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    Flo’s exciting journey towards Stabilization

    So here we are...p2 was the easy part
    This is where the hard part starts... for me it is not about what I eat but about my warped mental case against eating... eating ANYTHING....!!! In my mid 20s I managed to have the sense to spot the fact that I am on a path of distraction.... i realized I was on my way to full blown bulimia .... i may have dodged that bullet, but what followed was a life long battle of diet after diet.... fearing every bit of food that went into my mouth... this P3 and P4 is more to me than stabilizing the scale... it is about freeing myself from my fear of eating... to allow myself to eat big healthy meals....

    The scale may go up as I allow myself more freedom....but I will not be crippled by my fear....i am going to fo this... i will and I can!

    Bring it On!!!
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    Ok ... so started out this morning so to start this new part of the journey that I completely forget to weigh... duh!!

    After deciding not to do my Nescafe Cappuccino in lieu of of normal coffee with two tablespoons of cream....followed by breakfast which consisted of 1 fried egg, 2 rashers of streaky bacon, 1 small grilled tomato and grilled black mushroom with s teaspoon of sour cream.... for me this was a bit rich....and heavy... so heavy that I felt uncomfortably full... also realising that the calorie value of this meal was more than an entire day!!! The fat a much for me

    By 1:30 i had to do Something for lunch so I did a light meal... protein shake with 1 cup of almond milk and 80gms of Strawberries

    Snack time was 30gms of cashew nuts....yes Iknow cashews is s stumbling block for many but they are my favorite nuts

    For dinner I have not decided yet....but thinking of keeping it light with a biggish protein and a salad.... already have all the breakfast stuff my body needs to cope with

    A bit hard to keep track on MFP as I have so many new foods to load and does not work so smoothly on the phone... hoping i can make 1000 plus calories but will log it before bed time
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    Its not bad to have your biggest meal of the day at breakfast. In fact, for a time there was a popular P3 strategy based on the Leptin Reset, that recommended a huge breakfast. Like other things that have kind of a "fad" run, it dropped by the wayside after a time, but there is value in a big breakfast starting the day.

    Looks like you are off to a good start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo View Post
    Ok ... so started out this morning so to start this new part of the journey that I completely forget to weigh... duh!!

    After deciding not to do my Nescafe Cappuccino in lieu of of normal coffee with two tablespoons of cream....followed by breakfast which consisted of 1 fried egg, 2 rashers of streaky bacon, 1 small grilled tomato and grilled black mushroom with s teaspoon of sour cream.... for me this was a bit rich....and heavy... so heavy that I felt uncomfortably full... also realising that the calorie value of this meal was more than an entire day!!! The fat a much for me

    By 1:30 i had to do Something for lunch so I did a light meal... protein shake with 1 cup of almond milk and 80gms of Strawberries

    Snack time was 30gms of cashew nuts....yes Iknow cashews is s stumbling block for many but they are my favorite nuts

    For dinner I have not decided yet....but thinking of keeping it light with a biggish protein and a salad.... already have all the breakfast stuff my body needs to cope with

    A bit hard to keep track on MFP as I have so many new foods to load and does not work so smoothly on the phone... hoping i can make 1000 plus calories but will log it before bed time
    Hahaha that was me before loading and day 1 of P2!! My weight starts at Day 2of P2. Your meal would be right on par for me, ha!

    You may be just fine with cashews!
    My only concern for me would be eating many new foods at once since I used to have such inflammation going on. I should be fine now but I am still going to do only one at a time or I don't know which caused what. This was a huge part for me in my previous rounds.

    So excited for you to be here and enjoy foods!

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    Isn't it wonderful? Your food sounds great! If the brekkie left you uncomfortably full, my thought is to leave out either the cream in your coffee or the sour cream. Maybe both pushed you over the edge?

    YAAAAAAAy for day 1 of P3!! And healing yourself toward food freedom. You got this, girl!

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    Thanks ladies....
    Weekday breakfasts for me will most likely be a shake
    And I think i will rethink my fat thing.... i will not deliberately add cream or fry foods.... mentally that is not for me and physically it makes me ill.... i would rather just add nuts and cheeses going forward
    Lets see if the scale agrees
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    Still in bed after my early morning revealed the darkest purple on my keto test.... problem is just that the scale is not always as accommodating

    In hindsight my day 1 p3 was now good for me... if anything... a bit of a nightmare for me... the discomfort after breakfast was everything I hate about eating and My friend could not believe my discomfort after what I told her I ate
    It is not the size of the meal but the richness brought about by unnecessary fats
    I seldom experience hunger and the only tinge of want I experienced yesterday , was late afternoon when I had the nuts
    I would say that probably 50% of what I ate yesterday I would not have been able to stomach on a normal diet
    For health reasons I need to cut unnecessary animal fats and weigh up the fat vs protein ratio
    I think my fear of upping my calories made me eat unrealistically....

    Realistically...what does not work for me and cannot be part of my normal going forward are
    I do not fry foods in fats... so will continue with air frying and using non stick spray
    Creams only if part of a recipe and not the add on... fat vs protein ratio not sufficient to warrant the fat content
    P2 works fir me because if the structure so because if my lack if hunger i need to stick to the 3 meals with 2-3 snacks
    I focussed so much on upping calories which was easy to do with fats rather than healthier options
    If i must judge my overall day.... WRONG in every way possible.... I just dont FEEL it this morning so need to refocus
    I need to do P3 but I need to stay true to ME
    The ONE thing I know that is my big problem us not eating enough snd instead of focussing on that I focussed on the wrong foods and definitely not enough water... my bladder feels it this morning
    No matter what the scale says.....Back at my desk with more structure today focusing on healthy calories and protein and enough water
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
    Greetings from Sunny South Africa!
    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    As my gut told me.... Day 1 was not good...
    Up 700gm /1.5lbs from LIW.....
    And strangely enough having a bit of a tummy ache this morning

    OK looking at what the breakdown of a typical Keto diet is, I cant go that route
    It says 70% fat, 5 % carbs and 25% protein...... that amount of fat wont do it for me...

