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  1. #2593
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    Hey girls, I got back last night from my work trip. I did really well while away, prepared all my own food, I did have 2 coke zeros but I also had pizza, tim tams, cake and other stuff shoved in my face, so very happy. Now that I am back, I have just come undone...I cannot do this anymore...it is depressing me so bad...I even had cigarettes yesterday because it was the only thing I could do to stop myself from eating bad stuff...i'm not even hungry, I just want to eat other food and more of it and god how I miss crossfit...I am just so not coping with this

    Today I had 4 pieces of fruit, non protocol veggies with dinner plus 100gr extra meat, 6 rice crackers and 3 potato chips. So I have decided (I have 4 more doses then 3 more vlcd days left) I will just up my calories to 800 until i'm in P3 because otherwise I am going to crack it and binge...I know I will...I will try stick to protocol foods and fully accept that I probably won't lose anymore weight...I just can't do this any longer!! I don't know what has happened...I know I am physically capable of this but my head is just not in it...right now I would prefer to be fat than do this

    You girls are doing great, I am envious!!

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    Hey FJL ... why don't you just skip those drops and go straight onto P3 ... you've obviously had enough. I certainly am over it.

    Today was my first non HCG, second last VLCD, and I was hungry all day. My (unemployed and therefore designated cook) husband made me a delish lunch of garlic prawns with bok choy, but I ate my breadstick as well, which I haven't done for weeks, and I ate my apple for afternoon tea - the last couple of days I've needed to do that although I had been cutting out 1 piece of fruit. Tonight he made me some kind of fish and asparagus that he pain fried so the fish fell apart but again ... delicious, and I just drank a pot of herbal tea to fill myself up afterwards. After I have a shower I will make another pot and also grab some fruit.

    Hopefully I've drunk myself into a stupor today. I seem to have TOM ... sorta kinda ... ?? ... hardly at all but definitely there and a bit of a gut ache and about 10 days early. GO AWAY TOM! I want to whoosh by Saturday morning. I will use THAT as my LIW.

    Fingers crossed I make it through tomorrow - last VLCD. Soooooo looking forward to brekky! Kirsty I'm still browsing the beginning of this thread (up to page 201!!) and been avidly following your journey. Loved your first P3 brekky - I think you said eggs, smoked salmon and mushrooms - I was thinking about the same but add some tomatoes. Did you do a scramble or omelette, or fry or poach? I'd also be interested in your quantities. I thought also about doing an Eggs Benedict, which I make a version of, but obviously without the muffin - I usually poach 2 eggs and put on top of smoked salmon, wilted baby spinach and avocado with S&W mayo (as I never have hollandaise sauce in the fridge) - that'd get some fats into me without overdoing it I think.

    I suggested the Leptin thing to my husband but (a) he hasn't read ANYTHING here so doesn't really understand and (b) his main concern is that I'm just going to eat big again and stretch my stomach. I'm terrified of that too.

    Aaah well ... almost there. I plan to P3 until late November ... until the Christmas parties start!! I think my first one is 20th. I plan to be "normal" but also sensible. I'm also doing a week at Cedarvale Health Retreat in Kangaroo Valley last week of Nov - so I'll be P4 but totally vegetarian there. That will be interesting because I don't know how carby it'll be. And I'm guessing I won't need my own scale BUT i don't think i'd get away with a nudie measure in the common room!!! I plan to ride my motorbike there so I probably won't have room for scales, especially if the weather looks to be cool.

    Then we have December, and Christmas/New Year - continue P4 and try to maintain, then when work goes back early January I'll start again.

