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    Exclamation Weight gain on phase 3

    This is my third round of HCG injections and I've hit a problem I can't figure out.

    Side note - lost 30 pounds each on round 1 and 25 pounds on round 2, 49 day programs, stabilized within liw. Did 25 days for round 3 - just no time in the calendar to fit in more right now - lost 15 pounds. I have previously been the poster child for following the program exactly and getting awesome, solid results.

    So, I am in phase 3 - 13 days in. My first week was fine. I was sick as dog the first three days, which is typical when I reintroduce fats - I think my gallbladder hates it when I do that. But everything was fine. I start off only adding eggs, then a little cream in the eggs, then provolone cheese. I keep eating lots of meat and allowable vegetables. I make a smoothie from strawberries and peaches using stevia by the cup as a sweetener.

    For the past week I have steadily been gaining two pounds on a normal day and a steak day results only in a one pound loss. (So I net gain a pound a day.) I drink plenty of water. I am currently up six pounds from my last injection weight! I have NO idea what I am doing wrong! I did introduce sugar free peanut butter seven days in, but I haven't had it since. It's been 5 days so that should be gone, I would think.

    I keep track of every morsel that enters my mouth on fitday and my calories are between 1500 - 1900. Which is appropriate for my current weight of 145 (well, it's 151 now, but I am up 6 pounds, remember?)

    Here is a sample diet:
    Breakfast:1 egg omelet with 1/2 slice provolone cheese cooked in 1/4th Tbsp. butter and a tomato
    5 strawberries and half a peach smoothie made with 1/8th cup cream, stevia by the cup, water and icecubes

    Lunch: 5 ounces of hamburger, lettuce, cucumbers, tomato 1/2 slice colby jack cheese or provolone cheese (sort of a taco salad or a bunless burger
    another smoothie - 5 strawberries, half a peach, 1/8th cup cream, stevia by the cup, etc. Sometimes I add a bunch of spinach.

    Snack: cacao tea sweetened with stevia and/or a cheese stick and/or cocoa crack - I use butter in phase 3 and coconut oil only in phase 4, unsweetened cocoa, and stevia by the cup

    Dinner: 8 - 12 ounces steak, zucchini cooked in olive oil and/or green beans, asparagus, more salad, etc.

    After dinner treat (if calories and time allow) - I make homemade icecream out of cream, stevia by the cup, unsweetened cocoa, eggs, and water. I only eat as much as I have calories left - if that makes sense?

    I only drink water - or the cacao tea. I know I am a boring eater, but what can I say? I like everything I eat!

    After all that - here's the summary - I am doing the same thing I always have and once I had peanut butter, I just went up and continue to go up in spite of the steak days and (I think) relatively clean eating. I was up, so I had a steak day, I lost one pound. I ate the above and the next day I was up 2 pounds. Have a steak day, lost one pound. Eat the above, gain two pounds, repeat. I'm on my 4th steak day in a row (alternately every other day) and I don't see an end in sight.

    I desperately hope that someone here has an idea - all the other threads I've read involved cheating on phase 3 or TOM or constipation and I don't have any of that - just an unrelenting upward spiral of weight gain.

    I should add that I HATE dark meat chicken and I really hate the skin so that is not a correction day option. I tried an egg day in Round one and my gall bladder really hated me, I was super sick (I did lose more weight but it was dreadful). I avoid salad dressings - they all make me gain, and any mayo - again with the gall bladder.

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    First of all, I feel for you on this! It's terrible to work so hard and then not be able to maintain.

    I am by no means an expert, but I have a couple of thoughts. The first red flag is that if you're eating the same meals each time and the meals always results in a 2 pound gain, there's something in those meals that your body doesn't like. I've read that even if your body was okay with something on one or two rounds, it might not be on the current round.

    The second thought I had is that maybe you are having too much dairy and not enough protien. Could you try upping your protien servings and omitting some dairy and/or fruit? Personally, I am very sensitive to fruit and I will gain if I eat it.

    I hope that you're able to experiment, figure out what the problem is, and then fix it.

    Good luck!
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    That's a good idea, Zoerba. Thanks so much for taking the time to read this and answer. I will try less fruit and dairy for starters. It just seems weird that I could eat it the first week without any trouble and then bam! All sorts of disasters. Leave it to me to find something odd.
    FutureFormerFattie
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    Round 2 49 day HCGinj 25 pound loss - 185 to 160
    Round 3 25 day HCGinj 15 pound loss - 160 to 145 Currently in phase 3 and struggling to stabilize.

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    My homeopath told me that she sees much better stabilization from 30+ day rounds. So maybe that's why? I do see a lot of dairy in there, so maybe the peanut butter (not p3 friendly) put you over the edge? I'd do strict p2 foods for a couple of days and see if that helps, then do your best to figure out the culprit. How frustrating! I really hope the gaining stops soon!

