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    Quote Originally Posted by kapluzie123 View Post
    I duplicated my menu from Wed, but I added an avocado-- I was up .4 this morning.. I think avocados are out for now. I looked back at my P3 log and saw that last P3 I consumed a lot of avocado- I have slight gains almost everyday that I had them.. Back then I couldn't figure it out, cause it was being suggested that it wasn't the avocado-- well folks, I'm listening to my body and taking out the avocado. Hopefully tomorrow will be a lower number on the scale.. we shall see.
    On a better note- My library called, and I went and checked out THM-- just in time to plan for P4.. but I have to admit, I am kinda tired of a structured plan-- when I have to eat, what ingredients on what day-- ugh... but I will read and absorb as much info as I can.. and see if it can work.
    Kap, I like my modified version f THM because it snt very structured and with all our travels that works well for me. I basically follow food combining rules. High fat, lower carb Or high protein med carb and low fat or high carb meal with protein and minimum fats Those are my basic premises. Still eating two fruits a day, veggies and plenty of water About 80oz or 5 16-0z bottles .
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    I haven't read all of THM yet. But it's not really that structured, like the other plans.

    The sisters are quite different in their eating methods and the THM suits the needs of a variety of people and budgets. That is why its best to read the book.

    It is also depends if your just maintaining or need to lose weight. Hopefully I get more time this weekend to read it further.

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    Chapter 8 really starts explaining the THM way. It's a freedom approach, and gives examples of how to start, and what with depends upon your current status.
    Rose I can see how that 1TB of peanut butter works for you, and they have mentioned that in the book.

    I am liking the book so far.

    The hardest part is that three hour eating window, when you work at a job that has breaks every two hours. That is something I have to try and fit in. They say as long as you don't go past 4 hours. That is where catastrophe can happen.
    Other jobs I have had, this was okay for me, or when I am at home.

    I may have to find a small snack I can keep in my pocket or something.

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    I'm reading throught THM currently as well. I read in the book that you can have your snack after 2 hours...you just have to make sure its a Fuel Pull, so that it blends with either the S or E meal on either side. But that only applies if you are changing fuel sources.
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    I'm not liking the way THM was written. The content seems sound for some, but I don't know if this would be the plan for me. I like choices, but i like a list of choices. I do like structure. . And usually do well with it. I'm not one to figure out what to eat everyday, nor am I the type to eat the same things regularly. This is why I have so much trouble in p3. I haven't finished the book. I will see if I can come up with a plan for myself using their guidelines. Otherwise, I always have fmd to fall back on. But with coffee with time.
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    Round 4- starting at 152
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    Round 5- starting 143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    I'm reading throught THM currently as well. I read in the book that you can have your snack after 2 hours...you just have to make sure its a Fuel Pull, so that it blends with either the S or E meal on either side. But that only applies if you are changing fuel sources.
    Yes I noticed that further into the book. I am almost at Part Three of the book. I think I will take their advice and start slowly with Breakfast first and see how that goes.
    I ordered their cookbook as well tonight.

    I think I can easily adapt to this method as like it says, you can freelance. I think once you know what it is you are needing and understand each Fuel, then it won't be hard. Myself after I am done hcg again, will want to just maintain.
    I want to follow their guidelines to start,and go from there. Until I really learn what fuel each food belongs to.

    Also thank goodness I can get their products in Canada if needed. Unlike FMD products, I have to send to my brotherinlaw first, who then ships to me. Not that you need their products to do the diet.
    But there is a couple items I would buy.

    I know I will read this book once, and then probably refer back to different chapters. It really has info for many different mamas lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapluzie123 View Post
    I'm not liking the way THM was written. The content seems sound for some, but I don't know if this would be the plan for me. I like choices, but i like a list of choices. I do like structure. . And usually do well with it. I'm not one to figure out what to eat everyday, nor am I the type to eat the same things regularly. This is why I have so much trouble in p3. I haven't finished the book. I will see if I can come up with a plan for myself using their guidelines. Otherwise, I always have fmd to fall back on. But with coffee with time.
    I think there are many choices, and you shouldn't eat the same thing regularly. Keep reading as you will see many options for different lifestyles..
    And you can have your coffee.

    Thankfully for me P3 has never been the issue. P4 is where I get issues after a couple months.
    In P3 I basically enjoy P2 foods but more of it, and add fats and new veggies one at a time.