    So I did Subcutaneous injections this round, prescribed by my GP. She charged me $450 for the privilege. I just had a look at that frequencyapps site briefly. Patches sound interesting (I'm not interested in drops because it sounds all too complicated) or perhaps pellets. Any thoughts? Experiences? Differences? Do you need a script or do you just order? I haven't had a good look (and probably won't until December).
    MRSR1 (bikerchick)
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    R1 start weight (post load) - 82.5 kg
    LIW 72.9kg, stabilised at 71.9kg
    R2 start weight (post load) - 72.7kg
    Last patch weight 63.1 kg
    R3 start weight (post load) - 65.4kg
    LIW 59.2kg (best weight 58.6kg)
    Round 4 start weight (post load) 66.5kg
    LIW 59.55 (best weight 58.8kg)
    I think I did a 5th round ...
    Round 6 start weight (post load) 75.2kg

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    AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH!!! STILL STALLED!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S BEEN A WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!! And still hungry ... last day VLCD today!!!!!!!!!
    MRSR1 (bikerchick)
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    R1 start weight (post load) - 82.5 kg
    LIW 72.9kg, stabilised at 71.9kg
    R2 start weight (post load) - 72.7kg
    Last patch weight 63.1 kg
    R3 start weight (post load) - 65.4kg
    LIW 59.2kg (best weight 58.6kg)
    Round 4 start weight (post load) 66.5kg
    LIW 59.55 (best weight 58.8kg)
    I think I did a 5th round ...
    Round 6 start weight (post load) 75.2kg

  4. #2596
    Quote Originally Posted by MRSR1 View Post
    Hey FJL ... why don't you just skip those drops and go straight onto P3 ... you've obviously had enough. I certainly am over it.

    Today was my first non HCG, second last VLCD, and I was hungry all day. My (unemployed and therefore designated cook) husband made me a delish lunch of garlic prawns with bok choy, but I ate my breadstick as well, which I haven't done for weeks, and I ate my apple for afternoon tea - the last couple of days I've needed to do that although I had been cutting out 1 piece of fruit. Tonight he made me some kind of fish and asparagus that he pain fried so the fish fell apart but again ... delicious, and I just drank a pot of herbal tea to fill myself up afterwards. After I have a shower I will make another pot and also grab some fruit.

    Hopefully I've drunk myself into a stupor today. I seem to have TOM ... sorta kinda ... ?? ... hardly at all but definitely there and a bit of a gut ache and about 10 days early. GO AWAY TOM! I want to whoosh by Saturday morning. I will use THAT as my LIW.

    Fingers crossed I make it through tomorrow - last VLCD. Soooooo looking forward to brekky! Kirsty I'm still browsing the beginning of this thread (up to page 201!!) and been avidly following your journey. Loved your first P3 brekky - I think you said eggs, smoked salmon and mushrooms - I was thinking about the same but add some tomatoes. Did you do a scramble or omelette, or fry or poach? I'd also be interested in your quantities. I thought also about doing an Eggs Benedict, which I make a version of, but obviously without the muffin - I usually poach 2 eggs and put on top of smoked salmon, wilted baby spinach and avocado with S&W mayo (as I never have hollandaise sauce in the fridge) - that'd get some fats into me without overdoing it I think.

    I suggested the Leptin thing to my husband but (a) he hasn't read ANYTHING here so doesn't really understand and (b) his main concern is that I'm just going to eat big again and stretch my stomach. I'm terrified of that too.

    Aaah well ... almost there. I plan to P3 until late November ... until the Christmas parties start!! I think my first one is 20th. I plan to be "normal" but also sensible. I'm also doing a week at Cedarvale Health Retreat in Kangaroo Valley last week of Nov - so I'll be P4 but totally vegetarian there. That will be interesting because I don't know how carby it'll be. And I'm guessing I won't need my own scale BUT i don't think i'd get away with a nudie measure in the common room!!! I plan to ride my motorbike there so I probably won't have room for scales, especially if the weather looks to be cool.

    Then we have December, and Christmas/New Year - continue P4 and try to maintain, then when work goes back early January I'll start again.

    So I did Subcutaneous injections this round, prescribed by my GP. She charged me $450 for the privilege. I just had a look at that frequencyapps site briefly. Patches sound interesting (I'm not interested in drops because it sounds all too complicated) or perhaps pellets. Any thoughts? Experiences? Differences? Do you need a script or do you just order? I haven't had a good look (and probably won't until December).
    As the patches are homeopathic, you don't need a prescription....just jump on the website and order. I've never done prescription HCG so don't know how they compare, but i have tried drops (why to much hassle) and pellets (i always struggled to remember to take them) and i prefer patches, just more convenient.

