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    I must say...i take my hat off to married couples or families where only one person is on HCG
    It is hard having non protocol foods and smells in your face all the time

    I must say this new lady’s husband was with her when I told her about HCG and he sounded super excited that I could possibly help her... but I am rough on people about how strict they have to be on protocol... i really hope I can help her

    And then again... if I gave a protege i am more inspired to do better for myself... but I really want this lady to succeed
    I only weighed 109 kgs when i first crossed path with HCG... it was my miracle.... i have to pay it forward
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    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    Yvonne, I just think it's in your nature and in alignment with your life experience to be a profound helper. It's a lovely thing as long as it's not a detriment to yourself. I'm always a bit wary of my own recovery from a very codependent nature for much of my life. And I took to heart the profound advice I received from a Buddhist Master a few years ago: if they don't ask, it's meddling.

    Of course what we're largely talking about is when people say, "Wow, you've lost a lot of weight and look great. . . . What did you/are you doing?" Yvonne goes full throttle sharing about HCG with tips, tricks, and a goodie bag to get started. I say something like "I cut out sugar and starches and started walking in the morning in a fasted state." That generally gives people enough to get started if they want to make a change. But in my experience, most people are just making conversation and don't really want to make a change. If I felt someone were truly serious and open to dramatic steps toward real change that has the potential to last, I might reveal the HCG magic. But most people in my life already think I'm beyond disciplined and a little nuts when it comes to health/diet/exercise, etc. No need to give them more fuel for the fire and one more thing to question. For me it's private. Much like my spirituality--which I reveal when it seems appropriate.

    Just my two cents on the matter.

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    JGD, I halved the chocolate pudding recipe as you suggested and I'l be danged if that stuff isn't the bees' knees! I never doubted your suggestion in the least, but now I cannot thank you enough. It's basically the best chocolate mousse I've ever tasted. I don't know that it would achieve that amazing whipped texture had I not used my Vitamix (good lord what can't that thing do?!?), and I don't know that others would be as delighted as I am by the chocolate coconut flavor combo which happens to be my favorite when it comes to sweets, but yeah. I bookmarked it, found a few other recipes of hers to try, and now I'm researched the amazing resources on that website. She's a little off putting in her YouTube videos, IMHO, but I suspect she's got some really useful tools, so I'm all ears.

    I actually think I'm going to begin adding a few protein sparing days to see the outcome. No way am I on board with counting macros right now--too fussy for me and I'm in a good place overall, so no need--but I do think it's time to dial in some of my food choices. Yesterday I got a little nutty, pun intended, with some grain-free granola. Granola/cereal has always been my kryptonite, so I need to be careful anyway.

    But I really am trying out changing my behavior around old patterns. I know I'm an abstainer by nature, but I'm just wondering if there's a possibility that I could eat some of my favorites from time to time in moderation. I seem to have achieved that with chocolate, for example. You wouldn't believe the amount of the stuff I now have on hand and feel no impulse to gobble it all up in one go as I used to. This is food freedom for me.

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    Little check in for me. Still doing fine. Still making my way in this life we call P4 at goal. Still by and large enjoying it.

    One thing I'm doing is Mark Sisson's Keto For Life 21-Day challenge and really enjoying it. I read the book some weeks ago and mentioned it here, and now I'm 11 days into properly doing and journaling the challenge, which incrementally builds and breaks habits around what he defines as the four pillars of longevity: diet, movement and physical fitness, mental flexibility, and rest and recovery. So far I've made some good changes and additions to my regular routine, an earlier bedtime with less screen time at night, more frequent walks throughout the day, foam rolling in the evening, a more honest IF schedule, less clutter, and more. I like having something to focus on. The HCG protocol gave me that, and in P4 I was craving a little bit more structure. This is helping with that--and is in alignment with the overall life and lifestyle I want to create long term.

    Today's a teaching day, so I'd better get to prep. IR sauna and some errands afterward. A little self care on a day that has snow in the forecast. April is the cruelest month to paraphrase T.S. Eliot. . . . Happy Thursday, friends!

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    Yvonne, I just think it's in your nature and in alignment with your life experience to be a profound helper. It's a lovely thing as long as it's not a detriment to yourself. I'm always a bit wary of my own recovery from a very codependent nature for much of my life. And I took to heart the profound advice I received from a Buddhist Master a few years ago: if they don't ask, it's meddling.

    Of course what we're largely talking about is when people say, "Wow, you've lost a lot of weight and look great. . . . What did you/are you doing?" Yvonne goes full throttle sharing about HCG with tips, tricks, and a goodie bag to get started. I say something like "I cut out sugar and starches and started walking in the morning in a fasted state." That generally gives people enough to get started if they want to make a change. But in my experience, most people are just making conversation and don't really want to make a change. If I felt someone were truly serious and open to dramatic steps toward real change that has the potential to last, I might reveal the HCG magic. But most people in my life already think I'm beyond disciplined and a little nuts when it comes to health/diet/exercise, etc. No need to give them more fuel for the fire and one more thing to question. For me it's private. Much like my spirituality--which I reveal when it seems appropriate.

