Thread: Lover Losers - March'ing On!

Originally Posted by shiningthru

Hi forum, hcg ers and hhcg ers!

Some on the regular forum may remember me from a few years ago. I did Rx injections and I was a regular on Grammys threads and some others. I am back and seriously thinking about doing hcg again. I had a challenging time my first (only) round. I lost very well but realized too late that my dose was quite off and so I ended up losing weight in areas that I didn't want (face,boobs) and afterwards I had some issues with edema (swelling) in my legs. I learned that I'm more sensitive than most to medication. My weight has been up and down since hcg. I have been able to lose weight normally after hcg, it took a lil while for my body to normalize. Now I may gain a bit easier but I'm also 45... so things change with that anyway. I do still deal with food emotionally and I'm working on the deep issues related to that and in the mean time i want to feel and look better.

So I have a wedding coming up and I really want to get back down to a weight I'm happy with. I have about 20 lbs to lose. I would love some feedback on doing another round, either Rx or hhcg. I didn't have this forum when I started before so I'm hoping for the best. I wonder if homeopathic would be better for me, or just being smarter on the rx this time and I'm thinking it's also possible I won't be quite as sensitive the second time.

Thanks, Kim(shiningthru)

I prefer homeopathic drops, though I have also tried injections.

Originally Posted by johnnysangel99

Good Morning all .....I need some insight, please.

I have been sugar/starch/grain free for the past 4 months, maintained from last round but not able to drop anymore weight.
Have done two successful rounds of hcg drops, last one last fall. (lost 19 lbs in 23 days.) Would like to lose another 5lbs. this round, then resume my sugar/starch/grain free lifestyle going into PH3.

I am on VLCD23 and have lost 15 lbs. I know this averages out to over -.5 a day, and I should be happy, but am getting frustrated because of hunger.

-8 the first week then -3.5 average week 2, then another -3.5 week 3. I am continuously having 3-5 day stalls and have fought with hunger since day 1. I have consulted with Grammy (she's been great), and have done the "protocol" way of adjusting drops, but nothing seems to change, still hungry. More than I think I should be, and I'm in another 3 day stall.

I have followed protocol to the letter. But I think the issue is my drops aren't working. I purchased them from Buckeye Nutritional and just haven't felt they were legit from the beginning.

They say they have hcg with 6x 12x 30x 60x but also have aminos in them which are listed first in the ingredients (L-arginine, L-carnitine, L-ornithine, L-tyrosine 3x 6x 12x 30x). My past 2 rounds I used another brand that I did great with, but are off of the market and no longer available.

My question is: Has anyone else used these drops? And what brand would you recommend? I was already planning on "taking a break" after 30 days of drops while on vacation next week, then starting drops and PH2 for another 14 days when we get back.

But, I'm thinking of stopping the drops today (I've had 24 days of drops). This will give me 14 days without any before I resume after vacation. Which is the legal limit according to DR S without having to load again.

Any thoughts? Maybe built up a tolerance since I went the 23 days, and a planned break may help if I resume with the same drops?

I totally believe in hcg, and I'm not a quitter. I've been pushing though this, and haven't had weakness or fatigue, but I will admit I've been mentally kicking and screaming through this round and I didn't through my other two.

Thanks!

My thought is this: Usually a dose too high causes extreme hunger and weakness, but a dose TOO LOW causes moderate hunger or temptation. . . in my opinion. In fact I had that happen to me this round, where I was up and down all of week 2 due to minor cheats or *stretching* the protocol. I added one drop to each of my doses and that seemed to resolve it for me. Then I read the bottle and found I had been under dosing by taking 5 drops, 3 times a day, when it should have been 4 times a day. Now I am up to 4 times a day and doing much better. No hunger.

So in a nutshell, I think your drops look fine, it doesn't matter what order the ingredients are listed, as my hcg is listed last. Amino acids are fine as mine sometimes have them. I think your dose is just too low. JMO

Originally Posted by johnnysangel99

Thank you!! Those are my thoughts, too. I am losing in the right areas, so that part is good. Probably just not strong enough. Do you think I should increase the dose a little? I did take the drops this a.m., and decided to continue a few more days. I'm not dying here LOL, just wining and hungry! I also changed my menu for today, strict POP but changed a few foods to "confuse" my body.

That is why I think your dose is too low. Not dying, just whining and hungry.

Originally Posted by CAD

Thanks the warm welcome and feedback! I will keep drinking as much as possible however 1 oz for 1/2 of my body weight doesn't sound like it is possible!

My brother's wedding is this weekend. From what I understand, alcohol is prohibited on the diet. Am I right? In the event I do drink, (who am I kidding, I am going to drink), what can I do for damage control?

This diet does not call for 1 oz per 2 lbs of body weight. It only calls for 2 liters of water per day. As for alcohol, cabernet is good, or vodka with lime and club soda or some other calorie free mixer. HTH

Originally Posted by LolaNoodle

luncheon was awful I fell off track big time. They served chicken & spinach. I requested no sauce on chicken, picked around the cheese it was stuffed with, etc. I was doing so well! Then they brought out the chocolate cake and it was over I had a HUGE slice of chocolate cake with decadent frosting AND ice-cream. Then I felt so guilty & ashamed I came home & ate an entire package of prosciutto. I'm really, really disappointed in myself. Back on track tomorrow. I have 3 1/2 weeks left & I need to make the most of it b/c at this rate, I won't fit into my jeans at the end of the round

Let it go. There is nothing to feel bad about. Guilt causes weight gain. Just know what the consequence is. . . probably lost three days, maybe 4, so don't weigh for 3 days. I agree that once you ate the cake and ice cream, you might as well eat the proscuitto! Right? Duh! If you are going to eat the food and suffer the consequences, you might as well saver it while you can. Always enjoy your food.

Originally Posted by MzHCGSuccess2014

Hey peep. After a wonderful weekend in the city, I'm up 3 lbs and I have the blues. I wanted so much to stay in the 220's but now I'm in the 230's... I'm 231. I can't seem to pick my head up.

Not sure if I'll start my next round this week. I'm feeling lost.

Four lbs is very small. I agree, it could become a slippery slope if you don't take care of it, so have you tried a steak day? I would think it could be fluid or inflammation and may be gone in a few days. Stress causes weight gain, so take a deep breath and figure out a plan, and move forward. Be happy you are at 231 instead of 281. You are doing great!

AFM: I was up .5 after the 2 lb drop yesterday, so I just attribute that to my body normalizing to the 2 lbs. I hope to be down at least another lb tomorrow. I had an apple around 2, a kombucha around 4 and CHipotle around 6 and that is it for the day. I had a NAET treatment today for 4 of my supplements. One of the supplements I'm allergic to is magnesium citrate. . .darn. I have taken up to 5 mag tabets a day, trying to easy my constipation, and it was not even consistently effective. When you are allergic to a supplement, it often doesn't work for you, and I htink that is what happened here. Hopefully it will work after the treatment. I have been taking two per day, plus a cup of smooth move tea, and that has been my fix.

Originally Posted by johnnysangel99

Thanks Lynne ~ that's actually what I am going to do. I was thinking about it today and that is the conclusion I came to, too. Dose is too low. I did add just a touch more protein and switched my menu around! That seemed to help. I'll increase the drops by 1 per/dose and see how it goes. I'd like to keep going until the 30 days like I had initially planned, if I can get the dosing adjusted. Still 15 lbs lost in 3 weeks, so not all for nothing ..... that's for sure!

Good I'm glad to hear it. 15 lbs is still great, and more than many folks lose. Goodluck.