    My first P3 breaky i was very excited...i think i had them poached (my favorite) but now i have a weird reaction to eggs and as much as i like them they make me ill.

    A good breakfast that i also used when i was eating eggs was breakfast muffins. Basically eggs, chicken mince, mushrooms and tomatoes all mixed together and put in muffin cups and baked for 15mins. Then i would freeze them and pull one out each morning microwave for a few minutes and would be good to go.

    I thought i would share a typical P3 day for me in the hopes that this helps you ladies in the transition.

    Breakfast
    Smoothie (Half a cup on milk, half an avocado, 1/3 cup coconut milk, 1 scoop of protein powder, half a cup of raspberries)
    Latte with full cream milk
    approx 400-500 calories

    Lunch
    Mixed Salad (Lettuce,cucumber, mushrooms, tomato, bean sprouts)
    Dressing of olive oil, apple cider vinger, lemon juice
    Grilled chicken breast-Usually around 200gms
    Approx 400 calories

    Dinner
    Steamed Veggies (broccoli, mushrooms, asparagus)
    Steak or other protein- usually around 200gms
    Approx 400 calories

    For the first week, the only things i generally add in is mixed salads and veggies and more protein along with good fats. I average around 1200 calories....i know we aren't meant to count calories but it keeps me on track.

    Week 2 I start adding in more dairy...a little bit of cheese here and there and try and get my calories up to 1500 calories.

    Week 3 i just keep on going with the same plan.

    I've gotten a little creative with my meals and below are a list of things i generally have as dinners or lunches during both p2 and p3 however they are slightly modified depending on what stage i'm in.

    Baked Beef meatballs
    Beef Koftas
    Prawn Saganaki
    Beef/Chicken stroganoff
    Bunless beef and mushroom burgers
    Slow cooker mexican beef/chicken salad
    Fish cakes
    Pastaless lasagna
    Meatza
    Chicken Chowder
    Lemon and Garlic Chicken

    I couldn't handle to boring steak and salad or chicken and salad, plus i like to cook....even if that does entail through something in the slow cooker with a heap of spices.





    Quote Originally Posted by MRSR1 View Post
    AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH!!! STILL STALLED!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S BEEN A WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!! And still hungry ... last day VLCD today!!!!!!!!!
    It's 1 more day you can do it.... and just think tomorrow you will be in P3 and then can start eating more....the last 2 VLCD are always hard, prob more a mental thing than anything else. Now is the time to concentrate on stabilizing so look at it on the flip side that for the next 21 days you dont want to see any movement on the scale. If it helps, in my second round i don't think i lost anything for the last 8 days in P2 and to be honest that was the easiest p3. Plus you have lost 10.3Kgs and a huge amount of cm's which is great for your first round.



    Round losses so far:7.6kgs
    Round cm's lost so far: 27cm's

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    You rock KG!! Made me smile.
    Thanks for the tips.
    The only thing I'd add to that is the Slim noodles ... I'm stinging for a noodly stir fry or spag bol!!
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    R1 start weight (post load) - 82.5 kg
    LIW 72.9kg, stabilised at 71.9kg
    R2 start weight (post load) - 72.7kg
    Last patch weight 63.1 kg
    R3 start weight (post load) - 65.4kg
    LIW 59.2kg (best weight 58.6kg)
    Round 4 start weight (post load) 66.5kg
    LIW 59.55 (best weight 58.8kg)
    I think I did a 5th round ...
    Round 6 start weight (post load) 75.2kg

  6. #2598
    Quote Originally Posted by MRSR1 View Post
    You rock KG!! Made me smile.
    Thanks for the tips.
    The only thing I'd add to that is the Slim noodles ... I'm stinging for a noodly stir fry or spag bol!!
    I tried them but wasn't a fan...they were just too slimy and rubbery for me. I was hanging out for a pad thai and they just didn't cut it....but give them a shot, some people love them



    Round losses so far:7.6kgs
    Round cm's lost so far: 27cm's

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    KG - firstly your smoothie is ... intriguing! Not sure if I can drink my avocado. What protein powder do you use? I plan a trip to Mr Vitamins in Chatswood in the morning.

