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    You got an excellent result from you cleanse even without tomorrow's weigh in. Bravo! I think the recipes are all really tasty. I still make some of them regularly even when not doing the Plan. I think the temp is a really important piece of the puzzle. It will often tell you you have a reaction when there are no other definite signs.

    In reading around, I've found reports from people that say they don't follow the 45 minute wait before meals exactly. Some have done 30minutes and even 15 and found that they still can get useful data. I found that about 20 minutes was right for me. And the first time I went through it, that rule hadn't even been made yet.
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    Day 4 225.2 BBT 96.77
    Day 5 223.6 BBT 96.2
    I can't believe the results I am getting on this. As bad as I felt 5 days ago is how good I feel now.
    Will post more later!

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    Day 6 222.8 BBT 96.44 8 hours sleep

    10 pounds in 5 days. Eating real food. I am over the moon and wearing jeans that I could not wear less than a week ago. I feel triumphant and vindicated, but also cautious because I think this means I have a lot to figure out. Almonds, chicken, and goat cheese seem ok, yay! I was supposed to test exercise yesterday, but the day got away from me and I did not want to exercise too late at night. It ended up being a friendly day BUT due to my schedule I skipped lunch. Tonight is a steak test. I am following the online version of the plan now. Dandelion root tea has grown on me and now it tastes like unsweetened slightly burnt caramel corn. I am having some each day.

    I take my thyroid medicine in the morning, and I have been taking it with the morning lemon water and then waiting to have breakfast. Not sure if it is ok to take it with the lemon water, need to look into that.

    Day 3 menu - test chicken
    B: flax granola with blueberries and rice milk
    L: baby romaine with carrots and pumpkin seeds and EVOO and lemon juice
    S: plan trail mix 1/8 cup sunflower seeds and 1/8 cup craisins
    D: 3 ounces of chicken over baby romaine, EVOO and lemon juice and oven roasted veggies: zucchini, broccoli garlic and onions

    Day 4 - test cheese
    B: flax granola with diced pear and rice milk
    L: Leftover roasted veg over baby romaine, EVOO and lemon juice with pumpkin seeds and goat cheese (straight up nirvana yummmm)
    S:I forget oops
    D: chicken, butter lettuce with carrots and 1/4 avocado, EVOO and lemon juice and sauteed broccoli and yellow squash

    Day 5 - was supposed to test exercise
    B (late): TMP smoothie 1 ripe pear, 1/2 cup blueberries, 1/4 avocado, 1/4 cup chia, rice milk, 1 t honey, 1 splash vanilla
    L: skipped
    S: almonds and an apple
    D: chicken over baby romaine with EVOO and lemon juice and sauteed leeks, zucchini and yellow squash with 1/2 oz manchego

    Day 6 - test steak
    B: blueberry compote (not bad)
    L: baby romaine with apple, 1/4 avocado, pumpkin seeds, 1 oz goat cheese, EVOO and lemon juice
    S: plan trail mix 1/8 cup sunflower seeds and 1/8 cup craisins
    D: steak! roasted delicata, kale and onions and carrot salad with EVOO and lemon juice

    Tomorrow - unsalted potato chips! (and hopefully an actual exercise test). Salty potato chips are an addiction to me so I am curious to see how it works out.

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    Also, this plan feels like magic to me right now and I want to hug LGR.

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    Grammy thinks the potato chip thing is a bad idea. I tried it, but unsalted potato chips are not something I would care to eat regularly, so I don't use them. I did find that I can use roasted plantain chips instead, and they are a friendly food for me. And they are salted.

    You are really rocking this plan, hallie. I'm so happy for you! I bet you are going to find out that something you would never have thought of, that you eat all the time is one of your sensitive foods. I was shocked by some of the things I found out. Cauliflower, caraway seeds and celery were some of my problem foods. And lamb. Which I thought was one of the safest meats you could eat. Years ago, I was on a gut healing protocol and it was based on lamb and rice. I also reacted to black rice. So nothing is sacred, it seems.
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    Thanks, Leez.

