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    Quote Originally Posted by alcoholswab View Post
    A bit down in the dumps over the gout thing.

    It's hard to know if my foot still hurts because I was a moron and walked on it way past the point where I was in agony, which has the potential to have done permanent soft tissue damage, or if I still have the uric acid crystals in my toe joints. I'm hoping it's a mixture of some inflammation and me walking on any part but my big toe over the last half month, or better yet it's just psychosomatic and I'm a big baby.

    When chasing health it's a hard blow to make yourself worse, especially with something that could be a chronic disorder that haunts me for the rest of my grumbling days.

    My estrogen creature has strep throat and I have gout. A lovely way to spend our anniversary lol
    Alchi, I don't know very much about gout at all, so I'm wondering, since you just found out about it on Saturday, is 4-5 days enough time for the crystals to leave your system? Is there a 'quick fix' for a flare up like Pepto Bismol for diarrhea?

    I love how your estrogen unit becomes an estrogen creature when she's sick... sorry you're both under the weather for you anniversary - Happy Anniversary anyway!

    How's Todd these days? Has he become a trusted member of your family yet?

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    Post Cherry juice for Gout!

    Quote Originally Posted by alcoholswab View Post
    A bit down in the dumps over the gout thing.

    It's hard to know if my foot still hurts because I was a moron and walked on it way past the point where I was in agony, which has the potential to have done permanent soft tissue damage, or if I still have the uric acid crystals in my toe joints. I'm hoping it's a mixture of some inflammation and me walking on any part but my big toe over the last half month, or better yet it's just psychosomatic and I'm a big baby.

    When chasing health it's a hard blow to make yourself worse, especially with something that could be a chronic disorder that haunts me for the rest of my grumbling days.

    It amazes me how many people have gout around me, or know 8 people that have had it.

    My estrogen creature has strep throat and I have gout. A lovely way to spend our anniversary lol

    So last night I said f**k it, I'll get a pizza. I'm up 0.4 pounds this morning, but that might just be from my complete lack of physical activity.

    When seeking out lights at the end of the tunnel (non-train lights mind you), I ask myself, "If you could go back and not lose the weight and not have gout, would you?" The answer is a resounding, "NO!", so I guess I need to cowboy up, put my big boy panties and shut my mewling sound hole.

    Alchi,

    I am sorry you haven't gotten better. I know very little about your condition. But I found this and I think it may be helpful:




    Dr. Mercola is well known for using natural healing and health.


    Cheer Up


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    sorry to hear u have gout alcohol..my hubby has it but he seldom has flare ups since he takes allopurinol .. only when he is really bad like eating tons of red meat and drinking alcohol for a few days at a time...the pencil and sharpener is too funny, i had to pass that one on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxies_mom View Post
    I'm at 1.0 over LDW - I don't think I'm getting in enough water and find myself still eating per P2 alot, like I'm afraid to add things...especially after thanksgiving! Yesterday I ate a JJ Unwich, which was bacon, tomato and mayo wrapped in iceberg lettuce - a couple of apple slices 2 eggs and a small piece of pizza - maintained. I have cheated with sugar and some carbs, but it's really not cheating, right? I can add some of that....so if I'm stablizing at 1 over LDW even adding those occasionally, I'm thinking I should be ok. I have not been excersizing at all and am not seeing any inches gone since P2....am I doing myself a disservice? Must I add excersize? I haven't done any in years, since I had my knee replaced - I still have one bad knee and although the weight loss has helped immensely, it hurts to walk alot.....
    I think you're doing great. One lb is within the 'safe' range, sister. Keep doing what you're doing!

    As for exercise, it's such a personal thing. BUT, since you need to think about low impact due to your knees, you might want to look into yoga or Pilates or even a kettlebell routine. I was going to do the kettlebell starting this week, but I decided to start running a little bit. I'm going to try to be ready for a 5k in the spring and a 10k this summer with my daughter. She is both a distance runner in cross country and a sprinter in track (can run the 400M like the wind, the little turd), so I've definitely got some training to do! I'm hoping to continue during R2 (it's only 25 minutes 3x/week) but we'll see. If I have to start over after R2, I have to start over. BUT... some form of exercise might help you target those places you want to lose inches/firm up. That's my hope anyway - no more saggy tush!

    Just keep in mind one thing - exercise or not, you are a FABULOUS LOSER!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcoholswab View Post
    A bit down in the dumps over the gout thing.

    It's hard to know if my foot still hurts because I was a moron and walked on it way past the point where I was in agony, which has the potential to have done permanent soft tissue damage, or if I still have the uric acid crystals in my toe joints. I'm hoping it's a mixture of some inflammation and me walking on any part but my big toe over the last half month, or better yet it's just psychosomatic and I'm a big baby.

    When chasing health it's a hard blow to make yourself worse, especially with something that could be a chronic disorder that haunts me for the rest of my grumbling days.

    It amazes me how many people have gout around me, or know 8 people that have had it.

    My estrogen creature has strep throat and I have gout. A lovely way to spend our anniversary lol

    So last night I said f**k it, I'll get a pizza. I'm up 0.4 pounds this morning, but that might just be from my complete lack of physical activity.