    So I am going to follow the structure of P2 but add breakfast, that way I do smaller portions a few times a day

    My breakfast consisted of
    Nescafe Cappucino - too high in Carbs will have to become a treat
    150gm Double cream plain Yogurt
    50gm Strawberries
    30gm scoop of Protein Powder

    Stomach feels more comfortable with that.... that brings my calories of Breakfast down by half of what it was yesterday, aiming for 1000 to 1200 calories today don't want to make it too high as I need to drop yesterdays disaster
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
    Greetings from Sunny South Africa!
    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo View Post
    Still in bed after my early morning revealed the darkest purple on my keto test.... problem is just that the scale is not always as accommodating

    In hindsight my day 1 p3 was now good for me... if anything... a bit of a nightmare for me... the discomfort after breakfast was everything I hate about eating and My friend could not believe my discomfort after what I told her I ate
    It is not the size of the meal but the richness brought about by unnecessary fats
    I seldom experience hunger and the only tinge of want I experienced yesterday , was late afternoon when I had the nuts
    I would say that probably 50% of what I ate yesterday I would not have been able to stomach on a normal diet
    For health reasons I need to cut unnecessary animal fats and weigh up the fat vs protein ratio
    I think my fear of upping my calories made me eat unrealistically....

    Realistically...what does not work for me and cannot be part of my normal going forward are
    I do not fry foods in fats... so will continue with air frying and using non stick spray
    Creams only if part of a recipe and not the add on... fat vs protein ratio not sufficient to warrant the fat content
    P2 works fir me because if the structure so because if my lack if hunger i need to stick to the 3 meals with 2-3 snacks
    I focussed so much on upping calories which was easy to do with fats rather than healthier options
    If i must judge my overall day.... WRONG in every way possible.... I just dont FEEL it this morning so need to refocus
    I need to do P3 but I need to stay true to ME
    The ONE thing I know that is my big problem us not eating enough snd instead of focussing on that I focussed on the wrong foods and definitely not enough water... my bladder feels it this morning
    No matter what the scale says.....Back at my desk with more structure today focusing on healthy calories and protein and enough water
    So sorry you are feeling Day 1 was a bust. I think it is wise to follow your body as you say! And I think none of us would feel well eating too much fat on the first day. Be kind to yourself. Lessons learned (for all, so thanks )

    Our stomachs also shrunk during P2 so remember that you will feel full eating even a little more than P2 meals the first couple of days potentially. Increasing calories and amounts is good to do slowly.

    You've got this though! I think the structure is the hardest indeed! It is one reason I first stick to the way I was eating but increasing portions a little and using fattier protein. So if I plan eggs, instead of one egg and three whites with tomato and green onions, it will just be 2-3 eggs with tomato and green onions. If I plan fish, it will never be white LOL Always salmon Ground beef is never 5% when not on P2. etc. My veggies will have some olive oil, or some butter depending, in moderate amounts. I add fat in the form of cream or sour cream later. This helps me with the structure since I am expanding P2. Then after a week or so I feel freer to add things and do things differently and I don't feel so lost.Then I go from there. Just a thought. You added a lot at once all things combined.

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    This will be no surprise coming from me, but I really encourage you to not beat yourself up--and remember that this is all a grand experiment. In my book, there is no failure, only learning. And you've come away from day 1 with great learning!

    Though I prefer not to eat frequently, I am discovering the same thing you are: that it's best to be prepared to eat smaller portions of food. As mrsstrong suggests, this may work best as a gradual process. And everyday will likely be new. The wisdom of not introducing too many new things at once strikes me as quite important as well. Though I'm definitely introducing allllll the veggies and different meats, I'm still staying away from the stuff I know causes me problems, like dairy and nuts. For now. Though I know nuts will soon be making their way into my recipes.

    Anyway, hang in there, Yvonne. Today is a new day. Every day is a new day to try again. Do your best not to fret too much, remember this is an experiment and you already carry so much wisdom about how to do P3 differently than in the past--as well as wisdom in the body, that body that still is very much healing. Wishing you ease and grace and self compassion today, friend!

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    Thanks Ladies....
    Miss M that is also why I encouraged you to report in daily and also when Mrs Strong starts it will give an interesting picture of how each journey is different but It will probably show interesting comparisons

    For today I set my Calories to 1000 with a split of 20% carbs 40% Fat and 40% Protein
    I did The Nescafe Cappucino.... going to limit this one till stable
    Breakfast was the 150Gm Double Cream plain Yogurt with the scoop of Protein and 50gm Strawberries
    Lunch: basically the same with 40gms of Blueberries

    So repeat this for dinner - it can work but, will be low on Protein.... but push my carbs over the imaginary 40gm ceiling
    So I am between a small steak or 150gm white fish both of these will keep my carbs down Steak more fat but also more fats and Protein.... steak will push calories slightly oven 1000 but fish will be lower....

    Either way, It can help as a stabilizer after yesterday.... it's not as if I am hungry or feeling starved, which is normal for me.... but maybe I still have some residual HCG in my system

    I know 1000 calories is not much, but as an emergency I think it is necessary and once the damage is sorted I can move on to 1200 and give it a few days to get used to it
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo View Post
    Thanks Ladies....
    Miss M that is also why I encouraged you to report in daily and also when Mrs Strong starts it will give an interesting picture of how each journey is different but It will probably show interesting comparisons
    So grateful to you for this recommendation. Having my own log is already so helpful. As is following each other and seeing our different approaches!

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