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    I've had difficulty in P3. Which leads to more trouble in P4 unless I am on a structured plan ( like fmd). I think THM has some sound advice for all types of "mamas", but for now I think I need to stick with a more structured plan. In the time that it will take me to get close to goal or reach goal- I will try to understand which foods belong to which type of meal.. that would help me to navigate THM better. I may give it a whirl when I am close/at goal.

    AFM- I was slightly down again this morning by .6 and Tom came to visit.. Feeling bloated and trying to drink a lot of water. Sunday is my last day in P3, but I am thinking about lingering in P3 for another week or so since I have plenty of time for P4 before another round.
    I'm 5'2" and curvy in nature
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    end of P4- 164
    Round 4- starting at 152
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    P3- 138.4
    Round 5- starting 143
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    I know even her book says some people do better on a structured diet. You have to do what you think is right for you.
    For me it looks like the way to go, and I really enjoyed the read in Chapters 17 and 18 about certain foods and spices/oils.

    I may be wrong but it's not a good idea to linger in P3. It is best to move into P4 and just start slowly by adding one new thing in if possible at a time and see how that goes.

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    Yesterday I decided to try a small amount of avocado again.. and I'm up .6 today.. so avocado is out this time around and on the "don't eat" list.
    I am thinking to stay in P3 for another week or 10 days, just so I can test a few more things... I really don't get a chance to test many things because when I have a gain it takes about 3 days for me to recover or stabilize again.. So in essence I've tested a few things because of reactions. I'll have about a month in P4 after that.
    I still would like to get closer to my LIW- but looking back at my journals, I am where I usually am-- up between 5-6 lbs from LIW. That is MY norm. I guess it's probably best to just accept that I can't stabilize closer to LIW- and plan from there.. It may mean another round in the spring sometime, but I still have hope that I can find my magical combination and drop some more.
    I'm 5'2" and curvy in nature
    Round 1- starting weight 184.6
    LIW-159
    end of P4- 164
    Round 4- starting at 152
    LIW ( only 30 days)- 134.4
    P3- 138.4
    Round 5- starting 143
    LIW- 125.6


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    kapluzie: are you doing short rounds? (sorry, can't remember)

    If so, Grammy says that in the short rounds, you don't have enough time for the water weight you lose at the beginning of H2 to settle out, and so you might have to adjust your LIW up several pounds to account for it. Just wondering if that was the case with you and if knowing that would at least settle your mind about it.

    I'm trying to learn about THM too, and can't really decide which of the "mamas" profiles fit me best. I would have said the purist one, but soaking every little thing till it sprouts is way beyond what I'm willing to do. I like fresh and organic, but I'm not fanatic about it.

    I'm kind of thinking that when I've had enough of THE PLAN, that THM style eating is what I'll be transitioning into. (Eating 2 meal salads a day is just not growing on me.)

    I do like the structure of FMD better for the beginning of P4 though. It gets you going in the right direction.
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    Leez- I've always done long rounds. This past round is stopped at 30 injections- which has been my shortest round so far. But EVERY round I have ever done, I have ALWAYS gained back 5-6 lbs the first few days of P3. Then I seem to settle... My first round, I was just thrilled to be at a lower weight in general-- in subsequent rounds I really didn't pay much attention to it... I did a round over the summer, where I finally realized what I was doing wrong in P3 and thought that I could stabilize better... but NOPE.. and that freaked me out. This round, I expected the gain, it came and stuck... and I just moved on. I realize I am not the norm.. but then somebody has to be the different one. As long as I know what to expect the first week of P3, I'm ok. It's just the way it is. I'm tired of analyzing everything to the point where I change everything, make myself anxious and it doesn't work anyway. I'm just sticking to the basics and taking it for what it is. I've got my list of foods that seem to disagree with me and the scale and I'll keep adding to it if necessary.
    I'm really in a good place. I don't worry about eating. I enjoy what I eat. And I'm looking forward to my next round. So if it takes me a little longer to reach my goal- because I take 3 steps ahead and then 1 back--- that's ok. I won't give up.

    How is you ankle? Are you able to get around?
    I'm 5'2" and curvy in nature
    Round 1- starting weight 184.6
    LIW-159
    end of P4- 164
    Round 4- starting at 152
    LIW ( only 30 days)- 134.4
    P3- 138.4
    Round 5- starting 143
    LIW- 125.6


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