    When seeking out lights at the end of the tunnel (non-train lights mind you), I ask myself, "If you could go back and not lose the weight and not have gout, would you?" The answer is a resounding, "NO!", so I guess I need to cowboy up, put my big boy panties and shut my mewling sound hole.

    Aw, chin up alch....gout is so painful! What about a cortisone (sp?) shot in the joint? When I had gout, (and working and wearing heels) the doctor gave me a shot and it really helped - before the shot I thought I was going to die...wanted to cut my foot off! I sure hope you feel better soon!! Hope EU feels better soon too.....my TU was tired on our anniversary, so we didn't get to do anything fun.....but that's ok, we'll make up for it later!! **insert groucho eyebrows here**

    You have done great on your losses.....you would rather have the weight off....the gout will pass..........sending a virtual hug your way!!

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    I want to live my life in such a way that when my feet hit the floor in the morning satan shudders and says "oh no, she's awake"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxies_mom View Post
    I'm at 1.0 over LDW - I don't think I'm getting in enough water and find myself still eating per P2 alot, like I'm afraid to add things...especially after thanksgiving! Yesterday I ate a JJ Unwich, which was bacon, tomato and mayo wrapped in iceberg lettuce - a couple of apple slices 2 eggs and a small piece of pizza - maintained. I have cheated with sugar and some carbs, but it's really not cheating, right? I can add some of that....so if I'm stablizing at 1 over LDW even adding those occasionally, I'm thinking I should be ok. I have not been excersizing at all and am not seeing any inches gone since P2....am I doing myself a disservice? Must I add excersize? I haven't done any in years, since I had my knee replaced - I still have one bad knee and although the weight loss has helped immensely, it hurts to walk alot.....

    I'm going back to catch up on the rest of the posts....stopped here at fbb63 to respond....

    Happy Hump Day awesome losers! xoxo
    I think you're doing awesome! I've done very little physical activity in the last couple of weeks. I am stabilizing around 1.5 above LDW. I really have to be careful though. I know I should be watching my calorie intake more closely. I am not getting enough leafy greens and vegies.


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    Thumbs up Cherries For Gout

    For Gout sufferers, I think this is very important:

    Please read this:

    http://arthritis.webmd.com/news/2010...gout-flare-ups

    20 Cherries Daily Linked to Fewer Gout Flare-Ups

    In the study of 633 gout patients recruited via the Internet, 20 cherries -- equivalent to two servings or 1 cup -- appeared to be the magic number as far as preventing future flare-ups, says researcher Yuqing Zhang,MD, of the Boston University School of Medicine.

    "Having one serving in the past 48 hours didn't help," he tells WebMD. And eating three or more servings of cherries offered no substantial protection beyond that associated with two servings, Zhang says.

    Cherry extract, found in specialty and health food stores, did appear to do the trick, he says.

    The findings were presented at the American College of Rheumatology's annual meeting.

    Cherry Extract Linked to 40% Lower Risk of Gout Flare-ups

    Gout occurs when uric acid builds up in the body, causing crystals to form in the joints and surrounding tissue. The resulting inflammatory reaction causes intense pain and swelling. Gout attacks tend to recur and frequently affect the big toe, knee, and ankle joints.

    Previous, small studies have suggested that cherries and cherry products may reduce uric acid levels and inflammation in the body, Zhang says.

    For the current study, the researchers turned to the Internet to recruit 633 participants who had experienced a gout attack within the past year. Medical records were used to confirm their gout diagnosis.

    Participants were asked to log on after having their next attack and answer an extensive questionnaire that asked about various potential factors that could affect risk, including cherry and cherry extract consumption in the 48 hours prior to the attack. Three months after being free of flare-ups, they were asked to answer the same questions.





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    Quote Originally Posted by roxies_mom View Post
    I'm at 1.0 over LDW - I don't think I'm getting in enough water and find myself still eating per P2 alot, like I'm afraid to add things...especially after thanksgiving! Yesterday I ate a JJ Unwich, which was bacon, tomato and mayo wrapped in iceberg lettuce - a couple of apple slices 2 eggs and a small piece of pizza - maintained. I have cheated with sugar and some carbs, but it's really not cheating, right? I can add some of that....so if I'm stablizing at 1 over LDW even adding those occasionally, I'm thinking I should be ok. I have not been excersizing at all and am not seeing any inches gone since P2....am I doing myself a disservice? Must I add excersize? I haven't done any in years, since I had my knee replaced - I still have one bad knee and although the weight loss has helped immensely, it hurts to walk alot.....
    I see a number of things that could be precipitating factors...

    - Not enough water (as you mentioned)
    - Bacon (unless it is a straight cut it's likely got all sorts of things in whatever they rub it with...including sugar)
    - Mayo (sugar?)
    - Tomatoes and lettuce (have sugar)
    - Eggs
    - Cheese (dairy causes loads of gains for most)
    - Dough (starch)
    - Lack of exercise

    Now before the "low starch/sugar not no starch/sugar" comments come out lol. I know I held my P3 to a silly high standard, but I'm just speaking from the perspective of locking in a gain, rather than giving advice on how P3 should be viewed (read: don't punch me in the toe!).

