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    Thank you .. is when i eat a lot fats i was reading about the pancreatic attack you had and felt like that ... is like the pain is going to my back and then i start burping to feel better.. i love cucumber yummi .... i have a question can i take magnesium chloride in p3?? because i only go to the bathroom is when i drink coffee even i get hyper from the cafeine ... if you know any supplement that may help me to digest the fat please let me know ... this 2 days been easy i didnt have to figured out what to eat . can i take bean enzyme ?cucumber bloated me in p2 ...
    AND if things kep the same i can avocados tomorrow
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    Hi hilda dear...

    Because you have been on an almost EXCLUSIVELY no-fat diet even before hCG, and you have a sizable chunk taken out of your stomach for the bariatric surgery you had performed on you in the past...you're a special case. So, your big swing down the other day, where you were below LDW; I knew you'd not last there long, and is why I told you to keep going with PCDS until you see a gain ('cause as much as you swung down, you were due for a swing up almost as large; big swings back and forth get smaller with time, but they're like a pendulum until then).

    Soooo....yes, as far as avocado goes -- it's great. But it's VERY carb-heavy. You CAN have it, but in small amounts the first couple days of PCDS, because you are gooing slooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww with carbs. You ARE tracking your ratio, right? THAT is essential, dear hilda. It's the little percentage that looks like "68:1:31" ((<-- a ratio I had at one point on PCDS -- PCDS 3 -- which is the 1-3% range for carbs)).

    So, yep -- you can have other carbs, just not as many of them as you can with cucumbers. You can have a bunch of cukes and it fits into your ratio without spiking it upward for calories from carbs. Look at the veggie list in my blog (click the link in my avatar) and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    And yes, u can have the mag chloride in P3. I previously didn't take it in P3, because I was concerned about fillers...but they're miniscule, and the benefits outweigh any risks.

    And no -- NO BEAN EXTRACT to digest fats. The WHOLE POINT of doing PCDS is to amp up your body and get it prepared to secrete more digestive enzymes to break down the fats. You WANT it to be having to work hard. The crappy feeling you report COULD be the crappy feeling that is the "switch over" I reported in my guide...which IS GOOD!

    PM me with Poop Details, hilda!
    Now, about that pain you mention....did you have other symptoms with your poop? If you did, you'll know what I'm talking about. I won't go into detail here, but PM me with details on how your poop looked. That will be the deciding factor of if u did have stress on your pancreas...and if it is certified acute pancreatitis, you will need to go to the hospital. Do get back to me with that info ASAP and I'll tell u if it was what I experienced when my body was addicted to digestive enzymes.

    NO "HELPERS" FOR ANYONE, NOTHING TO TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR BODY'S EFFORTS!!!
    And, about those enzymes, or other helpers: DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING THAT DOES THE WORK OF YOUR BODY'S DIGESTIVE SYSTEM FOR YOU. That was my BIG mistake in R1, which is what I talk about in the blog.

    Again, I'll stress that the WHOLE POINT of the CTD and PCDS is to AMP UP your body and make it have a higher metabolism (more digestive enzymes produced), and to reduce cortisol spikes in the process (because if your body is balanced with more of its own digestive enzymes, it can handle things like cortisol and blood sugar better!). When you take digestive enzyme supplements, you undo all your hard work you're doing in PCDS.

    My body got DEPENDENT on digestive enzymes in R1, and when I stopped taking them and then tried to eat a normal diet, my body DID NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY to digest fats. I had to go BACK on them, and then WEAN myself off of them for MONTHS. It took me, no kidding, 5 months -- that's 5 MONTHS -- before my body got back to normal. I dare say that when I did finally wean myself off the damn things (digestive enzymes), I was still not fully normal after that until I did PCDS. PCDS saved me!! That's when I felt my body AMPING UP, and being asked to produce the enzymes ON ITS OWN that it needed to so that IT COULD BE HEALTHY, and finally get me to stabilize. The use of digestive enzymes for me in R1P3 and the issues that followed...because of this experience I am POSITIVE the digestive enzymes were the reason why I never was able to fully stabilize in R1. In R2, though -- this round -- I've FINALLY found stabilization ((thru the CTD and PCDS!!!!!)).

    So, no beano. No digestive enzymes. YOU are robbing your body of the chance to be healthy if you take them! I am adamant on this; it's a dangerous, slippery slope. Endure the "switch over" hilda, and your body will be better off for it, I know that from experience!!!

    Remember: PM me with details of how your poop looked that day when you felt discomfort, ASAP!!


    Quote Originally Posted by hilda View Post
    Thank you .. is when i eat a lot fats i was reading about the pancreatic attack you had and felt like that ... is like the pain is going to my back and then i start burping to feel better.. i love cucumber yummi .... i have a question can i take magnesium chloride in p3?? because i only go to the bathroom is when i drink coffee even i get hyper from the cafeine ... if you know any supplement that may help me to digest the fat please let me know ... this 2 days been easy i didnt have to figured out what to eat . can i take bean enzyme ?cucumber bloated me in p2 ...
    AND if things kep the same i can avocados tomorrow
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    HEY yes i still under my LDW which was 199.4 i think i will try carbs after 2 days in the same weight ... do tha make sense??? . avocados can wait they not going anywhere lol ... I want to do more rounds but i am focus in stabilization right now ... which is more important for me .. i think for my next round i will do RX injections ... i heard is easy .. once a day and no waiting to eat ...
    You can do it , you just have to try.... nothing is impossible with determination.

