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    Ok so just the meats today, nothing else and same for Saturday and Sunday then? And about how much should I be eating?

    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    MCT oil has carbs, my dear. Not great for PCDS days 1 and 2. And we wanna kind of "re-start" your system in a manner of speaking, and make sure anything that COULD be an inflammatory agent is avoided, at least initially. Coconut oil has that potential, as in P3 it can cause an inflammatory response. Not so much in P4. Same for a lot of other inflammatory agents; they cause bigger issues in P3 than P4 (eggs in particular). This is why people say, "but I was always able to eat eggs before, and never had these issues"....but in P3, there are issues with eggs for them.

    Schmaltz I make myself, and you can too. But if you don't have the time to make it (it's just pouring off the grease of a baked chicken, placing it in the fridge, using it later), that's fine. The only reason why you'd have to use schmaltz or any other fat is because adding these offsets goitrogenic effects from goitrogens. Soy is the biggest one out there. So, if you eat soy, in any form (it has lots of names!), be sure to eat saturated (from animals) fat or fat from avocados.

    Avocados have carbs, which is why I didn't recommend you eat avos with your salmon today if it had soy lecithin.

    So, because you don't have soy in there, no worries on adding fats, ok? You'll be fine.

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    Danielle said it correctly....and I like how she phrased it -- that PCDS is a chance for us to do a "restart" of P3, in a manner of speaking. That's an interesting way of putting it!

    So yeah -- after 7 days of stabilization at the same weight (within 1 lb up or down of the same weight, specifically speaking) you can introduce dairy.

    I think I'll eventually expand the guide to include more of these FAQs, so to speak, when I add in the recipes I've been putting together. For now, just think of dairy as a friend who went on vacation, Randi...but they'll be back!





    Quote Originally Posted by sandiegorandi View Post
    Hello!
    After PCDS 2, I am down another .6 pounds to 144. Before CTD, I had stablized around 145, but then jumped to 148, and decided to do the CTD. In 3 short days I have lost 4.4 pounds. I am happy that today I get to start adding back in a few carbs!

    My plan is to add in lettuce, cucumber and asparagas. Sound good?
    Keep eating as I have been with the fatty protein, just add those veggies?
    I think I am also adding in 20% of the calories of my new total calories number (2307 from the cancer website) which is 133 additional calories per day for 5 days.
    That will get me to my new number of 2307, as my old number was 1648 .

    Question: WHEN do I get to add in dairy??

    Thanks so much for the advice!
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

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    PCDS 1 and 2: no carbs. PCDS 3 and 4: adding in carbs ((veggies come back then -- woo hoo!)).

    Use the carb re-introduction schedule in the guide (I think it's chapter 6) and you'll be okay. Just use your tracker and you'll be able to see how much to add in. I'm about to run off to lunch now myself...for PCDS 1 and 2, it's actually a little easier than when u add in carbs. It's essential that you use a tracker, as that will save your brain from a lot of thinking. I use the tracker in my signature (below).



    Quote Originally Posted by shannon741 View Post
    Ok so just the meats today, nothing else and same for Saturday and Sunday then? And about how much should I be eating?
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    Agreed!

    Many things that are inflammatory in P3 aren't so much a problem if u wait to re-introduce it in P4.

    How are you doing today, dear Pensee?



    Quote Originally Posted by Pensee View Post
    Danielle is right... sorry. I know how u feel. I love dairy, but u ve to make peace with the possibility that u might not b able to eat it or u might only b able to ve small quantities. But the later u reintroduce it the bigger the chance that ur body ll b o.k. with it. So hang in there.

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    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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    I have tried this netdiary thing and I am not sure how to work it to get the right foods and amounts of foods to get the calories/fats/proteins right, the whole site confuses the heck out of me! Can I just use myfitnesspal to track my calories/fat/proteins? And as far as macronutrients ......completely lost! Sorry don't mean to sound stupid but this is all foreign to me and I really am lost!