    Personally I would be more comfortable living on my LIW or below, since that gives me more room to play without needing to instantly resort to adjustment days. That's more for my sanity. If you're comfy living that close to the edge (if you're further back you're taking up too much space...and all that) then it should work.

    There are loads of ways to exercise without walking. Get in a pool, lift weights, do air punches at your TV, throw things at your testosterone unit...

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    Alchi:

    I also found this:


    From Kevin Trudeau's website:


    http://www.ktradionetwork.com/index.php?s=gout


    Gout
    Gout is a painful type of arthritis caused by build up of uric acid in joints, often favoring the toes. In a 2003 study designed to test the value of cherries for ameliorating gout pain 10 healthy female volunteers ate 45 Bing cherries for breakfast. Researchers at the USDA`s Agricultural Research Service then evaluated levels of urate, a precursor of uric acid, in blood plasma levels and in urine. Within 5 hours of eating cherries, urate decreased in blood plasma levels and increased in urine. Scientists also evaluated levels of C-reactive protein and nitric oxide, two other markers of inflammation, which decreased after subjects ate cherries.
    Fibromyalgia
    In a recent study at the Oregon Health and Science Center, women with fibromyalgia were evaluated for muscle pain and weakness after exercise. Of the 14 women, half drank cherry juice and half a placebo for ten days. Results showed a subset of the cherry group enjoyed a significant reduction in overall pain.
    The research suggests that cherries can be effective for different kinds of pain conditions. While both tart and sweet cherries have anthocyanins, tart cherries have more of them as well as a lower glycemic index making them a better choice. Tart cherries are also one of the only known food sources of melatonin, helpful for those whose pain interrupts their sleep cycle.
    Tart cherries are available dried, frozen, and in juice form.


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    Well woke up to .2 over my LDW. FINALLY!! I know I still have .2 and shouldn't celebrate, but I'm just so glad to be around the corner of my old neighborhood. (wipes much sweat from brow). I will try and do what I did yesterday. Yesterday I was just shy of 2000 calories. I should be getting in 2500 a day. I'll see how today goes and what the scale says tomorrow and from then on stick with max of 2500 calories and try to stabilize there. Wish me luck.
    btw... I have a friend who may be joining us in the New Year. If she can wait. Yeah for her!!!

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    I feel better learning that T-Rexes suffered from gout (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../387357a0.html).

    I'm going to go eat my neighbour now with my teeny weeeny little arms and oversized head!

    Quote Originally Posted by fatfighter View Post
    Alchi, I don't know very much about gout at all, so I'm wondering, since you just found out about it on Saturday, is 4-5 days enough time for the crystals to leave your system? Is there a 'quick fix' for a flare up like Pepto Bismol for diarrhea?

    I love how your estrogen unit becomes an estrogen creature when she's sick... sorry you're both under the weather for you anniversary - Happy Anniversary anyway!

    How's Todd these days? Has he become a trusted member of your family yet?

    ~Fatty
    Danke~

    Todd is amazing, though my cat keeps sleeping on him and wasting his batteries. I loves him Seems like such a silly thing to have gone through that much of an issue to find a scale that is not schizophrenic.

    I am on Indomethacin 50mg, which is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID). It gives a fair amount of relief in 4-6 hours and will help with the first attack, which generally lasts 3-5 days. Later attacks generally last longer and can affect other joints (ankle, knee, wrist, elbow). My plan is to run the NSAIDs for 7 days and see how I feel. I'm off work today and tomorrow, and have asked for light duties for a bit. Hopefully resting will help the swelling go down.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromFat View Post
    I am sorry you haven't gotten better. I know very little about your condition. But I found this and I think it may be helpful:
    Quote Originally Posted by cynm View Post
    sorry to hear u have gout alcohol..my hubby has it but he seldom has flare ups since he takes allopurinol .. only when he is really bad like eating tons of red meat and drinking alcohol for a few days at a time...
    Quote Originally Posted by roxies_mom View Post
    Aw, chin up alch....gout is so painful! What about a cortisone (sp?) shot in the joint? When I had gout, (and working and wearing heels) the doctor gave me a shot and it really helped - before the shot I thought I was going to die...wanted to cut my foot off! I sure hope you feel better soon!!
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromFat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromFat View Post
    Cherries it is! I asked my estrogen monster to go get me some, and she told me to go take a flying leap. BRB I'm off to go buy some cherries and soup for her.

    Thanks ladies...especially for the sexy lips on the cher.. (blush)

    I'll chat with the doctor and if he offers me cortisone, I'll knock his hand and have him inject my face so I can be a sooper model!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromFat View Post
    BUT... some form of exercise might help you target those places you want to lose inches/firm up. That's my hope anyway - no more saggy tush!
    If targeted exercise worked then people that chew gum would have skinny faces

    Just kidding!

    (hops away on one foot)

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