    And coconut milk - brand?

    Do you use coconut oil or butter?

    Need me a shopping list!!

    Oh and by the way I HATE cooking - thank god for my hubby!
    MRSR1 (bikerchick)
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    Speaks in "metric"!!!





    R1 start weight (post load) - 82.5 kg
    LIW 72.9kg, stabilised at 71.9kg
    R2 start weight (post load) - 72.7kg
    Last patch weight 63.1 kg
    R3 start weight (post load) - 65.4kg
    LIW 59.2kg (best weight 58.6kg)
    Round 4 start weight (post load) 66.5kg
    LIW 59.55 (best weight 58.8kg)
    I think I did a 5th round ...
    Round 6 start weight (post load) 75.2kg

  8. #2600
    Quote Originally Posted by MRSR1 View Post
    KG - firstly your smoothie is ... intriguing! Not sure if I can drink my avocado. What protein powder do you use? I plan a trip to Mr Vitamins in Chatswood in the morning.

    And coconut milk - brand?

    Do you use coconut oil or butter?

    Need me a shopping list!!

    Oh and by the way I HATE cooking - thank god for my hubby!
    The protein powder i use is WPI Whey Protein Isolate with Vanilla flavor.

    I was weirded out by the avocado at first but all it does is make it creamy and thicker....can't even taste it. I also add in some stevia and a spoonful of cocoa powder sometimes to make a choc raspberry shake.

    Coconut milk or coconut cream i can't remember the brand as i switch, i just check the label and make sure there is nothing extra in it.

    I stock up on coconut oil ( love me some cocoa crack in p3) and butter. As i mentioned i generally follow a primal lifestyle outside of my rounds so i love the butter and coconut oil and have it with most things....my favorite side dish is generally mushrooms fried with garlic, butter and parsley and if im having a cheese day i will put feta or goats cheese on top, hell not even a side dish i could eat a whole bowl of that.

    If you are headed to a vitamin store i would say definitely pick up some protein powder, a good probiotic, some digestive enzymes and even some L-Cartinine. There's heaps on the forum about using all 3 to help with stabilization. I also add in super krill capsules as well.

    I actually don't mind the cooking however i'm lazy on weekdays and love my slow cooker. My favorite at the moment is a spice mix of garlic, cumin,paprika, mustard powder,salt and black pepper. Rub that into a decent size piece of beef and through it in the slow cooker. That way when i get home from work i shred the beef and through it over a salad. In P3 put some salsa and guacamole on it and its the best Mexican flavor ever.



    Round losses so far:7.6kgs
    Round cm's lost so far: 27cm's

  9. #2601
    FJL - SOOOOOOOOO sorry to hear that you're having a hard time of it. How are you today? Have you increased to 800 as you thought you might? Do you feel any better at all? I think you did GREAT going away on a work trip, with all those temptations around.

    MRSR - sorry to hear about that stall. I guess with TOM, weight always fluctuates. It's your last VLCD Day ! Yay!!! Well done Ms 10kg! BTW - It was going to go to Cedarvale later this year too! I was researching it, but then decided to put a trip off until next year instead. BTW - I just bought some travel scale. They are miniature and light weight. Maybe you should get some? http://www.urbanities.com.au/outdoors/travel They arrived the day after I ordered them. Good luck with your shopping list!

    Kirsty - thanks so much for all of your guidance! I don't suppose you could elaborate on your breakfast muffin recipe i..e quantities, cooking time etc? They sound fantastic and in terms of breakfast, I really do need to 'grab something on the go' so they sound ideal.

    AFM - down 300g from yesterday and feeling good. Just started reading a whole lot about paleo and have just attempted to 'paleo-ize' my pantry. Getting ready for one week from now where I too can have eggs, smoked salmon, avocado and bacon for breakie !
    R1 Start weight 68.4kg. LDW 63.1kg (down 5.4kg - 23 days on hhcg drops). Stabilised.
    R2 Start weight 64kg. LPW 59kg (down 5kg - 23 days on patches). Didn't stabilise.
    Then - surgery and bad eating put all (plus more) back on.
    R3 Start weight 72.9kg. LDW 64.6kg (down 8.3kg - 44 days on Rx sublingual). Stabilised for a while, then put it all back on.
    R4 Start weight 75.5kg. Day 2 down 3kg.



