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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

    Hm. Cool. Wish I had known that earlier. But won't b able to do it while traveling anyway. Will only add maybe eggs or avocados or a bit of lettuce for the next days then, depending on what's available (till Sunday) & c how it goes. Then maybe start over in mo. Decided not to take the scale along, so won't know how things went till then.

    Thanx for ur help.

    As for pork, I know they used to transplant heart & other organs. Nowadays they still transplant heart valves as far as I am aware of.

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    Hi Pensee!!

    Yeah, losing more weight even in the first few days of the PCDS apparently turns out to be the norm; it's pretty cool. I'll highlight this in The PCDS Guide.

    And...eggs are a no-no on PCDS, sweet Pensee! Please don't do them until ur body has COMPLETELY calmed down and stabilized!

    Instead, use avocados and chicken fat (sometimes referred to as 'schmaltz,' usually in Jewish recipes). Side note: although schmaltz, when mentioned, is usually referring to "chicken fat" in Jewish cooking...the term originated in Germany/the German language...and actually means ANY kind of fat. Previously in German culture, it most always assumed to mean 'pork fat' as that was their staple...in Jewish lingo though, it's chicken fat. Schmaltz itself is really a general term for "rendered animal fat." I read up a lot on fat nowadays...lol

    So. Get hold of some schmaltz (but ONLY IF IT IS CHICKEN FAT schmaltz) add it to ur recipes as a base for sauces, slather it on your meats, use it as a substitute for mayonnaise in recipes...the list goes on and on!!!! AND SCHMALTZ IS SOOO EASY to make; just bake some chicken, and pour the grease that runs off it into a bowl...place that bowl in the fridge, and voila -- the schmaltz is the white stuff at the top that RISES TO THE TOP of the bowl!! I have NO idea what the other stuff is...but the creamy, succulent white stuff is schmaltz!!

    Gooodness graacious...looks like it's about time for me to make some recipes and start postin' them!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pensee View Post
    Hm. Cool. Wish I had known that earlier. But won't b able to do it while traveling anyway. Will only add maybe eggs or avocados or a bit of lettuce for the next days then, depending on what's available (till Sunday) & c how it goes. Then maybe start over in mo. Decided not to take the scale along, so won't know how things went till then.

    Thanx for ur help.

    As for pork, I know they used to transplant heart & other organs. Nowadays they still transplant heart valves as far as I am aware of.

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    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

    Well, sweetie, I am at a hotel... so eggs might b the best I can do at breakfast (it ll b my day 3 pcds & I think I m o.k. with them)... but still hoping for them to ve some smoked fish at the breakfast buffet. Other alternative d b cold cuts with loads of additives or cheese?

    Obviously I can't make any Schmalz either... that's y I am using butter, remember?

    Hope I can find a supermarket close by, so I can at least get some avocados. Still ve 2 small beef patties left from today, but that's it. No microwave or even water boiler here. I d normally do salads in this situation, but I won't b able to keep my carbs down then... Hm, we ll c.

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    Hiya, Penseeee!

    So, here's what I would do if I were in your shoes.

    Eggs....they're not US eggs. Which....well, perhaps they're not full of ___ ingredient/reason nobody seems to be able to find that causes inflammatory responses in P3. Who knows. So, as for European eggs: jury's still out.

    Cold cuts: additives, yep. They're there, and imho, worse than any potential egg. Also: sodium content will be sizable compared to eggs, and any other food.

    Smoked fish: umm, well...no idea if that has ___ in it that's good or not good. It IS fish, which can be fun/good to eat, but if it's LEAN fish, it'll be a protein fiesta; it'll have more protein than fat. Also: check to see if any "seasonings" in the smoked fish have sugar, or are soy-derivatives. And once again, because it'll have more protein than fat, keep that in mind when trying to balance your ratio.

    And, speaking of trying to balance out a ratio, the rule of thumb I go by when determining what foods to add to balance out my own ratio is this:

    FOR MORE FAT: eat any poultry (bird). Chicken, duck, goose, et cetera. I don't think turkey is an issue; it tends to be low-fat here in the US stores, though, and it was never an allowed food on P2 (but then again, neither was goose or duck). So, try to get any poultry you can, with the skin on, and without some goofy marinade (because a lot of marinades have sugar).

