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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Reshaping IMHO is the most awesome part of hCG! During the reshaping process between R1 and R2, I dropped 3 sizes!

    I guess it depends on where your problem areas are. I lost most weight from my upper half, so during reshaping, the fat from my belly moved to fill out my top. My belly is the worst, that's where I hold all my main fat stores.

    It takes about 3 weeks before the process becomes obvious.
    How I wish this would happen. I lost almost all of the weight from my lower half, but my upper half is the most problematic. My upper arms are SO chunky, and I haven't lost more than 1/4" the entire 6 weeks I've been doing this protocol. I am 100% serious that I will do lipo or something after i finish my 3 rounds ( 2 more after this) because it is SO embarassing in anything short sleeved and I cannot fit my arms down anything with fitted sleeves even if it is the right size everywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellinicole View Post
    Good morning all! Second day of Phase 3 and I'm up .3 from yesterday. I know that's no biggie, but I would really like to stay under. In fact, I would like to be under by one pound so I can say I've lost a nice even 20 pounds!
    I'm pretty sure I know what caused the increase though! On my way to get my nails done yesterday, I thought, "Ooh, I'll go to Starbuck's and get a tall, sugar free latte!" Well, I got home and looked up the nutrition info, and did you know that those "sugar free" drinks have sugar in them?! WTF?? AND 14g of carbs. CARBS! I had no idea. So no more Starbuck's for me. I will continue to enjoy my coffee and tea from home w/coconut milk and stevia drops
    The Starbucks carbs are from the milk lactose -- a 12 ounce tall will have at least 10 ounces of milk in it. Since its not sugar or starch, it doesn't technically violate protocol. However, most people seem to be sensitive to dairy in large quantities, and milk in particular. I've had a lousy gain every time I've had a latte. I've been doing drip with just cream and it doesn't seem to have the same effect--and saves me 2.50 a pop.

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    Good morning everyone! P3, D3 and I'm up .5 Still under a 1 pound gain from my first day of P3 though so I suppose it's okay. I'm just worried about this small daily increase becoming a trend. I did 90 minutes of yoga yesterday so I hoped I would be back down! I added in about a 1/4 cup of almonds yesterday. I had some salmon sashimi last night and a few salmon/veggie rolls that I pulled the rice paper off of (no rice in roll). The rolls had a little cream cheese in each. Wondering if it was the almonds or the cream cheese?
    I went to Whole Foods last night and got some HWC, since it seems like that is what everyone is using for coffee (and I gave up flavored creamer when I started HCG) so I was hoping to really enjoy it. I must say that I feel really full now and not good after my cup of coffee I had planned on going to 6am yoga, but I feel too full and yucky now. Maybe I'm just trying to add in too much food too fast? Maybe I'll just stick with the coconut milk in my coffee. I think I'm worried about not getting enough protein and fat.
    Also, what is the deal with FFF or lff? I bought some b/c I've seen it on these forums a lot. Should I be eating it as breakfast or a snack to get some good fat in?

    LIW: Is this the weight you weighed on the day of your last injection or the 72 hours after before starting Phase 3?

    I apologize for all of the questions, I just don't want to have to do a correction a day b/c I don't eat meat, only fish. And b/c I just don't want to gain over 2 pounds!
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    I think FFF is full fat Fage and FFF is fat free Fage. I've been eating FFF with flavored stevia drops and it's heavenly! Some people have a hard time finding it and say that the 2% version tastes nearly as good.

    LIW is your weight on the day of your last injection. Grammy said that any weight lost during the 72 hours shouldn't be counted as it is easily regained.

    Good Luck!

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    Kellinicole - Maybe cut out almonds and cream cheese today and start them alone again after today if you are back down tomorrow? Hey if the coconut milk was working - stick to it, I love HWC in my coffee but it is a lot of calories. I will do whole milk when I seem stabilize OK and start adding in carbs - there is only a little bit of carbs in the whole milk. Question away that's what we are here for.

    LIW - yes, usually a little wiggle room there for most after dropping a bit the next three days

    afm: wth ? I am higher today at 127.2, I was so good yesterday and at around 1600 cals for the day, workout skip day and tons of water and went the bathroom - thanks to daily mag now not sure why I keep creeping up now? Still below my LIW I was settling in first nine days between 124.6-125.5, can it still be two lbs of workout weight? Maybe I'll do a steak day today and see if I can get it under control. I am pouting today My period is due too and we usually dont weigh ourselves everyday so I am hoping that's a factor too.
    I am 5'4" 44 yo. Was stable at 123 last round, lost focus, back at 144.
    R1 1/11 Started at 170lbs got to 140. Another round 9/12 got to 123. Goal is to get back in that area and hold under 130.



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    I found FFF (full fate fage) last night & was thinking that mixing some stevia drops w/it would be tasty!

