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    Quote Originally Posted by ShannonMiami View Post
    Can I ask your opinion as to why soy messes with hormones? Cas I thought whole soy is one of very few complete proteins available for us vegans. I only use pea protein shakes on P2. But afterward I plan on using whole soy for protein in the future. Is whole soy a problem for hormones?


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    It just depends on who uses it, I guess. My family has been using all kinds of soy products for over 30 years with no issues. I had 4 kids [one was killed as a teen], but two are now married with children of their own, still no issues. A guy and a young woman, 5 grandchildren, no issues with any of them. The only one with issues is my son's wife. She was brought up on meat, dairy and eggs, and she really has hormonal issues!

    So it is totally dependant on the person...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. View Post
    Well, if you are vegetarian, there is fish, eggs if you can tolerate them, and dairy if you can tolerate that (if not I'd suggest healing the gut first and see if that helps).

    If you are vegan, I'd suggest getting a good soy and dairy free protein powder, but I wouldn't recommend a vegan diet long term. I think it is great for a period of time, to heal issues and nourish our bodies with large amounts of good nutrients (unless the vegan diet consists of lots of carbs and soy...) but the lack of good animal fats will cause problems in the long run, or for the next generation(s). Of course, we can agree to disagree We eat vegan 1/3 of the year for religious reasons, so I know my way around food in that area, and I know what it does to my body. I chose to not do hcg vegan even though it was that time of year for us.

    Soy has only since recently been used as a protein replacer, and that mostly in the Western countries. It is eaten in huge proportions and thus is it grown in huge proportions, most of it being GMO. It was never used as a protein replacer in countries where they have eaten this for centuries. It was eaten fermented, and as a condiment. It is really, really messing up with our hormones. It is just scary. A baby fed soy milk is receiving more hormones from soy than a woman on a birth control pill. (http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-aler...alert-brochure)

    I am not trying to get into a controversy on this forum, BUT I am a vegan, so I am a little miffed as to why you would say don't be a vegan because it is unhealthful for you. I am 67, be 68 this year [told that I look like I'm in my late-40s, early 50s], had 4 children, have 5 grandchildren; use soy BIG time and according to my doctor [except for weight gained from eating junk food and candy] I'd put him out of business cause I am so healthy!

    Weston Price did not know everything! He'd probably disapprove of hcg.

    I've been on hcg homeopathic pellets now for 2 weeks and have lost 24 lbs [30 more to go] and I am eating vegetarian food entirely. My advice to anyone interested is try soy, if you don't have any problem then continue with it. If you do, then stop it. There are lots of interesting foods to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeggieMama View Post
    Sorry, if people eat fish, they aren't vegetarians.
    Thank you! I've heard more people claim to be vegetarians and in the next breath say they eat fish. That's right up there with people who say they don't eat meat...just chicken. What do they think a chicken is? As far as vegans go, I have plenty of friends who are perfectly healthy and devoted vegans. Their children are healthy, too. And not everyone does it for health reasons. Some people think it is immoral to eat animals and they live their convictions. None of them would eat meat for the sake of a weight loss diet. I have huge admiration for them, although I don't share their view.

    Soy? Beats me. Half the world's population seems to live on rice and soy and they are not fat like Americans. Yes they use it as a condiment, but it's in everything and they also use meat sparingly if at all.
    Gypsy


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