    And always, always: if you get anything deep-fried...you could be loading your body up with goitrogens (thyroid inhibitors) -- "VEGETABLE OIL" is another word for SOY, and soy is the most goitrogenic, thyroid-inhibiting thing out there. Beware the 'vegetable' oil in many restaurants' deep fryers! Whenever you can, GET YOUR FOOD BAKED.

    FOR MORE PROTEIN: seafood is typically high in protein, low in fat....when it comes to crustaceans (shellfish) at least. Whitefish (cod, haddock and flatfish) are the leanest, and least contaminated with toxins such as mercury and dioxin. Salmon is a "fatty fish" and still is more protein than fat...but it has more fat than whitefish. If you do eat salmon, eat "Wild Caught" only. Farmed varieties are even MORE riddled with toxins than their wild cousins. Personally, I prefer "red salmon" -- it's tastier than "pink salmon." Red salmon species I've eaten and enjoyed: sockeye salmon.

    FOR A PERFECTLY BALANCED FOOD -- GREAT FAT/PROTEIN RATIO FOR PCDS: It's anything BEEF that looks pretty fatty to you laying on a shelf in your grocer's refrigerated section. Chuck eye steak, pot roast beef, anything used as a meat -- before seasoning, of course! -- for Carne Asada is usually fatty. Just use your own best judgment and plug whatever it is into your tracker to see what it amounts to, calorie-wise and ratio-wise. Beef is also something you don't have to eat A LOT of to get your calorie count high (and in the absence of refined carbs....that's really tough!). It's also a relief on your budget: get the "SELECT GRADE" of beef, and it'll be cheaper (yay!) than other grades that have more protein than fat (such as Prime).

    ON THE ROAD: This is really tricky!! You have LESS CONTROL over your food than before. Eat as much fatty beef as you can eat, don't get anything deep-fried, get baked foods only, ask what spices are on your food, do not eat anything with sauces unless you know what's in the sauce (it's usually flour, which you have to avoid)....ugh, Pensee, I feel for you, honey!

    Eggs are better than cheeses, or any dairy, as all dairy has sugar inside it to one degree or another. If you can find Schmaltz in your local grocer's freezer/refrigerated section (or a Jewish Deli!), go there. Get the one WITHOUT ONIONS, though. It's commercially available, but WHERE is tricky. Jewish Delis, when on the road and looking for onion-free Schmaltz, are your best bet.

    Avocados have carbs, FYI! SO if you're still in the first two days of PCDS....don't do avos, Pensee! Do butter if you HAVE to add fats, but if you can find GHEE....YAAY! Do that. Butter should be a last resort, which I'm pretty sure is where you're at.

    Keep up the good work! And keep us posted too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pensee View Post
    Well, sweetie, I am at a hotel... so eggs might b the best I can do at breakfast (it ll b my day 3 pcds & I think I m o.k. with them)... but still hoping for them to ve some smoked fish at the breakfast buffet. Other alternative d b cold cuts with loads of additives or cheese?

    Obviously I can't make any Schmalz either... that's y I am using butter, remember?

    Hope I can find a supermarket close by, so I can at least get some avocados. Still ve 2 small beef patties left from today, but that's it. No microwave or even water boiler here. I d normally do salads in this situation, but I won't b able to keep my carbs down then... Hm, we ll c.

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    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

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    where can i read the post about PCDS?? TIA
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    Sure thing, hilda!

    You can read about the Post-Correction Day Strategy at my blog, but keep in mind it should only be done after a SUCCESSFUL correction day (whether that's via Chicken Thigh Day or otherwise). If you ever have a failed correction day, you do the Chicken Thigh Day approach first, okay?

    And once you read The PCDS Guide...please read the whole, ENTIRE thing, okay? It's not something that can be "guessed" at, or "improvised" at. It's an approach that's more scientific/detail-oriented than anything else.

