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    How much should I reduce NP Thyroid in Phase 2?

    Hi Grammy,

    I hope you are doing great. I am back for my final rounds, I hope. I am planning to load this weekend. Last round I never really stabilized. My thyroid tanked and my Hashimotos just went wild. My family doctor was unconvinced it was related to HCG, but had no answers.

    I remember that you reduced your thyroid medication while on HCG, and I clearly need to do that. I never have because I am not sure how much of a reduction to do! I am also a chicken! I donít want to reduce it too much and stall on the diet. I do know that my lab levels really are affected by HCG. My family doctor said just do what I think is comfortable, and come in for tests if I want. So no real answers. Currently I take 90 mg NP Thyroid every day, except on Wednesday and Saturday I take 1/2 of a 90. So I take a weekly dose of 540 mg. Do you just cut one more whole pill to a half? Think about a 10% reduction or??? Thank you for any advice you can give me. I think part of the reason I have such P3 stabilization problems is my thyroid get so out of wack on HCG. Last round I could really tell my NP Thyroid was too high from physical symptoms and lab results, and thatís probably because I needed to reduce my NP thyroid to keep it stable with the HCG boost.

    Thank you for any advice you can give me. I really need to address my stabilization issue for long term success. I just feel really lost.

    Warm Wishes,
    RK

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    I usually reduce mine by about 25-30% when on hcg. You can usually tell by how you feel though. Pay attention to heart flutters and fatigue or hair loss.
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    Thanks Grammy! I will do that! Do you suggest I reduce my dose right away or wait until I have the hhcg in my system fully for a week or until I see the "too high a dose of NP Thyroid --for me it's a racing heart and a bit of a tremor? Do you go back up right away when you start P3?

    Thank you so much! Also that Adrenal supplement has helped me! So thank you for recommending that. Funny story: I had too much B-12 because I was taking a B complex, sublingual B-12 and multivitamin. My dumb error. My doctor was impressed that I absorb things so well! Now the doctor has me alternate the B Complex and the multivitamin. They also increased my Vitamin D so that also helps...I hope...

    I really believe that once I get my thyroid meds adjusted during the round and after it will help resolve my stabilization issue. Thank you for answering my questions on that. I really appreciate your brilliant insight.

    Warm Wishes,
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    Oh you're using hhcg? You may not have to lower your dose then. Glad that adrenal supplement helped!

    Just to be clear, how do you know you were taking too much B12? If a blood test showed a high B12, it's possible it's actually still low and is pooling and not being absorbed by the body. If you lack the intrinsic factor like I do, only methyl B12 can be absorbed right. Just throwing that out there.
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    Hi Grammy,

    Thank you for your help!

    About 2 years ago my DO Osteopath doctor ran micronutrient tests and did the tests for intrinsic factor. Surprisingly I don’t need to have B-12 methylated, supposedly I absorb it fine. However, it is methylated in the sublingual I was taking. In August my internist ran blood tests and tested my B-12 levels and I was way too high. It made sense because I was getting it from so many supplements. So now I am more careful to alternate B complex and Multivitamin on different days. But I will call the DO and get clarification in case she suspects any pooling. That is an interesting point.

    Thank you for the clarification on the NP Thyroid dose. I will just watch for symptoms and adjust accordingly and not be so stubborn ha ha. It seems to be mid round when I notice those too high symptoms. This time I will adjust my dose when that occurs and then go back up when I enter P 3. Thank you again for your advice.
    Take Care and I really enjoy your books!
    RK

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    sounds good! and just to be clear, you really can't overdose on B12. Your body flushes out the Bs. So it's not harmful.
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    Thank You! Good to know! I did not realize that!

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    HI Grammy!

    Just a quick update. I developed symptoms of too much NP Thyroid last week. I had them all--heart flutters, fatigue, hair loss, etc. I immediately reduced my medication by 22%. I felt better and still feel great with no fatigue and no more hair loss on the new dose. Once I end this round I will go back up to my usual dose. Thank you for coaching about watching my dose of NP Thyroid! I feel so good now and confident that I have solved a piece of my puzzle. My losses are good--not stellar, but good. I only lost 6.6 lbs my first week. Its P2 D14 and I am down 9.2 pounds and losing my usual .4 a day. I am POP so surprised I am not losing more, but hope to avoid big plateaus. Thank you again for your wonderful help and advice.

    Best,
    RK

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    Glad you figured it out, RK!
    My expert Hcg Diet advice is based specifically on the original Simeons Protocol. Grammy's personal protocol:Grammy's Hcg Diet Protocol
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    I am not a medical doctor and my statements are not intended to treat, diagnose or cure any medical condition. Please always check with your doctor for medical questions and assistance. Medical Disclaimer:

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