    I agree with Grammy about the chips being a bad idea (aren't industrial fried foods notoriously inflammatory? and potatoes are
    nightshades to boot...), and I would never choose unsalted potato chips in a million years as a snack, and yet I am still going to have faith in LGR and try them today. lol I really love plantain chips, though, so I will have to test them for next time.

    Day 7 - test exercise 4-6 minutes beginner

    222.2 BBT 96.32 steak and delicata squash ok
    My husband is away on travel, and even though I think of myself as an independent woman it impacted my sleep and I only got about 6 hours of sleep. In other news, I think the smell of onions and garlic is coming out of my pores.

    Mixing up the menu a bit from the recommendation but keeping it friendly, mainly just switching lunch for favorite lunch salad.

    B: flax granola with blueberries and rice milk
    L: Leftover roasted veg (onion, delicata, kale) over baby romaine, EVOO and lemon juice with pumpkin seeds and goat cheese
    S: 1 oz unsalted potato chips
    D: Roasted chicken thigh, sautéed broccoli and zucchini, baby romaine, carrots and pear with EVOO, lemon juice

    In my cube at work:
    1 minute squats
    30 seconds jumping jacks
    1 minute toe kicks
    1 minute lunges
    Downward dog

    ETA: I forgot! For the last two nights I had an ounce of WF 56% dark chocolate after dinner. I prefer milk chocolate, but still, chocolate. lol I am skipping the allowed wine because I am not much of a drinker. Also did not add coffee.

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    Tomorrow is test a new protein day and I have a problem. The options are: beef, lamb, whitefish, duck breast, or eggs. I have already passed chicken and steak. I am allergic to fish and shellfish. I think eggs are not working for me after my last round of hcg. And I don't care for lamb or duck. Other protein choices I would typically favor are chick peas (10% reactive) or pork (60% reactive). Should I make a chick pea patty to test?

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    I would test whatever protein you want to be able to eat and ignore the reactive numbers.

    Its easy to let those scare you off, but you could just as easily be in the 40% that don't react to pork as in the 60% that do. So from that standpoint, they are basically meaningless. If you happen to be in the 10% that react to chickpeas, then its not a "safer" choice.
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    Day 8
    223.8 BBT 96.41
    First day with a gain.
    Variables:
    1. Potato chips for snack yesterday
    2. Tested exercise yesterday
    3. Scale batteries died this morning so I replaced them
    4. Ate dinner very late last night

    I am happy that the gain came on an exercise day! hahha Going to try not to stress about it and keep chugging along. Chips are out for now and potatoes will have to be tested in the future. I guess I will do the same exact “workout” on the next exercise test day, but frankly, I am much more interested in the food part of TMP than the exercise part right now. When I first stepped on the scale after I changed the batteries it said 227 something and I hopped off like it was hot lava. The scale I have self-calibrates so if it is weighing differently than before I am hopefully just starting now with a new baseline. The scale still had the original batteries in it and that thing gets a workout! lol

    menu (a smidge rogue mixing up the menu again today to account for ingredients on hand, hopefully still within the guidelines)
    B: blueberry compote
    L: basil escarole soup with manchego, shredded carrots with pumpkin seeds and raisins and EVOO and lemon juice
    S: apple and almonds
    D: TBD (test a new protein)

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    I find that I do better with exercise like gentle stretching or walking. Those activities actually invigorate me and I enjoy them because of that. Weight training, aerobics, or intensity type excercise is not sustainable for me because it makes me feel bad--both while doing it and afterwards. So I feel like I've already know my optimum exercises even though I haven't done the Plan version that includes them for testing.

    I don't trust self-calibration. If I have any question, I recalibrate by letting the scale zero out, turn off, and then I re-weigh. Then I check against an old spring scale to be sure.

    In the end, the actual number isn't important. Just the change from day to day, so I hope you are still seeing good things from that standpoint.
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    Love following your experiments, hallie. You're doing fantastic! Keep it up!

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    Hi, Natalie! Thanks for checking in.

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