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Thread: Thyroid panels are in. Have some questions before I talk to the doc

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    Yes, my daughter takes VitD. going to get daughter's lab work tomorrow. I'm really considering calling Dr. Freeze in the morning as well. I've spent a lot on labs and Endo in the last year to not get much better or at least try another thyroid med. Maybe it's time to mix it up, no pun intended!!! Kinda worried that if/when I change things up, I will have hair loss. but, I suppose in the end, once it turns around, hair will grow back. Thanks again.

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    Abnormal thyroid levels and not loosing anything on HCG

    I just came to know I have hypothyroidism and posted my results here :P2 and not loosing much at all!

    Here are the key points in my 5 week journey of hcg:
    6/2 - fast food - 200.1
    6/3 - weight - 205
    6/4 - started hcg
    Today, 7/4, weight is 197.6

    I have done many rounds of hcg and had average .5 lbs or more losses per day during P2. This round in 4 weeks, I really only lost 3-4 lbs, since that 6/2 jump of 5lbs was supposed to come off since it would have to water weight. In any case, to round up the my previous post mention above, this round losses are dismal!!! And yesterday I found out I have hypothyroidism. My insurance in Kaiser Permanente, not sure about your experience but here in N California, SF region, Kaiser service is for the most part really poor. They don’t do the frees and reverse tests! And the doc is saying my thyroid is very mild and not to expect much change in wt loss with the medication he put me on (mentioned below in bullet 3). But knowing my body, it is screaming something is really off and so far I have only uncovered the thyroid as a big red flag!


    Some questions:
    • 1 Did you get these “full thyroid panel tests” from external vendor like granny did? Costs a bunch but if it’s the only way to go, I am prepared to shell out - out of pocket.
    • 2 Should I stop the hcg(VLCD) now and get the thyroid fixed or do both in conjunction? I am personally leaning towards stopping, but you ladies seems to be much more knowledgeable in this...
    • 3 Starting today I am taking levothyroxine 25 mg per day. But from what I have read just in the last 2 days, this is very insignificant dose. What do you think? Get the full panel first?
    • 4 other weight loss related tests recommendations for someone showing my kind of symptoms?



    Thanks

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    First let's address the hcg losses. You're right--they are poor. What is your dose? Being hypothyroid usually doesn't affect your losses too badly. Hcg lifts the thyroid anyway and many of us need to lower our dose when on hcg. you've been following regular protocol? I would suspect your dose is off or your hcg is no good.

    Now about your thyroid. Unfortunately I'm all too familiar with Kaiser because of a friend there in CA. Levothyroxine is the worst of the medications for women. Women tend to have problems converting T4 to T3 and that med is straight T4. One of the desiccated thyroid meds are a much better choice. I'm not sure getting the labs done on your own will do you any good unless you're prepared to change doctors anyway because the Kaiser docs don't listen very well. Talking them into treating you properly might be a waste of your breath. If you want to go to a functional medicine doctor and pay out of pocket to get treated properly, then that's an option. Personally, I've usually gotten my own labs pulled and then had my GP do what I asked. He retired this past year though so I've gone to a naturopath who does Skype calls all over the country and knows how to treat thyroid properly.
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    I am doing .15 ml of numedical injection right now. I started at .2ml: no hunger, no losses;
    then down to .125ml, felt hunger by evenings, cravings by midnights;
    so last 3 days upped to .15ml: no hunger, no loss. So that’s the hcg.
    And yes, I am doing Dr. Simeon 500 calls per day round.

    It’s so great to know someone who actually “know” about how bad the kp docs are. Lol. For the most part I have to find articles and advice them by sending them links in email on what to do!! They are like freaking robots mouthing the same factory distributed words! My only reason I am staying cause they have my whole history of back issues.

    What is the best desiccated thyroid med out there, granny? Yes I would be interested in talking to this naturopath with thyroid and maybe other problems. Maybe you can pm me?

    I have all the symptoms of hypothyroidism: Fatigue, Weakness, Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight, Coarse, dry hair, Hair loss, Cold intolerance (you can't tolerate cold temperatures like those around you), Muscle cramps and frequent muscle aches. Everything fits me to a T!

    So you saying the hcg dose is the problem and the elevated TSH is a result of hcg? If that is the case, I have never had like 4lbs loss in 4.5 weeks. Something is off, granny, with my health. If not thyroid, something... Help!

    Thanks,
    Monica

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    no no, I don't mean hcg is the cause of your poor losses. That's likely the hight dose you were on for most of the round so far. Hcg actually lifts the thyroid a bit and helps hypothyroidism. I would hold at your 150 iu dose for a few days and see if your losses start nicely.

    You can contact Dr. Karen Freeze at [email protected]. She's awesome and pretty inexpensive for a naturopath.My favorite desiccated thyroid is NP Thyroid. Naturethroid seems to be a problem lately for many of us. Getting a GoodRX card will get you the best price most of the time.
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    Sorry I am new to this whole thyroid world and might not have ramped up to your level. From what you said I googled NP THYROID and found this this link with goodrx: https://www.goodrx.com/np-thyroid

    Are those what you are talking about?

    And thanks so much for referring to Dr. Karen Freeze. Will be sending her an email just as soon as I post this reply. And yes, I am staying on for another 5 days on .15ml then go to p3 or take a planned interruption cause I am expecting some family to visit me from 16th to 23rd.

    Thanks so much granny for all your help! Everybody here is benefiting loads from your kindness!

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    Yes that's the GoodRX I'm talking about. Their price is usually better than regular insurance for desiccated thyroid.
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    Hcg4mon, I am also in SF Bay Area and with Kaiser so I feel your pain. ULTAlabtests.com are direct-to-consumer and have pretty fair prices for thyroid panels. You can order/pay online and then bring requisition to any Quest laboratory, which are all over. Results usually delivered pretty quickly.

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    Oh wow! Thanks Jeanne! I will definitely check out ULTAlabtests.com.

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