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    Hi all...

    I listed what to eat, what not to eat in PCDS in my blog; there is a link to those foods inside the guide, but I'll just shorthand it here for you, and everyone else who is new to the PCDS:

    1. no dairy (no cow products from milk, so that is a big NO on cheese, unfortunately)
    2. no cooking sprays (they have soy and silicone and whatnot, all bad)
    3. no goitrogens (have to see the blog post to see them all; soy is the WORST)
    4. no typical P3 inflammatory culprits ((so no nuts, no eggs, no pork (this includes bacon) -- these can be eaten in P4, but not advisable in P3))
    5. no deli meats
    6. no beans (legumes)
    7. NOTHING processed (that includes anything that's a "combo" food, lots of stuff mashed together to make something else)
    8. ....and it goes without saying no sugar and no starches (all veggies that are starchy, not just potatoes)....and sugar in all forms, which includes fruit (so avoid them too)
    9. no grains, no bakery products that contain them; not even if it's "gluten free"

    I think that about covers it; those are the "big points." There are a few other nuances, but you get the point.

    Click the little link that's a number by the text that says "Blog Entries:" in my avatar, and you can always get to my blog, and read about this stuff there. Otherwise, here's a direct link: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/blogs/gonnaloseit/

    A couple of posts in my blog discuss food to eat on PCDS; several others talk about things not to eat, and so forth. So, here are the posts folks need to read on the food that's allowed, to get up to speed on PCDS eating ((in addition to the guide)):

    http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16746
    http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16742
    http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16779
    http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16719
    http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16756

    And as always, if you're not sure if you can eat something in PCDS, you can always PM me.
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Gonna, have you ever tried eating fatty fish, like catfish, etc? I think you mentioned salmon, but what about other fish that's pretty fatty? How would you prepare it, if it works ok?

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    I think all fish is generally okay; catfish is good imho only if it's not farm raised (not for PCDS in particular, but because of the dioxin/toxin amt.). And in my experience, all catfish usually found at the supermarket are, unfortunately, farm raised. If you're desperate for "something different" and love catfish, then go for it. Catfish are tasty, just raised in dirty, toxic environments when farm raised.

    I'd broil fish, of any kind. I don't batter fish, or fry it, as it tends to lose all flavor when it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mini View Post
    Gonna, have you ever tried eating fatty fish, like catfish, etc? I think you mentioned salmon, but what about other fish that's pretty fatty? How would you prepare it, if it works ok?
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    I think all fish is generally okay; catfish is good imho only if it's not farm raised (not for PCDS in particular, but because of the dioxin/toxin amt.). And in my experience, all catfish usually found at the supermarket are, unfortunately, farm raised. If you're desperate for "something different" and love catfish, then go for it. Catfish are tasty, just raised in dirty, toxic environments when farm raised.

    I'd broil fish, of any kind. I don't batter fish, or fry it, as it tends to lose all flavor when it does.
    Hope you're not getting sick of all my questions. LOL

    Have you ever incorporated a fat fast day into your plan? I was just reading up on this: http://www.carbsmart.com/fatfast.html I've heard of people having success with it and wondered how it would work to do maybe an FF initially and follow it up with your PCSD? Or vice versa?

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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

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    Hope you're not getting sick of all my questions. LOL

    Have you ever incorporated a fat fast day into your plan? I was just reading up on this: http://www.carbsmart.com/fatfast.html I've heard of people having success with it and wondered how it would work to do maybe an FF initially and follow it up with your PCSD? Or vice versa?
    For some ppl it works really well. Only tried it once myself. It was awful. Was starving, cold & had no energy all day. U ll ve to try it for urself though, but I d take the ctd over q fat fast anytime. Didn't lose much with the FF either.

    Fish: love to put it in tin foil with lemon juice, a few lemon or lime slices, s&p and some herbs (thyme or rosemary or any herb mixture that u like). Close the Tim foil & bake at 160 degrees for 10-15 min. If its fish with skin open the foil & broil for the last 2-5 min. Yummy. Still ve some macrel in the freezer...

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    I've been looking at the site, and will have to do some more looking on the forums to see if others here have had a good experience with it, short of my doing it myself of course.

    I'll take Pensee's word on it any day, though; she's got a great perspective on these things. If it didn't work for her....I would approach a fat fast with skepticism.

    One other thing: the author of the article recommends a LOT of dairy, also peanut butter (not good in P3), and macadamia nuts (also not good in P3 for many ppl, as it's a frequent inflammatory culprit). IF I were to do a FF day, I'd do only saturated fat (animal fat), rather than a dairy-laden, peanut-laden, etc.-laden day. Those are all things that cause issues in P3, for me and for others.

