Surviving P3 and P4 with the help of friends...

**FlirtyFlo** · October 30th, 2020, 12:29 AM

Ok another question...OK...questions?

The one big fail for most people in P3 I believe is the lack of baked goods... and I think I will be foolish if I do not wrap my head around it BEFORE going into P3... This P3 for me is not about cheating, saying oops and moving one.... I want to STABILIZE!

So here are my questions..

1) Does anyone have a basic bread recipe that works on P3?

2) In terms of Flours.... which ones do you have on standby in P3/P4?

3) I know calorie counting is not required in P3, But do you have your own invisible limit on Carbs consumed?

Any other words of wisdom to share?

**Maggie83** · October 30th, 2020, 05:19 AM

In p3 I liked cloud bread made with cream cheese.
I also loved a mug cake for breakfast. I’d use almond flour in it.

Stuffed bell peppers were my go to food. I’d cook up some ground turkey or chicken (don’t eat beef) and then add a sugar free salsa. P4 id add quinoa
Cook halved bell peppers with oil. Then add stuffing. Bake. Last 10 mins I’d add Monterey Jack cheese to the top.
Serve it with plain Greek yogurt. Fresh basil and avacado

Is quinoa allowed in p3? It’s something we eat a lot of in our family.

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**FlirtyFlo** · October 30th, 2020, 06:21 AM

LOL Maggie....
I hate Cooked Bell Peppers - I dislike the slimy texture haha!! so you stick to it at your end haha!

I saw a reply from Grammy to someone else re Quinoa...Only from P4 onwards

**mrsstrong** · October 30th, 2020, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo

Ok another question...OK...questions?

The one big fail for most people in P3 I believe is the lack of baked goods... and I think I will be foolish if I do not wrap my head around it BEFORE going into P3... This P3 for me is not about cheating, saying oops and moving one.... I want to STABILIZE!

So here are my questions..

1) Does anyone have a basic bread recipe that works on P3?

2) In terms of Flours.... which ones do you have on standby in P3?

3) I know calorie counting is not required in P3, But do you have your own invisible limit on Carbs consumed?

Any other words of wisdom to share?

Look for almond flour keto bread. I haven't tried any but I may plan on doing so this time around. We do have gluten-free crispbread here at Trader Joe's that only has 3 grams of net carbs so I often have one with cheese and butter. Yummy! It's mostly seeds but has some oat flour so will wait till P4 with this.
I use almond flour a lot. There are many many keto recipes using almond flour and eggs. The main problem in P3 still is no sweetener. I don't know if erythritol is allowed in P3?
I do love almond flour, cream cheese, and egg pancakes like these https://www.theworktop.com/breakfast...-almond-flour/
I do not count calories but do have a limit on carbs on my keto way of eating.
I think overall, not baking in P3 but waiting to P4 is wise!

**mrsstrong** · October 30th, 2020, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Maggie83

In p3 I liked cloud bread made with cream cheese.
I also loved a mug cake for breakfast. I’d use almond flour in it.

Stuffed bell peppers were my go to food. I’d cook up some ground turkey or chicken (don’t eat beef) and then add a sugar free salsa. P4 id add quinoa
Cook halved bell peppers with oil. Then add stuffing. Bake. Last 10 mins I’d add Monterey Jack cheese to the top.
Serve it with plain Greek yogurt. Fresh basil and avacado

Is quinoa allowed in p3? It’s something we eat a lot of in our family.

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Love stuffed peppers! We also do this with zucchini!
I don't think quinoa is allowed. It's a grain.

**Maggie83** · October 30th, 2020, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by mrsstrong

Love stuffed peppers! We also do this with zucchini!
I don't think quinoa is allowed. It's a grain.

I didn’t think it was allowed but thought I’d ask. Sorta hopeful. Lol.

For bread recipes I go to Elanas pantry. Her blog helped me sooooo much back in 2009. Between doing hcg and being told heading towards celiac (genetic) I needed to learn how to make new things. Her bread 2.0 was my favourite for a long time. Recently made keto bread and my husband didn’t mind it but it was too dense for him. Also love her power bars. Mmmmmm. Her chocolate cake was my go to for breakfast. Hahaha. Yes I had cake for breakfast. I figured it was mainly protein. All the eggs and almonds.

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**Maggie83** · October 30th, 2020, 08:50 AM

I mean coconut not almonds. It’s made with coconut flour.

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**Leez** · October 30th, 2020, 09:03 AM

Quinoa is a seed, but not a good choice for P3. Grains are not P3 friendly, but erythritol and xylitol are fine.

This is from the Bob's Redmill site, and explains it fairly well:

The quinoa seed is a pseudocereal, as opposed to a grain. Pseudocereals are plants that produce seeds and fruits that are similar to grains and used in virtually the same ways. High in protein, nutrients, and vitamins, pseudocereals are most commonly gluten free and considered whole grains, despite not being a true grain.

Some can use the Ezekiel 4:9 sprouted breads in P3. The rationale is that sprouted grains are plants and can be considered a vegetable. I'm not sure I agree with that, however, I have found that I can use some Ezekiel 4:9 bread in P3. I don't test it until the second week or so.

**mrsstrong** · October 30th, 2020, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Leez

Quinoa is a seed, but not a good choice for P3. Grains are not P3 friendly, but erythritol and xylitol are fine.

Oh, dear. Isn't that the best news!!!!! I will not rush into it but OMG. Happy dance!

**FlirtyFlo** · October 31st, 2020, 09:24 AM

Morning Bunnies....
I swear COVID fried my brains!!! I laughed myself silly this morning
We have like a pharmacy Chain where you buy all things health related and you can collect scriits or fo ORC meds...
I went in this morning... got my protein powder.. colloidal silver etc....
I proceeded to the check our queue... but my head was somewhere else
Waited my term... socially distanced on my spot and eventually... next customer... number 5 please
Got to number 5.... started unpacking my basket....
I was not at the check out... i was at the pharmacy queue.... what a hoot!

Anyways... i had an awesome journey of discovery this morning... covid isolation... had no idea these goods were available... pricey... but available

The health store in question is close enough but does take a whole saturday morning out so whenever i go there i stock up and this time i purchased to have what i need fir the next 2 months... i found amazing additions to make p3 and P4 easier... will post lables tomorrow for scrutiny

One Question I have... obviously any treats are on a moderation basis

But what is the feeling on sugar-free choc
I have a reputable Belgium chocolate factory down the road... for sugar free i have to fo a kg at a time ... bit will use some for Christmas gifts.... can we use... in moderation use Sugar free chocolate in P3?
I was thinking of using it for Snacks ie coconut /chocolate ir coconut/peanut treats
I am not a sweet tooth... but having treats in the house makes me less Pshyco about wanting it

**mrsstrong** · October 31st, 2020, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo

One Question I have... obviously any treats are on a moderation basis

But what is the feeling on sugar-free choc
I have a reputable Belgium chocolate factory down the road... for sugar free i have to fo a kg at a time ... bit will use some for Christmas gifts.... can we use... in moderation use Sugar free chocolate in P3?
I was thinking of using it for Snacks ie coconut /chocolate ir coconut/peanut treats
I am not a sweet tooth... but having treats in the house makes me less Pshyco about wanting it

I don't like so-called sugar-free things because the sweetener is usually something like aspartame or sucralose, etc. I avoid all those chemical sweeteners. So I'd look for ingredients. Here in the US sugar-free can still mean maple syrup or honey is used too so I am always reading labels.

**FlirtyFlo** · October 31st, 2020, 02:07 PM

Good point... i’ll chat to the factory manager
From past experience i believe its none of the Alcohol based sugars

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