    Quote Originally Posted by GonnaLoseIt View Post
    PCDS 1 and 2: no carbs. PCDS 3 and 4: adding in carbs ((veggies come back then -- woo hoo!)).

    Use the carb re-introduction schedule in the guide (I think it's chapter 6) and you'll be okay. Just use your tracker and you'll be able to see how much to add in. I'm about to run off to lunch now myself...for PCDS 1 and 2, it's actually a little easier than when u add in carbs. It's essential that you use a tracker, as that will save your brain from a lot of thinking. I use the tracker in my signature (below).

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    Hello All - GonnaLoseIt, I've been following this thread and thought wow what a great tool this correction day..not thinking that I would need it, bc my first round and P3 went well, I stabilized (I lost 26lbs first time). Round 2, I had my ups and downs but overall lost 23lbs - okay great. P3 started off good (10/4), I never had a problem introducing dairy/nuts early..I was craving my greek yogurt and almonds had them immediately at the start of P3 stabilized perfectly in fact bc my TOM was on when I finished my round - I finished at 184 (I was up due to water retention) my lowest was 180.8 week before..so each each day start of P3 I continued to drop until I reached 181 on Sunday (10/7) - WOW!! so I figure you know this must be my true LDW..instead of 184 bc TOM was here..but then I got reckless..had friends over nibbled on chips, yikes, then I every day thereafter up until Wednesdday (10/10) nibbled on wintergreen lifesavers..I mean I ate 10-15 of them in a day..love the crunch and sugar..needless to say..weight jumped back to 184..I wasn't having it...I ran to this thread..followed the guidelines (chicken thighs and coffee) I was so sick of chicken by 6pm Thursday (10/11) and was down -2.0 this morning (Friday 10/12). Today, I am following the PCDS course from now on..with just chicken and hamburger...terrified bc tomorrow I want to see another loss more so than stabilization, I am getting greedy..but wanted to thank all and especially you for this information. Everyone posting their input is awesome!! thank you thank you thank you. I will post tomorrow on today's results. I am happy and no more lifesaver wintergreens (although they are soooo yummy) : ))
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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by shannon741 View Post
    My dad canned the salmon so it is pure natural fresh river caught salmon and nothing added to it. We don't have ghee or schmaltz in the stores where I live, rural small town with nothing! Can I use kerrygold butter instead? MCT oil?
    U can use kerrygold to make ur own ghee if u want. I always do that since organic ghee is so expensive here & there is no grass fed. Even if butter doesn't bother u (I am fine with it), ghee is great cause it doesn't burn as easily, so u can use it at far higher temp especially for things where the schmalz aroma would b rather disturbing.
    Just put the butter in a put on low-medium heat & let it melt. Leave it on low heat till it's clear. It will first form white 'froth' on the top, then the froth ll coagulate & turn brownish & sink to the bottom. Leave it to cool down a little, then pour off the fat, discarding the brownish residue.

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    AW: The Ultimate P3 Correction Day: I Lost 2.6 lbs on a Chicken Thigh Day!!!!!!!!!!

    The doc I saw yesterday had a booklet on some other docs nutrition recommendations. Since I figured that he is going to recommend a food regime along his lines when I go there on mo, I Googled it today. He is a German doc & it's all about healing intestinal autointoxication. Really interesting & goes against most stuff that anyone else says. In a nut shell: if we can't digest our good properly, what ever remains will b fermented by gut bacteria causing toxic cmpds (gases, alcohols, aromatic cmpds etc). These r absorbed & will activate our immune system & intoxicate the liver first. Until it can't cope anymore, then it will intoxicate all other organs as well & stimulate our gut immune system causing inflammation & autoimmune reactions.
    The interesting thing is, besides the usual recommendations of chewing really well, tasting every bite extensively, eating without distractions, etc is that he is totally against too much fibre. He says ppl with digestion problems should really reduce their wholegrains, veggies & fruits to bare minimum. Make everything really easily digestible by cooking & even pureeing if needed. Eat 6 mini meals throughout the day & here it comes: for induction (gut healing/ bringing down inflammation fast) he actually recommends 1-3 days of easy digestible meats (fish, poultry & veal) with butter, hwc or olive oil to up calories without adding bulk! I couldn't help but thinking of GLI & ctd/pcds!