    Just my two cents on the matter.
    I love all of this especially the quote from the Buddhist master. Words to live by.

    When I am in the middle of my rounds, people ask me what I am doing to lose the weight and I answer truthfully. But if they say, "wow you have lost weight" I just say "thanks". I have a tennis friend who really wants to lose weight and I have offered this protocol to him a couple of times and have sent links to P & I. He has never taken the leap and I don't push it. He mentioned a couple days ago that he really needs to drop 20-30 pounds fast and I held my tongue. He already has the information. He is going to have to make that leap on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMissM View Post
    Yvonne, I just think it's in your nature and in alignment with your life experience to be a profound helper. It's a lovely thing as long as it's not a detriment to yourself. I'm always a bit wary of my own recovery from a very codependent nature for much of my life. And I took to heart the profound advice I received from a Buddhist Master a few years ago: if they don't ask, it's meddling.

    Of course what we're largely talking about is when people say, "Wow, you've lost a lot of weight and look great. . . . What did you/are you doing?" Yvonne goes full throttle sharing about HCG with tips, tricks, and a goodie bag to get started. I say something like "I cut out sugar and starches and started walking in the morning in a fasted state." That generally gives people enough to get started if they want to make a change. But in my experience, most people are just making conversation and don't really want to make a change. If I felt someone were truly serious and open to dramatic steps toward real change that has the potential to last, I might reveal the HCG magic. But most people in my life already think I'm beyond disciplined and a little nuts when it comes to health/diet/exercise, etc. No need to give them more fuel for the fire and one more thing to question. For me it's private. Much like my spirituality--which I reveal when it seems appropriate.

    Just my two cents on the matter.
    I feel much the same way as you MissM. When people ask me what I’m doing I just tell them I’m on a 30 day very low calorie/low fat protocol and leave it at that. I only share the protocol with people who I think the protocol would help and might be truly interested in doing it. I’ve had 3 close friends that I’ve shared the protocol with who did decide to do it. My cousin is one of them and it was always nice when we were in P2 together and we would make lunch for one another once in while. My mother is always asking me what I’m doing and I don’t think I will ever tell her about the protocol for a whole host of reasons. One being she would expect me to tell her every single detail of the plan as opposed actually reading the protocol or doing any research herself, which I find highly annoying....she would probably ask me to write it down, not kidding....and two being she doesn’t have a lot of weight to lose and wouldn’t actually do it anyway. She’d be happy just annoying me all the time asking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMissM View Post
    JGD, I halved the chocolate pudding recipe as you suggested and I'l be danged if that stuff isn't the bees' knees! I never doubted your suggestion in the least, but now I cannot thank you enough. It's basically the best chocolate mousse I've ever tasted. I don't know that it would achieve that amazing whipped texture had I not used my Vitamix (good lord what can't that thing do?!?), and I don't know that others would be as delighted as I am by the chocolate coconut flavor combo which happens to be my favorite when it comes to sweets, but yeah. I bookmarked it, found a few other recipes of hers to try, and now I'm researched the amazing resources on that website. She's a little off putting in her YouTube videos, IMHO, but I suspect she's got some really useful tools, so I'm all ears.

    I actually think I'm going to begin adding a few protein sparing days to see the outcome. No way am I on board with counting macros right now--too fussy for me and I'm in a good place overall, so no need--but I do think it's time to dial in some of my food choices. Yesterday I got a little nutty, pun intended, with some grain-free granola. Granola/cereal has always been my kryptonite, so I need to be careful anyway.

    But I really am trying out changing my behavior around old patterns. I know I'm an abstainer by nature, but I'm just wondering if there's a possibility that I could eat some of my favorites from time to time in moderation. I seem to have achieved that with chocolate, for example. You wouldn't believe the amount of the stuff I now have on hand and feel no impulse to gobble it all up in one go as I used to. This is food freedom for me.
    I know, it’s crazy, right?!! I hesitated making it myself the first time, then could not believe how amazing it was! I think Maria has some great information and recipes but feel she is WAY too “very low carb regimented”. That is a turn off for me as well. BUT I do have to credit her for putting me on my journey to healthy eating several years ago, as my journey began with reading her book Secrets to a Healthy Metabolism. Over the years I feel she has become even more militant in her approach. I just don’t agree with her “one size fits all” philosophy, so I just take the bits of information from her that I think might work for me. I do feel she is very knowledgeable but I have learned I feel crappy with too low carb.