    That being said, here's the Chicken Thigh Day post: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    And although the link to the PCDS Guide is at the bottom of that post, I'll post a direct link to the PCDS Guide here for convenience's sake: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    Also: many answers to questions people may have are probably posted somewhere on my blog. So, here's a link to it: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/blogs/gonnaloseit/

    Last but not least: if you ever wanna find my blog and don't want to have to sift through these posts to find this link again, you can always click the tttiiinnnnyyy little number by my avatar. It's by the phrase "Blog Entries" to the left of each post on the forum. Your blog link is in your avatar too! Very convenient.

    Have a great afternoon! And PM me with any immediate/time sensitive questions, always. Nice to see you here, hilda!

    Quote Originally Posted by hilda View Post
    where can i read the post about PCDS?? TIA
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    pandora: congrats on your loss. You HAVE to know that 5.4 lbs lost on any correction day is....way, way unusual. You're an anomaly! Most people don't do anything close to what you did on that steak day. In fact, many people lose *very little* on a steak day or *gain*....

    One other thing: eggs aren't the best choice, and may have been the reason for your gain before you did this correction day. Were you eating eggs before this? If you had been eating them, and you'd been gaining, I would personally advise you to stop eating eggs.

    And although I'm REALLY happy for your loss, it really doesn't have anything to do with chicken...so, just wondering: any comments on use of chicken in any loss day for you? If you have any experience with chicken, please post that here.
    Yes definitely for me the best & yummiest food on P3 are chicken wings or chicken legs. Not too crazy about chicken thighs. But I add hot sauce (make sure sugar free), season with salt/pepper/lemon & olive oil & then out in the oven. 1 hour & then turn for another hour until crispy. For both of my rounds that has been the first meal I've had ! I never worry about gaining on the wings or legs actually was able to maintain 1 lbs under ldw last round & I would have this meal once a week.
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    R1 hHCG lost 27.5 lbs.
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    LDW 129.2 total lost 119 lbs !!
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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    Hiya, Penseeee!

    So, here's what I would do if I were in your shoes.

    Eggs....they're not US eggs. Which....well, perhaps they're not full of ___ ingredient/reason nobody seems to be able to find that causes inflammatory responses in P3. Who knows. So, as for European eggs: jury's still out.

    Cold cuts: additives, yep. They're there, and imho, worse than any potential egg. Also: sodium content will be sizable compared to eggs, and any other food.

    Smoked fish: umm, well...no idea if that has ___ in it that's good or not good. It IS fish, which can be fun/good to eat, but if it's LEAN fish, it'll be a protein fiesta; it'll have more protein than fat. Also: check to see if any "seasonings" in the smoked fish have sugar, or are soy-derivatives. And once again, because it'll have more protein than fat, keep that in mind when trying to balance your ratio.

    And, speaking of trying to balance out a ratio, the rule of thumb I go by when determining what foods to add to balance out my own ratio is this:

    FOR MORE FAT: eat any poultry (bird). Chicken, duck, goose, et cetera. I don't think turkey is an issue; it tends to be low-fat here in the US stores, though, and it was never an allowed food on P2 (but then again, neither was goose or duck). So, try to get any poultry you can, with the skin on, and without some goofy marinade (because a lot of marinades have sugar).

    And always, always: if you get anything deep-fried...you could be loading your body up with goitrogens (thyroid inhibitors) -- "VEGETABLE OIL" is another word for SOY, and soy is the most goitrogenic, thyroid-inhibiting thing out there. Beware the 'vegetable' oil in many restaurants' deep fryers! Whenever you can, GET YOUR FOOD BAKED.

    FOR MORE PROTEIN: seafood is typically high in protein, low in fat....when it comes to crustaceans (shellfish) at least. Whitefish (cod, haddock and flatfish) are the leanest, and least contaminated with toxins such as mercury and dioxin. Salmon is a "fatty fish" and still is more protein than fat...but it has more fat than whitefish. If you do eat salmon, eat "Wild Caught" only. Farmed varieties are even MORE riddled with toxins than their wild cousins. Personally, I prefer "red salmon" -- it's tastier than "pink salmon." Red salmon species I've eaten and enjoyed: sockeye salmon.