    Well BOO on the LIW I lost 2 lbs within those 72 hours before starting Phase 3.

    Thank you for the info Toonsmom

    Quote Originally Posted by Toonsmom View Post
    I think FFF is full fat Fage and FFF is fat free Fage. I've been eating FFF with flavored stevia drops and it's heavenly! Some people have a hard time finding it and say that the 2% version tastes nearly as good.

    LIW is your weight on the day of your last injection. Grammy said that any weight lost during the 72 hours shouldn't be counted as it is easily regained.

    Good Luck!
    Working towards a healthier, happier me!

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    R2 & R3: Hardly on forumsl

    R1: 8/30/12 Wt: 143.3; 9/29/12 LIW: 126.3; P3 Start Weight: 124.3

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    Kelli it is totally normal to have fluctuations during P3 especially the first week and some it takes the full 3 weeks to stabilize so don't be too worried about it. In my first 2 rounds the first week of P3 was always a roller coaster ride adn then usually by week 2 everything mellows out and you stick pretty close to LDw/LIW. The main thing is as long as you are within your 2 lb window you are stable and the body is going to have daily fluctuations it's just the way it is.

    I always use the weight the morning after my last dose because that is the actual reading for that dosage.

    Danielle you are still below LIW so I wouldn't do a steak day you could be setting yourself up for a major roller coaster ride. Could this gain be a backlash of the FFF day maybe?

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    AFM - Down to 119.6 and so happy to see me getting closer to my LDW and below the 2lb mark! Hoping if I can continue to keep it clean all weekend and I will see LDW again and maybe lower!

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    Thanks Danielle! Yeah, I'll cut the almonds and cream cheese out today and see if that makes a difference. The coconut in my coffee wasn't great, but it got me through Phase 2 and off my Coffeemate flavored creamer addiction!

    So sorry to hear about your increase today What do you mean by workout weight? Like water retention? Good luck today, and I'll hope for a drop for both of us tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by DanielleY View Post
    Kellinicole - Maybe cut out almonds and cream cheese today and start them alone again after today if you are back down tomorrow? Hey if the coconut milk was working - stick to it, I love HWC in my coffee but it is a lot of calories. I will do whole milk when I seem stabilize OK and start adding in carbs - there is only a little bit of carbs in the whole milk. Question away that's what we are here for.

    LIW - yes, usually a little wiggle room there for most after dropping a bit the next three days

    afm: wth ? I am higher today at 127.2, I was so good yesterday and at around 1600 cals for the day, workout skip day and tons of water and went the bathroom - thanks to daily mag now not sure why I keep creeping up now? Still below my LIW I was settling in first nine days between 124.6-125.5, can it still be two lbs of workout weight? Maybe I'll do a steak day today and see if I can get it under control. I am pouting today My period is due too and we usually dont weigh ourselves everyday so I am hoping that's a factor too.
    Working towards a healthier, happier me!

    R4: 2/20/19 Wt: 143; VLCD 10: 135.2

    R2 & R3: Hardly on forumsl

    R1: 8/30/12 Wt: 143.3; 9/29/12 LIW: 126.3; P3 Start Weight: 124.3

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    Hi all! Just wanted to chime in on what I have been reading. The problem with P3 is adding way too much, way too fast (I know, I did just that this time around, silly me!).

    Most of you are in a different place than I am, I was extremely fat (325 lbs), and am still large (200 lbs), but I am also 5'9" tall and big boned (good excuse, huh?). Anyway, you do want to add HEALTHY fats, that would be EVOO, CO, Butter, Ghee, Avocado and Avocado oil, and animal fats (tallow/lard). For those who tolerate it well HWC is good too. In the beginning, these fats are added to your P2 foods (mainly to cook in and flavor your food). Healthy fats will help you feel full (I eat 1/2 an avocado every morning) for a long time. You also need protein to help your body recover from all the weight loss. Kelli was saying she only eats fish, which is great, make sure you eat it with every meal. Almonds, although a good source of protein, has a lot of calories and far too much Omega 6, and should be eaten sparingly.

    Veggies (except starches) can be added immediately, and in large amounts. Fruits should be very limited, or even better avoided in P3 (you are teaching your body to burn fat for energy, not sugars/carbs, which is why we all need(ed) to lose weight).

    Some people love and swear by FFF/fff (Full Fat Fage/fat free fage), if you enjoy it, go with the FFF, again, it's about healthy fats (just in case you didn't know, fat doesn't make you fat, too many carbs will make you fat, especially the ones found in "fat free" food) and proteins. Also, some people find that they don't tolerate milk products well, so if a gain happens, remove it, and reintroduce it at another time.

    After adding fats, you can add a protein (eggs, pork-not bacon, yet), then depending on what your weight looks like in a couple of days, add more stuff. Bacon and other processed meats should be the last of the proteins added, in that they are low in protein and high in salt and preservatives.