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    Cleo - I've never met you but you should come to Cedarvale! I'm booked 25-30 Nov.
    MRSR1 (bikerchick)
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    R1 start weight (post load) - 82.5 kg
    LIW 72.9kg, stabilised at 71.9kg
    R2 start weight (post load) - 72.7kg
    Last patch weight 63.1 kg
    R3 start weight (post load) - 65.4kg
    LIW 59.2kg (best weight 58.6kg)
    Round 4 start weight (post load) 66.5kg
    LIW 59.55 (best weight 58.8kg)
    I think I did a 5th round ...
    Round 6 start weight (post load) 75.2kg

  11. #2603
    Quote Originally Posted by aussiecleo View Post
    FJL - SOOOOOOOOO sorry to hear that you're having a hard time of it. How are you today? Have you increased to 800 as you thought you might? Do you feel any better at all? I think you did GREAT going away on a work trip, with all those temptations around.

    MRSR - sorry to hear about that stall. I guess with TOM, weight always fluctuates. It's your last VLCD Day ! Yay!!! Well done Ms 10kg! BTW - It was going to go to Cedarvale later this year too! I was researching it, but then decided to put a trip off until next year instead. BTW - I just bought some travel scale. They are miniature and light weight. Maybe you should get some? http://www.urbanities.com.au/outdoors/travel They arrived the day after I ordered them. Good luck with your shopping list!

    Kirsty - thanks so much for all of your guidance! I don't suppose you could elaborate on your breakfast muffin recipe i..e quantities, cooking time etc? They sound fantastic and in terms of breakfast, I really do need to 'grab something on the go' so they sound ideal.

    AFM - down 300g from yesterday and feeling good. Just started reading a whole lot about paleo and have just attempted to 'paleo-ize' my pantry. Getting ready for one week from now where I too can have eggs, smoked salmon, avocado and bacon for breakie !
    to be honest i didnt really have a recipe. From memory i think all i did was cook up a handful of mushrooms and a pack pf chicken mince then mix that in with half a dozen eggs and a heap of herbs and a little cheese, then pour all that into muffin pans and put it in a hot oven prob around 175 for 20mins or until firm.

    You can pretty much add whatever ingredients you like and depending on the size of your muffin tins it will determine how many it makes. I think i used 6 eggs, 500gm pack of chicken mince, 5 mushrooms a bit of milk and butter and it made around 7-10 medium muffins



    Round losses so far:7.6kgs
    Round cm's lost so far: 27cm's

  12. #2604
    MRSR - Hehehe thanks for the invite MRSR - now that hubby and I are booked for Port Stephens in November, that's all the leave for me this year! I'm sure you'll have a great time. I can't wait to hear about it. I've been to Golden Door in Qld and it was WONDERFUL so I'm very interested in your thoughts on Cedarvale.

    Kirsty - thanks so much for the recipe! Is this something I could cook for my first P3 week? Or should I steer clear until the second week, bearing in mind it has cheese in it?

    BTW I just made an excellent Mexican Chicken Soup - so glad I found the recipe because - to be totally honest - I was starting to get a bit sick of the food! I also found the most AWESOME healthy dessert blog and totally can't wait to jump into some of those recipes in P3.
    R1 Start weight 68.4kg. LDW 63.1kg (down 5.4kg - 23 days on hhcg drops). Stabilised.
    R2 Start weight 64kg. LPW 59kg (down 5kg - 23 days on patches). Didn't stabilise.
    Then - surgery and bad eating put all (plus more) back on.
    R3 Start weight 72.9kg. LDW 64.6kg (down 8.3kg - 44 days on Rx sublingual). Stabilised for a while, then put it all back on.
    R4 Start weight 75.5kg. Day 2 down 3kg.



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