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    Definitely try skipping every 5th day. It couldn’t hurt to try and it worked well for me. I’ve heard of people going as low as .80 subq, so maybe you could adjust slightly lower. I don’t know about the hhcg being less potent (I thought that too before I tried it), BUT it does work completely different in that it makes your body produce hcg, so MAYBE a different delivery method would work better for you. There is an adjustment period where you have to figure out your dose though, so I might not try hhcg until my next round if I were you after all you’ve been going through. I would try skipping sooner or lowering dose slightly first, or maybe both since you can’t skip again yet...you could lower a smidge tmw & thurs and see if it makes a difference, then skip Friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsWoody View Post
    Leez, I forgot to mention I did have a discussion with Grammy before adjusting my dose down and she confirmed my thought that I should lower and said she has seen this before, but not often and not as much as I seem to require. Again...I’m an anomaly. I wish that was a good thing.

    I'm glad you contacted her. I think the guidance the jgd is giving you makes sense to try.

    Or, maybe your "feel goods" from today will continue and you won't have to do anything drastic. Let's hope so!

    Also thanks for passing along Grammy's response to your email. Having that thought on the record here may be helpful to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justgitterdone View Post
    Definitely try skipping every 5th day. It couldnít hurt to try and it worked well for me. Iíve heard of people going as low as .80 subq, so maybe you could adjust slightly lower. I donít know about the hhcg being less potent (I thought that too before I tried it), BUT it does work completely different in that it makes your body produce hcg, so MAYBE a different delivery method would work better for you. There is an adjustment period where you have to figure out your dose though, so I might not try hhcg until my next round if I were you after all youíve been going through. I would try skipping sooner or lowering dose slightly first, or maybe both since you canít skip again yet...you could lower a smidge tmw & thurs and see if it makes a difference, then skip Friday
    I am one of those people who went to .80 subq and that is when I switched to IM and at 125 was great so I thought I had found my magic bullet and was all set to sail through this round at 125 IM again. That was almost one year ago. In past subq rounds I would start at whatever dose I ended at in the last round and inevitably that would be too high no matter how much time had passed. Interesting about the hhcg and finding it isnít less potent and that it makes your body produce HCG - I wondered how it worked if it was so diluted. But yes, I wonder if MAYBE that would work better for me. Itís certainly preferable to thinking of never being able to use HCG again since I still have issues with thyroid levels and staying optimal there. But even when my thyroid levels are good for awhile I am still not able to lose weight without HCG. And if I try strenuous exercise then my adrenals tank and I gain weight. Im cursed. I agree that fiddling with anything right now or changing the method is not a good idea given the circumstances. I really donít want to mess anything up more than it already is or has been and desired/ideal state is to be able to see this round through with IM, stabilize, then maybe try the alternate method in the fall to get the last (hopefully) chunk of weight off. Then hopefully itís a good long while before my thyroid goes wonky again and I can maintain for a decent stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    I'm glad you contacted her. I think the guidance the jgd is giving you makes sense to try.

    Or, maybe your "feel goods" from today will continue and you won't have to do anything drastic. Let's hope so!

    Also thanks for passing along Grammy's response to your email. Having that thought on the record here may be helpful to others.
    Thanks Leez, I am glad too. Sheís such a wealth of information and Iím grateful she is still willing to spend time answering questions.

    Yes! It is my fervent and desperate hope that the ďfeel goodsĒ from today will continue and nothing drastic will be needed. If it was just one ďoff dayĒ that canít be explained, I will take it!

    Youíre welcome. Especially given that this is such a rare occurrence I thought it should be recorded in case there is even just one more anomaly out there like me that my trials & tribulations can help. You, Grammy and the other mods and contributors have helped me learn so much on this journey, itís the least I can do to try and help return the favor in some small way.

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    Another thing from Grammyís email regarding lowering my dose. While I also recall that .80 is the lowest possible accepted dose to continue to be effective, she indicated that she wouldnít lower IM to more than .44 (110iu based on how I mixed - 2000iu with 8ml bac water). BUT, given that itís generally accepted (and previously proven) that 125 works for nearly everyone when doing IM, and if not a much smaller adjustment is needed for only a few, I wonder if that is really true and ***maybe*** ***possibly*** I could get away with slightly less. I guess I could be the test case for that as well and if it doesnít work then Iím still in the same spot and no worse off because the higher dose didnít work either. Things to ponder....

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    If you try it and you have no hunger, you know it was a success. I don’t think you have anything to lose by trying it at this point (except pounds and inches :-))

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    Quote Originally Posted by justgitterdone View Post
    If you try it and you have no hunger, you know it was a success. I donít think you have anything to lose by trying it at this point (except pounds and inches :-))
    Yep! Thatís what I was thinking too. Thanks again for your help and input!

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    Okay, I'm confused. I'm doing HHCG drops, 10 drops 3x day. I am on day 3 of P2 and I have been experiencing some hunger issues. I thought it was because I'm trying to adjust my eating schedule and drop schedule with a busy work day. It seems what I'm reading here is that you adjust your dose down? for hunger issues. I'm also having hunger issues shortly after eating. Any clarification would help. I can deal with the mild hunger and my weight loss has been very good.
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    You are partially right. Most adjustments need to be made downward. However, you should not just adjust without skipping to find out which way to adjust, because hunger can be caused by both a too high dose, or a too low dose.

    With homeopathic hhcg, you only need to skip your first two doses of the day.

    Skip your first and second sets of drops tomorrow, and by the late afternoon to early evening you will have your answer. If hunger increases, then increase your drops by 2 each set. If hunger abates, then lower your dose by 2 drops each set. Start your adjustment at the last set of drops for that day.

    Its especially important not to assume you need to take less for hunger when taking homeopathic drops because the 10 drops 3X day is generally on the low side of dosing, and many find they will need to increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    You are partially right. Most adjustments need to be made downward. However, you should not just adjust without skipping to find out which way to adjust, because hunger can be caused by both a too high dose, or a too low dose.

    With homeopathic hhcg, you only need to skip your first two doses of the day.

    Skip your first and second sets of drops tomorrow, and by the late afternoon to early evening you will have your answer. If hunger increases, then increase your drops by 2 each set. If hunger abates, then lower your dose by 2 drops each set. Start your adjustment at the last set of drops for that day.

    Its especially important not to assume you need to take less for hunger when taking homeopathic drops because the 10 drops 3X day is generally on the low side of dosing, and many find they will need to increase.
    Thank you for clarifying that for me. I will give a try tomorrow.

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    Hi just,

    I'm using Intermountain pellets and have had bad hunger issues the last two rounds. This round I'm doing 2 pellets 4X/day and doing much better with hunger.

    I remember reading Grammy saying whether your hunger is afternoon or evening factors into upping or decreasing dosage but I can't find that post. I definitely had afternoon hunger which would subside in the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misscast View Post
    Hi just,

    I'm using Intermountain pellets and have had bad hunger issues the last two rounds. This round I'm doing 2 pellets 4X/day and doing much better with hunger.

    I remember reading Grammy saying whether your hunger is afternoon or evening factors into upping or decreasing dosage but I can't find that post. I definitely had afternoon hunger which would subside in the evening.
    On hhcg, skip 2 doses out of your daily 3. By the early evening of your skip day, take notice of your hunger level. If it is lower to non-existent, that indicates your dose is too high. If your hunger increases noticeably in the evening, it means your dose is too low.
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