    Save all sweets, sugars, starches, alcohol for P4, and the rules hold steady, don't add too much too fast.

    I would also suggest that you keep a food log of what you eat and when you eat it. You should allow at least 3-4 hours between eating your last meal and going to bed (by the way, you lose weight while you sleep, weird but true!). Journal everything you can, including how you feel, any cravings you have, and general thoughts.

    As far as LDW/LIW, I use the next mornings weight from my last dose, because that's the last time that weight was affected by hCG, but that is just how I do it.

    P3 can be a very confusing time. It's hard to know what is going to work best. What works for some, doesn't work for others. Keep it slow, keep track, and keep your eye's on the prize!
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    This is super awesome info Rusty and how I try to do my P3/4 aside from my food fest on day 3 which I could kick myself for! But I am pulling back out of it thank god!

    My foods are mainly proteins, good fats(avacado, kerrygold butter, HWC, MCT oil) and some vegi's and I do still have 1 fruit mid day but I also eat a protein with it. I also only eat 2 meals a day my BAB and then lunch/dinner around 2-3pm. I don't log or count calories although my foods are basically the same things every single day and not alot of variation. I have to eat all my ,meals at work because of my long drive and shift and also trying to follow the guidelines for the post leptinRX.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Hi all! Just wanted to chime in on what I have been reading. The problem with P3 is adding way too much, way too fast (I know, I did just that this time around, silly me!).

    Most of you are in a different place than I am, I was extremely fat (325 lbs), and am still large (200 lbs), but I am also 5'9" tall and big boned (good excuse, huh?). Anyway, you do want to add HEALTHY fats, that would be EVOO, CO, Butter, Ghee, Avocado and Avocado oil, and animal fats (tallow/lard). For those who tolerate it well HWC is good too. In the beginning, these fats are added to your P2 foods (mainly to cook in and flavor your food). Healthy fats will help you feel full (I eat 1/2 an avocado every morning) for a long time. You also need protein to help your body recover from all the weight loss. Kelli was saying she only eats fish, which is great, make sure you eat it with every meal. Almonds, although a good source of protein, has a lot of calories and far too much Omega 6, and should be eaten sparingly.

    Veggies (except starches) can be added immediately, and in large amounts. Fruits should be very limited, or even better avoided in P3 (you are teaching your body to burn fat for energy, not sugars/carbs, which is why we all need(ed) to lose weight).

    Some people love and swear by FFF/fff (Full Fat Fage/fat free fage), if you enjoy it, go with the FFF, again, it's about healthy fats (just in case you didn't know, fat doesn't make you fat, too many carbs will make you fat, especially the ones found in "fat free" food) and proteins. Also, some people find that they don't tolerate milk products well, so if a gain happens, remove it, and reintroduce it at another time.

    After adding fats, you can add a protein (eggs, pork-not bacon, yet), then depending on what your weight looks like in a couple of days, add more stuff. Bacon and other processed meats should be the last of the proteins added, in that they are low in protein and high in salt and preservatives.

    Save all sweets, sugars, starches, alcohol for P4, and the rules hold steady, don't add too much too fast.

    I would also suggest that you keep a food log of what you eat and when you eat it. You should allow at least 3-4 hours between eating your last meal and going to bed (by the way, you lose weight while you sleep, weird but true!). Journal everything you can, including how you feel, any cravings you have, and general thoughts.

    As far as LDW/LIW, I use the next mornings weight from my last dose, because that's the last time that weight was affected by hCG, but that is just how I do it.

    P3 can be a very confusing time. It's hard to know what is going to work best. What works for some, doesn't work for others. Keep it slow, keep track, and keep your eye's on the prize!

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    Thanks for all the info guys - I don't whats happening with me, I have had all healthy fats and proteins .. back to basics I guess. All P2 meats today for me cooked in coco oil or evoo My period is also due anytime - how much weight do you guys gain with your periods? I really never paid attention before because I stabilized just fine. Thanks!!

    Rusty - thanks for the great info!! Reinforces I am doing the right thing "for the most part "

    Kellinicole - I was talking about water retention and lactic acid from soreness - maybe that's part of it? I lost a few lbs too during the last three days and want back there, whaaaaah

    Bad thing is my last few days on HCG were wacky as heck, here is what it looked like.
    day of last injection 128.4 (+1 from day before)
    day after last injection 129.4 (+1 again)
    day 3 127.4
    first day of P3 125.6 .. wacky! so i want to be nowhere near 128.4 because i was up a lb from my lowest during injections

    Shannon - glad your getting back down there
    I am 5'4" 44 yo. Was stable at 123 last round, lost focus, back at 144.
    R1 1/11 Started at 170lbs got to 140. Another round 9/12 got to 123. Goal is to get back in that area and hold under 130.



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