didn't want to eat breakfast b/c I wasn't hungry in the morning and it would make me super hungry all day long. It's only when I stopped listening to my body that I got into trouble.

    Fact is, everyone is different. I've seen studies saying you should eat breakfast, but I've also seen studies that say eating breakfast means you simply eat more calories, that it doesn't curb your appetite. And the Intermittent Fasting folks will tell you that skipping breakfast does not put you in starvation mode.

    I think the take home message is that when we lump everyone on the planet into the same box, we run into trouble. Maybe eating breakfast is great for most people, but not everyone. Just like not everyone should be vegetarian and not everyone should eat meat. We're all individual and when we stop listening to our body's signals and listen to the so-called experts, we run into trouble.

    Eat when you are hungry. It's as simple as that. Don't eat at a certain time because you're told to eat then. Don't eat a certain number of meals because you're told to do so. Just eat when your body tells you it's time to eat. We've lost touch with our hunger signals, with our bodies, and I personally believe it's one of the reasons we have so many psychological issues around food. Look at the number of people here who struggle when they aren't hungry? They're used to eating a certain number of meals per day and so they still psychologically crave food when not hungry.

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    Not sure where to post this, but here are my questions:
    Can we have Triscuit Thin Crisps in P3? Ingredients are "whole grain soft white winter wheat, soybean oil, salt"
    Can we have the "Shakeology" shakes/smoothies in P3? The "other ingredients" listed are "natural sweetener blend (Non-GMO fructose, Stevia), Cocoa powder, Xanthan gum, Chocolate powder, Guar gum, and Cinnamon powder". These shakes are gluten free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosemaryezell View Post
    Not sure where to post this, but here are my questions:
    Can we have Triscuit Thin Crisps in P3? Ingredients are "whole grain soft white winter wheat, soybean oil, salt"
    Can we have the "Shakeology" shakes/smoothies in P3? The "other ingredients" listed are "natural sweetener blend (Non-GMO fructose, Stevia), Cocoa powder, Xanthan gum, Chocolate powder, Guar gum, and Cinnamon powder". These shakes are gluten free.
    No to both. Starch and sugar are not allowed in P3. Fructose is sugar and wheat is starch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcollier View Post
    I know my post won't be popular, but I've been listening to that nonsense for years. Even as a kid I didn't want to eat breakfast b/c I wasn't hungry in the morning and it would make me super hungry all day long. It's only when I stopped listening to my body that I got into trouble.

    Fact is, everyone is different. I've seen studies saying you should eat breakfast, but I've also seen studies that say eating breakfast means you simply eat more calories, that it doesn't curb your appetite. And the Intermittent Fasting folks will tell you that skipping breakfast does not put you in starvation mode.

    I think the take home message is that when we lump everyone on the planet into the same box, we run into trouble. Maybe eating breakfast is great for most people, but not everyone. Just like not everyone should be vegetarian and not everyone should eat meat. We're all individual and when we stop listening to our body's signals and listen to the so-called experts, we run into trouble.

    Eat when you are hungry. It's as simple as that. Don't eat at a certain time because you're told to eat then. Don't eat a certain number of meals because you're told to do so. Just eat when your body tells you it's time to eat. We've lost touch with our hunger signals, with our bodies, and I personally believe it's one of the reasons we have so many psychological issues around food. Look at the number of people here who struggle when they aren't hungry? They're used to eating a certain number of meals per day and so they still psychologically crave food when not hungry.
    Popular or not, I think it's so true. This is one of the reasons why I didn't do the Leptin Reset thing. I am never that hungry in the mornings and I just could not see forcing myself to eat that much. I am really trying hard to make sure that I only eat when I feel hungry, but that I eat before I feel too hungry.

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    Humm... I try and eat breakfast, but only because I won't eat enough calories in the day if I don't. I just won't be hungry. These posts also got me thinking about protein. I can not do protein shakes/bars etc, except in the evening. The later the better. If I had a protein shake in the morning I wild do nothing but eat all day! They make me SO hungry! All this "curb your hunger with protein" crap.., ya not me! ;/ so I completely understand about breakfast! I wasn't a big breakfast person until I started HCG. I had to eat breakfast in p2 or I didn't have enough energy to get me through to lunch. So I got into the habit. Now in p3/4 It's not as important as long as I do breakfast OR lunch. Just not skip until an hour before dinner...like I had been!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebLew View Post
    I just started P3 and am using Kraft Ranch dressing....but sugar is the 4th on the list. Is this bad.....I am unable to find salad dressing without sugar. I live in Canada......any suggestions as I love salad with chicken in it. thanks
    I was looking at the dry package of ranch and noticed that it has no sugar... you just add buttermilk and mayonnaise... or whatever the instructions add. Try that

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    1/31~ 218.8
    2/1 ~ 218.0
    2/2 ~ 217
    2/3 ~ 216.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyDancer View Post
    DUKE's mayo. No sugar. I thought everybody already knew that.
    Making your own mayo is actually super easy as well... then there is no sugar... and then make your ranch and store in a mason jar Yum!


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    Starting over 4 years later...

    Round three four years after hitting goal weight. Gained over 50 in the last year from stress and poor eating. Ready to be rid of this weight again.

    Age:38
    26 day shots
    Started loading on 1/22 at 233.2
    Started VLCD 1/25 at 229.4
    1/30~ 219.8 Down 13.4 first week!
    1/31~ 218.8
    2/1 ~ 218.0
    2/2 ~ 217
    2/3 ~ 216.6
    2/4 ~ 215.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    No peanut butter, because peanuts are NOT nuts... They're legumes, and legumes are forbidden. Legumes cause gains.

    Also: check out what goitrogens are, and avoid them. I discuss it on my blog (click the "blog posts:" link in my avatar and see the posts with 'goitrogens' in their name).

    Avoid all inflammatories as well in P3. Don't eat eggs, nuts, all things made from cow's milk (cheese, etc.) until P4. Dairy has sugar in it -- that's right, SUGAR -- so it qualifies as something to avoid in P3. Sugar in dairy is wrapped up in lactose, which when broken down, releases sugar. Lactaid milk is a good example of this; it's really sweet, because they broke it down (the lactose) for you.
    What about almond butter.... there is an amazing machine at our coop that makes it straight from the almonds.... ???
    Starting over 4 years later...

    Round three four years after hitting goal weight. Gained over 50 in the last year from stress and poor eating. Ready to be rid of this weight again.

    Age:38
    26 day shots
    Started loading on 1/22 at 233.2
    Started VLCD 1/25 at 229.4
    1/30~ 219.8 Down 13.4 first week!
    1/31~ 218.8
    2/1 ~ 218.0
    2/2 ~ 217
    2/3 ~ 216.6
    2/4 ~ 215.8

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    Yes! Almond butter is yummy and amazing on p3. Just watch for added sugar in commercial versions

    I introduced eggs and dairy (heavy cream, butter, and cheese)and nuts (almonds, not a big peanut fan anyways) in the first week or so of p3. I eat those things all the time. I never would have been able to break anywhere near even 1500 calories had I not. I stabilized perfectly, lost an additional 10lbs (not trying) by p4 and never had to do a correction day. Weight is still off. Every pound. I know lactose is a form of sugar technically, but I do not think that the dr. had that in mind when he said no sugar no starch. Most add dairy the first week. Eggs can be sensitive to some, but you just have to try and see. Everyone is different.
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    Started R1 Aug 2012
    Starting weight: 228.8 (no specific goal to loose, JUST LOOSE)
    LIW: 202.8
    Weight 12/13/12= 187
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