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    MissM...
    as always I appreciate your feedback... is it not glorious how the Universe use each and everyone of us to do what we myst... or sometimes must not...
    My life policy is that we are all like ships in the night...people cross my path for a reason.. sometimes we just great in passing... sometimes life makes us stop and put that person in my space... when that happens, i know that it happened for one of two reasons...

    Reason one... I have a lesson to learn from you... and I do assess the possibility...every person on my path has a lesson for me... i can enrich my life by being open to whatever the Universe has in store for me

    Reason Two.... the Universe brings people on my path... and all I can do is to trust my instinct....like so many of You i do not reveal my HCG secret... in most cases... i do nit even bother to reveal any information... at most I scare the hell out of people....

    This conversation fell into place.... i told her not to even consider ordering until she has read .. reread and understood the concept of no cheating.... i got a message today that they received their order... husband us skinny and her biggest advocate... he is going to help her drive it ... and help her all the wat

    I think it was the right choice
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Round 3 - Loading 16 Apr '21 - start weight 76.4/168.1
    Round 2 - Jan-Mar '21 - lost 5kgs/11lbs
    Round 1 - Sept-Nov '20 - lost 10kgs/22lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMissM View Post
    Yvonne, I just think it's in your nature and in alignment with your life experience to be a profound helper. It's a lovely thing as long as it's not a detriment to yourself. I'm always a bit wary of my own recovery from a very codependent nature for much of my life. And I took to heart the profound advice I received from a Buddhist Master a few years ago: if they don't ask, it's meddling.

    Of course what we're largely talking about is when people say, "Wow, you've lost a lot of weight and look great. . . . What did you/are you doing?" Yvonne goes full throttle sharing about HCG with tips, tricks, and a goodie bag to get started. I say something like "I cut out sugar and starches and started walking in the morning in a fasted state." That generally gives people enough to get started if they want to make a change. But in my experience, most people are just making conversation and don't really want to make a change. If I felt someone were truly serious and open to dramatic steps toward real change that has the potential to last, I might reveal the HCG magic. But most people in my life already think I'm beyond disciplined and a little nuts when it comes to health/diet/exercise, etc. No need to give them more fuel for the fire and one more thing to question. For me it's private. Much like my spirituality--which I reveal when it seems appropriate.

    Just my two cents on the matter.



    OMG MissM, you handle questions re diet, weight loss exactly as I do! I just say cut out sugar, starches and try to drink a lot of water-no diet colas. Never talk about hcg, because I'm with you, generally they are just being polite and a few times in past where I mentioned hcg people have gotten negative on me. So nope, I don't go there anymore. And I agree Yvonne seems to be a true blue "nuturer," a "profound helper." And loved the comment about giving them a "goodie bag". That is part of her nuturing nature as well. I could probably work on that a little bit. sigh.

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    justgitterdone, I can't believe I had a reply typed to your post JGD, and dadgone if I didn't delete it somehow! Anyway, I had to giggle at your post, the part about your mom wanting every detail of protocol, and being annoying about it. I would never share with my mom either. On a mom note--I remember once a long time ago, probably around 2010, when I did my first hcg round, I had taken her to doctor. Sitting there in the waiting room she asked me (fairly loudly) what do you weigh now? I was so pissed (not to mention embarrassed and ashamed). I said HOW Rude! You don't ask people such a thing! And I didn't answer her either. If I remember tho, her asking that was one of the things that pushed me to try hcg--anything to lose weight. It was most annoying, her doing that. I would never ask anyone what they weighed, not her or my daughter (and she is a little thing). My girl dogs have never liked to be weighed either, unless necessary--I had two girls at one time, and tried a groomer located in a vet's clinic--they wanted to weigh them before they were groomed! Well, needless to say we didn't frequent that groomer again! Like you, I just say if people ask, no starches or sugars, low fat and no diet cola. But I haven't been out and about enough with friends since Covoid to get many questions.

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    MissM, I was just curious how your doctors visit body composition stats compared to the stats from your new scale? Were the scale stats accurate?

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    Dubbles, when you look up the word annoying you will find a picture of my mom. I can understand you being upset with your mom for what she did. Not making excuses for it but the bright side is something positive came out of it. Sometimes it takes something embarrassing or ugly to move us into action. Ive often wished my husband would say something when he sees me going off the deep end eating wise, but he won’t. He sees the train wreck happening right in front of his eyes and he doesn’t say a word. He’s an enabler when it comes bad food choices. I could ask him to stop and get me a pizza, coke and 20 Reece’s cups on the way home and he wouldn’t blink an eye. It’s depressing. I’ve even had conversations with him about it and asked him to help me when he sees me going down that rathole, he always says he will but he never does. I would love some support, someone to tell me to stop when I start going off the rails. He’s a terrible eater and no help at all.

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