    If you're REALLY hankering for an alternative correction day, and want to go the route of a fat-heavy day, cook chicken and save the grease (make schmaltz)....then use that grease to add to all your recipes (say, salmon with schmaltz) throughout a day. Something like that, where you're upping your fats to an inherently fatty source. BUT, I would not recommend going the route of dairy, or nuts, or pork, as ALL of these are not P3 safe.

    EVEN in P4, it's tricky with those choices. So, do the FF if u wish, but be warned it comes with a few possible hazards. Remember: the reason why dairy exists in the first place is to fatten up a baby cow into a 2-ton heffer. It's got a LOTTA sugar with that fat -- remember what I said about eating high fat and sugar together in the same meal???? That it'll make anyone gain?? Just sayin'....dairy isn't the best candidate for use as a fat source, because it usually contains sugar......


    Quote Originally Posted by Mini View Post
    Hope you're not getting sick of all my questions. LOL

    Have you ever incorporated a fat fast day into your plan? I was just reading up on this: http://www.carbsmart.com/fatfast.html I've heard of people having success with it and wondered how it would work to do maybe an FF initially and follow it up with your PCSD? Or vice versa?
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

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    I've been looking at the site, and will have to do some more looking on the forums to see if others here have had a good experience with it, short of my doing it myself of course.

    I'll take Pensee's word on it any day, though; she's got a great perspective on these things. If it didn't work for her....I would approach a fat fast with skepticism.

    One other thing: the author of the article recommends a LOT of dairy, also peanut butter (not good in P3), and macadamia nuts (also not good in P3 for many ppl, as it's a frequent inflammatory culprit). IF I were to do a FF day, I'd do only saturated fat (animal fat), rather than a dairy-laden, peanut-laden, etc.-laden day. Those are all things that cause issues in P3, for me and for others.

    If you're REALLY hankering for an alternative correction day, and want to go the route of a fat-heavy day, cook chicken and save the grease (make schmaltz)....then use that grease to add to all your recipes (say, salmon with schmaltz) throughout a day. Something like that, where you're upping your fats to an inherently fatty source. BUT, I would not recommend going the route of dairy, or nuts, or pork, as ALL of these are not P3 safe.

    EVEN in P4, it's tricky with those choices. So, do the FF if u wish, but be warned it comes with a few possible hazards. Remember: the reason why dairy exists in the first place is to fatten up a baby cow into a 2-ton heffer. It's got a LOTTA sugar with that fat -- remember what I said about eating high fat and sugar together in the same meal???? That it'll make anyone gain?? Just sayin'....dairy isn't the best candidate for use as a fat source, because it usually contains sugar......
    Oh no. Don't take my word for it. I ve got hormone issues, so I am not a measure for anything. I did research it though, and it does seem like there r ppl who really do well on it & others who don't. Since u r supposed to ve 80-90% of ur cal from fat meats won't do. I did coffee with heavy cream & butter, avocados with olive oil, egg with loads of butter. If u can eat macadamias go for it, but check first if u r really o.k. with them. I did Brazil nuts instead. If u can tolerate dairy u can eat very fatty French cheese like prie. It doesn't contain any sugar. But some ppl react to casein (milk protein) especially in P3 since it cross reacts with gluten AB. U can try raw milk cheese if u can get it. It's safer since the casein was not altered by heating. U can also eat hwc sweetened with stevia & vanilla or ur choice of flavour. If u like yogurt u can make ur own doubly fermented yogurt (an LC trick). Get milk (best is raw of course) & dome starter culture or some organic yogurt, no additives. Warm the milk to 30-40 degrees. Mix in the culture or yogurt. Put into glass container & put somewhere warm for 48 h. That's more than 4x the regular fermentation time & will het rid of almost all the lactose (sugar) in there. But it will b pretty acidic in taste. For FF u can use whipping cream instead of the milk.
    But b aware that when u try the FF the portions r really small...

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    HI Gonna Lose It,
    Well I lost a BIG amount with my CTD!!! Three point two pounds! (My kindle will not do numbers right now for some reason!) Anyways, thanks so much for all your help and advice. It was a little tough getting that last thigh down, as I just was NOT hungry, but I forced it down.... with great results. So today and tomorrow just lots of fatty protein and no carbs. I think ill have more CT, and try some pot roast, and salmon with schmaltz. How does that sound?
    Thanks again!




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    It probably won't work for me. One thing I HATE is being hungry or feeling deprived, even if I'm not actually hungry. It's from all those years of dieting and starving myself and I'll be this way til I die.

    I WISH I could just EAT and not have to worry about reactions, inflammation, fat v. carbs v. protein, etc. Just eat CLEAN and not think about every grape or piece of chicken or whatever! I'm not asking to eat junk food w/out consequences, I know what those are and I accept that. I have no problem with that. If I could just figure out this puzzle, I'm be a happy woman. lol

    I'm 58 years old, post-meno and I have no thyroid and my adrenals are shot. HCG was the only way I managed to lose the weight but I need to find my magic spot to KEEP it off.

    Just a vent.

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