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    I've wondered if it's because I did a 25 day round. I just couldn't fit 30 days in! I use sugar free peanut butter. The only ingredient is peanuts. I was told that was a P3 approved food, if it's a few days in and you don't have trouble with it.

    I have decided to do two or three correction days in a row and see if that kicks my body around some. I have also not eaten as much dairy. I wish I liked more meat . Thanks for your help!
    FutureFormerFattie
    Round 1 49 day HCGinj 30 pound loss - 215 to 185
    Round 2 49 day HCGinj 25 pound loss - 185 to 160
    Round 3 25 day HCGinj 15 pound loss - 160 to 145 Currently in phase 3 and struggling to stabilize.

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    The PB may be your problem! Peanuts are technically a legume, which are a no-no on P3. Try almond butter instead.
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    I’m certainly no expert (having my own P3 issues) but I eat TWICE as much protein as you do (if that is your typical daily menu – I have 2 or 3 eggs, plus bacon for breakfast; a minimum of 6 oz. of protein for lunch plus some low-carb veg & much more than that for dinner) and nearly no dairy – cream in coffee & about 2 oz. of shredded cheese is it for me each day.

    I was gaining a bit my first two weeks (see my numbers below) and cut out fruit completely, as well as the 3 or 4 Tsp. of sunflower seeds I was having as a snack. (Dang, I love those!) I’m finally back to 1 lb. over my LDW of 197 (day of last drops). Of course, we are all different, but that process is starting to work for me (I think!).

    Please post how your correction days go – very interested to know!!


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    I know this is an old post but if there are others on here who read a lot of the posts to stay motivated I wanted to address the slow gains issue. We know that for phase 3 we don't do sugar or starch and I learned in phase 2 to always check labels. Stevia in the raw has both starches and sugar so my guess is that's why the gains...just checking. Hope it gets better and don't make assumptions on any packaged foods, stevia included.



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    Quote Originally Posted by moosh55 View Post
    I know this is an old post but if there are others on here who read a lot of the posts to stay motivated I wanted to address the slow gains issue. We know that for phase 3 we don't do sugar or starch and I learned in phase 2 to always check labels. Stevia in the raw has both starches and sugar so my guess is that's why the gains...just checking. Hope it gets better and don't make assumptions on any packaged foods, stevia included.
    Totally agree! Lots of hidden things in those sugar subs that aren't just Stevia in the ingredients. Very tricky. I bet the lack of protein and too much dairy was probably part of the issue as well. Love to hear an update on how it went last Spring for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosh55 View Post
    I know this is an old post but if there are others on here who read a lot of the posts to stay motivated I wanted to address the slow gains issue. We know that for phase 3 we don't do sugar or starch and I learned in phase 2 to always check labels. Stevia in the raw has both starches and sugar so my guess is that's why the gains...just checking. Hope it gets better and don't make assumptions on any packaged foods, stevia included.
    I totally disagree the point that stevia has sugar or starches. If your package says so than you have a less quality version.

    My stevia says as ingrecients: stevia(leaf) - Other ingredients: None

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    Yes Elvis, I do see your stevia is perfect! The ones to lookout for are "stevia in the raw" stevia with glycerin(that"s a sugar) Stevia with maltodextrin( sugar &starch) just saying don't take it for granted that if it's labeled stevia make sure that's ALL it is. I gained five #over the course of 3 days until I checked my stevia's ingredients. The first ingredient was vegetable glycerin. That's suuuuuuger. Just sayin.



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    I would agree on with the others on a couple of points.
    One...each time you "diet" on HCG and then start on P3 your body may see each new food differently than in the past. No real explanation for it but I have seen it myself.
    Two..even in "Pounds and Inches" Dr. Simeons is clear that too little protein in P3 can and will cause water retention (i.e., weight gain). Here is a quote:

    "Here too, the explanation is quite simple. During treatment the patient has been only just above the verge of protein deficiency and has had the advantage of protein being fed back into his system from the breakdown of fatty tissue. Once the treatment is over there is no more HCG in the body and this process no longer takes place. Unless an adequate amount of protein is eaten as soon as the treatment is over, protein deficiency is bound to develop, and this inevitably causes the marked retention of water known as hunger- edema.



    The treatment is very simple. The patient is told to eat two eggs for breakfast and a huge steak for lunch and dinner followed by a large helping of cheese and to phone through the weight the next morning. When these instructions are followed a stunned voice is heard to report that two lbs. have vanished overnight, that the ankles are normal but that sleep was disturbed, owing to an extraordinary need to pass large quantities of water. The patient having learned this lesson usually has no further trouble."

    Three...cheese might by a problem for you as well as the fruit. You seem to have a lot of both in your diet. I would back off on both for 4-5 days and along with increasing your protein from meat sources, see what happens.

    Good luck to you P3 is the most difficult part to me.


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    My problem is a carbohydrate addiction that gets out of control after several months of maintaining my new weight. I guess the saying about the definition of insanity would be my mantra ...i.e., doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. This time will be different....I will stay "bad grain" free and sugar free.

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