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    you Dad cans his own!! lucky !
    Quote Originally Posted by shannon741 View Post
    My dad canned the salmon so it is pure natural fresh river caught salmon and nothing added to it. We don't have ghee or schmaltz in the stores where I live, rural small town with nothing! Can I use kerrygold butter instead? MCT oil?
    I am 5'4" 44 yo. Was stable at 123 last round, lost focus, back at 144.
    R1 1/11 Started at 170lbs got to 140. Another round 9/12 got to 123. Goal is to get back in that area and hold under 130.



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    moms - I love wintergreen lifesavers!! They are my frenemy.

    So have to give my hubby some love here .. he started dieting at about 1400-1600 cals a day I told him it was too low and he started running 4 miles 3-4 xs a week? He said he felt great and was never low on energy etc.. or if he was he would eat some protein and carbs then was OK. ??OK I guess if it is working for him then let him be. He lost on average .5 a day for 50 days really??!! I was on HCG during that time and would lose so much less, lol, he felt bad telling me what he lost. He is now where he wants to be at 196 and is 63. So long story short thanks to GLI he will increase his cals 20% a day (the diff between old cals and new) until his body is happy and up to what his body needs thanks again to GLI we had a plan and if I had not read that he would probably just start eating more gained dieted again you know the yo-yo!!
    I am 5'4" 44 yo. Was stable at 123 last round, lost focus, back at 144.
    R1 1/11 Started at 170lbs got to 140. Another round 9/12 got to 123. Goal is to get back in that area and hold under 130.



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    He canned it just for me last year after I finished my 2nd round and was doing the leptin RX. He fishes constantly adn always has a ton so I asked him if he would can it for me and he did up 22 pints for me and I have about 10 left and at this rate they are going to go fast! I love to dice up onion and dill pickle and a TBS of mayo and eat it on celery...it is so nummy and fresh! My dad is awesome he cans me all kinds of foods like fresh tuna, pickles, green beans, smoked sturgeon he is the best and I am spoiled!

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    you Dad cans his own!! lucky !

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    Pensee Jack Kruse has a web site(www.jackkruse.com) with stuff about healing your gut and he says the say thing pretty much as your Dr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pensee View Post
    The doc I saw yesterday had a booklet on some other docs nutrition recommendations. Since I figured that he is going to recommend a food regime along his lines when I go there on mo, I Googled it today. He is a German doc & it's all about healing intestinal autointoxication. Really interesting & goes against most stuff that anyone else says. In a nut shell: if we can't digest our good properly, what ever remains will b fermented by gut bacteria causing toxic cmpds (gases, alcohols, aromatic cmpds etc). These r absorbed & will activate our immune system & intoxicate the liver first. Until it can't cope anymore, then it will intoxicate all other organs as well & stimulate our gut immune system causing inflammation & autoimmune reactions.
    The interesting thing is, besides the usual recommendations of chewing really well, tasting every bite extensively, eating without distractions, etc is that he is totally against too much fibre. He says ppl with digestion problems should really reduce their wholegrains, veggies & fruits to bare minimum. Make everything really easily digestible by cooking & even pureeing if needed. Eat 6 mini meals throughout the day & here it comes: for induction (gut healing/ bringing down inflammation fast) he actually recommends 1-3 days of easy digestible meats (fish, poultry & veal) with butter, hwc or olive oil to up calories without adding bulk! I couldn't help but thinking of GLI & ctd/pcds!

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