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    Daring, Darling & Determined Lovely Losers in December 2023

    You must be DEDICATED to DIET in DECEMBER! But it CAN BE DONE!

    Welcome Lovelies! P2ers, P3ers P4ers, Newbies, Old Pros, Lurkers---ALL WELCOME!

    Everyone loses weight after the New Year. Only the really DEVOTED are on board for December!

    This fiercely determined group of HCGers have been starting new threads every month for years to prevent people from having to sort through literally thousands of old posts, and making it easier for new people to join in.

    Please note as you read through the posts:

    We are all in different phases of HCG.
    We all use different methods of HCG.
    We discuss ALL aspects of our individual journeys to a healthier lifestyle.
    And MOST importantly, while we can be a little naughty and nutty (always with humor!! ) we are NICE to each other!!


    So, whether you are just starting, finishing or are somewhere in between . . .

    You ARE Welcome - PLEASE STEP RIGHT UP NOW and J0IN US!
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    Jan 2013: 173 to 126.8. Multiple rounds since then to stay there!

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    Thank you!

    Hi everyone!

    Can't wait for the new Dec. thread so jumping in here. I am back Annoyed with myself but happy with the fact that there is HCG.

    I obviously need the reset once a year or so. I let myself go/get annoyed with not being able to eat what I want and then it goes downhill from there.

    I loaded over the weekend (actually, I rogue loaded. I only loaded one day because I can never eat when I load. I ate really well over Thanksgiving and added HCG on Sunday. On Monday I almost forgot to eat and so far I am doing well (day 3 lol). I just miss eating certain things.

    I have yet to step on the scale but will put my big girl panties on soon. I figure I need to lose 20lbs. Again. I don't feel excited about using the scale during P2. I eat protocol and it is what it is. Then I focus on the scale in P3. This last time I added a P4 but I think carbs are just no good at all for me. I need a carb plan and a treat plan for life after HCG.

    My plan is a 6 week round and to either do a one-day interruption on Christmas Day or take the cheat. This is not ideal but will prevent me from gaining more weight before the new year.

    Anyway, hi everyone! Hope you rounds are going well and are enjoying your successes!
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    Interruption 12/21-1/1
    P3 1/23/24

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    I need a carb plan and a treat plan for life after HCG.
    Strong! You took the words right out of my mouth! I have done waaaaay too many rounds of hcg in the past 10 years because I do great on P2 and fine on P3 and okay for the first month or so of mostly P3 in P4.... and then Somethin' Happens and words are the last thing to worry about in my mouth!

    I need to figure how to handle food when I am sick, tired, upset or just plain grumpy. I know my triggers but I don't know what to do about them! I eat for comfort and for energy. If I could figure out a 'cheat schedule' that will leave me feeling less deprived when I get tired, etc. maybe I coud keep things more balanced.

    Just before this round, I was practically living on chips and cheese. They were the only things I wanted, with the possible exception of cookies. Not exactly heathy eating! I adore P3 style eating. I love the healthy foods I eat and love that I feel so good--no Tums, no GasX! I don't eat food I don't like, so I am not eating icky stuff in P3. I am eating things that taste wonderful and are filling. Until I stub my toe and fall flat on my face into a bag of chips. GRRRRR.

    So, let me know what you are thinking on how to survive after P3! I'd love advice!

    Down .4 today. Very slow loses that will not get me to my goal before the 10th. I need a good woosh!

    Onward!
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    Every loss is closer to where you want to be, so congrats! You are wise to use your P2 to think about your future strategy. I believe we can think clearer when on P2, because of lot of the brain fog clears with the elimination aspect of the diet, and toxins that mess up our thinking get flushed out because of that.

    The thing that keeps me on track in maintenance mode is to always stick to my guidelines. I've decided that no occasion is too important to break the rules. I have simple rules: No sugar, no refined flours, no seed oils, nothing deepfried. I have found a couple crunchies that fit my guidelines, specifically sprouted pretzel shells and roasted plantain chips, and a few sweet treats that are worth eating with good sugar subs. I don't avoid fats, but I mostly separate starch from fat. So for example, if I want pizza, I make it myself with sprouted whole grain flour, veggies and mushrooms sauteed in broth and keep mozzarella low fat and limited to 1-2 oz per meal. Lean protein usually added in a drink or dessert. If I wanted a greasy, cheesy meat pizza, I'll use some kind of low carb crust, or just eat toppings on a bed of greens. For high fat meals, I replace starches with veggies and berries and can be liberal with healthy fats. I buy the best quality I'm willing to pay for--mentioning that because I believe enjoyment is key to sticking to my plan.