    FOR A PERFECTLY BALANCED FOOD -- GREAT FAT/PROTEIN RATIO FOR PCDS: It's anything BEEF that looks pretty fatty to you laying on a shelf in your grocer's refrigerated section. Chuck eye steak, pot roast beef, anything used as a meat -- before seasoning, of course! -- for Carne Asada is usually fatty. Just use your own best judgment and plug whatever it is into your tracker to see what it amounts to, calorie-wise and ratio-wise. Beef is also something you don't have to eat A LOT of to get your calorie count high (and in the absence of refined carbs....that's really tough!). It's also a relief on your budget: get the "SELECT GRADE" of beef, and it'll be cheaper (yay!) than other grades that have more protein than fat (such as Prime).

    ON THE ROAD: This is really tricky!! You have LESS CONTROL over your food than before. Eat as much fatty beef as you can eat, don't get anything deep-fried, get baked foods only, ask what spices are on your food, do not eat anything with sauces unless you know what's in the sauce (it's usually flour, which you have to avoid)....ugh, Pensee, I feel for you, honey!

    Eggs are better than cheeses, or any dairy, as all dairy has sugar inside it to one degree or another. If you can find Schmaltz in your local grocer's freezer/refrigerated section (or a Jewish Deli!), go there. Get the one WITHOUT ONIONS, though. It's commercially available, but WHERE is tricky. Jewish Delis, when on the road and looking for onion-free Schmaltz, are your best bet.

    Avocados have carbs, FYI! SO if you're still in the first two days of PCDS....don't do avos, Pensee! Do butter if you HAVE to add fats, but if you can find GHEE....YAAY! Do that. Butter should be a last resort, which I'm pretty sure is where you're at.

    Keep up the good work! And keep us posted too!
    No, it's day 3. And I am out of options. Smoked fish here is typically salmon, flounder or macrel, sometimes herring, so they r all not too lean and they typically only add some salt, but not too much. Am not too concerned abt na anyway. My blood pressure is normally 90/60, so pretty low & I ve to take care not to get too little sodium, else it drops even lower. Water weight from inflammation ll come off eventually anyway.
    Ll go down for breakfast in 30 min. Wish me luck.
    Avocados ll b my only carbs added for today, if I get them. Hass ve only 3-5 g per fruit, I can live with that.

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    Avocados are FINE on P3 - tuck in! They have both regular and Hass at Edeka, or I grab some cheese or cold cut meat. You can also grab a Döner-Tüte in between, just ask for only meat (veal or chicken) and salad, no fries or sauce. Jim Block is a brilliant burger place (Jungfernstieg or Barmbek) that can serve the burger without the bun, sometimes I just grab McDonalds and ditch the bun.

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    Sweetiepie...this is the PCDS we're talking about; not "normal" P3, my dear. Good to see you here, btw!

    Keep in mind you've just posted in a thread about a very *specific* approach, not just *any* P3. Go read my blog, or read thru the other posts here, and you'll catch up just fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by sweetiepie View Post
    Avocados are FINE on P3 - tuck in! They have both regular and Hass at Edeka, or I grab some cheese or cold cut meat. You can also grab a Döner-Tüte in between, just ask for only meat (veal or chicken) and salad, no fries or sauce. Jim Block is a brilliant burger place (Jungfernstieg or Barmbek) that can serve the burger without the bun, sometimes I just grab McDonalds and ditch the bun.
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    I was actually referring to Pensee, who is in my city right now, I think. Even if we are talking CD, those are still my steak alternatives when on the go and doing a correction day...

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    I know you were referring to Pensee, but...I was the one who referred to avocados, and Pensee's eating them. So, you were basically mentioning that she should eat avocaods without realizing why it was recommended she not eat them on no-carb days. You just did not know any better, I know -- you likely just saw someone say "no, hold the avocados!" and reacted to that post. It's understandable -- I get why you posted that. But keep in mind, you jumped into the middle of a conversation about something new to you, something that can't be answered by the advice you gave. PCDS is *not* normal P3 eating. And again, I'm just letting you know that hey, what you said was fine for "normal" P3 eating; not in this case though.

    Quote Originally Posted by sweetiepie View Post
    I was actually referring to Pensee, who is in my city right now, I think. Even if we are talking CD, those are still my steak alternatives when on the go and doing a correction day...
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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