    And the HCG protocol continues to guide me even though I haven't done a round in years. In partcular, Dr. Simeons warning when discussion of what we call P3. He say when fats and starches are combined, things can get quickly out of hand. I have found that to be so true. Whether or not there is an actual chemical reality in that doesn't really matter. It could just be that that combination makes for the most tempting foods that you want to just keep eating and eating....so you do, and then there you are. In need of a reset again.

    I gradually formed this collection of guidelines from practicing the Trim Healthy Mama plan as my maintenance strategy. I keep most of the principles, but have adapted it as I found what worked well for me and what was not worth the effort. I'm not saying this is a formula that will work for everyone, of course. We all have unique health challenges and lifestyles. Hopefully it will encourage people to continue to experiment until you find something that works, but that also allows you to live joyfully.
    At goal since 2015. \(ᵔᴥᵔ)/ Total HCG loss: 77# [5'5" 210-133] Maintenance strategies suggestions

    A full review of my experience with DietDoc and how the round progressed can be found here: my Diet Doc review and my Hcg coaching blog is here.

    Medical Disclaimer: My statements are not intended to treat, diagnose or cure any medical condition.

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    P2Pt2 D6 WI#5

    Happy Saturday, all!

    Leez, it's no wonder you are the Royal Grand Chief Moderator & Countess of All Things HCG! You are sticking to a WOE that is amazingly healthy! I am not sure I can do all of that all of the time, but I will certainly try to incorporate a lot more of it than I have before.

    But I HAVE to have some off protocol food sometimes. Not every day but maybe once or twice a month. I think the key for me is to reward my good behavior once in a while, instead of feeling deprived when I am down, tired or sick and then NOT CARING what I eat because I am feeling PUT UPON and grumpy and who cares about me, anyway? Eating for comfort is dangerous cuz it spirals into 3 months of Roman Feasting. I am trying to think of other things to comfort myself in those situations. A massage? Ugh. See, I'm sitting here thinking of things that bring me comfort, and I see Krispy Kremes floating in front of my eyes. I'm gonna need some kind of therapy to break those old habits!

    Got my
    WOOSH! Down TWO POUNDS this morning. It is the culmination of the last FIVE days! LOL. Back to .4 a day and one more Woosh of any size and I will make it close enough to goal. I have just over a week to go. Not like I am counting the days... !

    Onward, Ever Onward!
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    Yay for whooshes...so motivating!

    I agree that eating for comfort can derail you quickly. So keep looking for that comfort substitute. Its all a process that takes time to sort out. Our maintenance "rules" will all be different according to what we can tolerate. I don't think I'm particularly virtuous, just determined not to be self-destructive as much as is tolerable. ^_^

    Winter is my most dangerous time because I find I want to eat in hopes that I'll be warmer. So every year, I lose that battle somewhat and then I'll thankfully drop those couple of pounds in the spring. Except this past year, when the scale did not go back down. So this winter, I have turned the heat up more than normal and see if that helps, and if not, I will consider doing a short round. But I haven't changed clothes size yet, so I feel like I still have some time to shift things back again.

    I was thinking about things that bring me comfort, and probably one of the nicest is having a purring warm cat on my lap....which also has the benefit of keeping me from getting up and going to the kitchen for a snack. ^_^ I enjoy finding something wonderful on a thrifting trip too...but that takes more effort.
    At goal since 2015. \(ᵔᴥᵔ)/ Total HCG loss: 77# [5'5" 210-133] Maintenance strategies suggestions

    A full review of my experience with DietDoc and how the round progressed can be found here: my Diet Doc review and my Hcg coaching blog is here.

    Medical Disclaimer: My statements are not intended to treat, diagnose or cure any medical condition.

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    The thing that really gets me off my healthy eating track is adding more and more treats. Occasional fries, heck why not? Ice cream, so so good. I even had a couple of burgers on a GF bun which I hadn't had in years! I just need to stay away. But then I feel deprived or feel I deserve something. I can handle this at first but then I can't and I let go. It's hard to see my family eat treats too, smell them, etc.

    One thing I need to do is to stop myself before I let go. If I have a bad day and eat treats, I *just* need to get back on the wagon the next but I often don't. So I am going to strategize about that, like a post-bad-day meal plan. Hey, kind of like a steak day. Keep using the scale would be a good idea, ha! The thing is, I get tired of mindfulness and want to let go and I will find reasons why I deserve to let go. That really is the crux of it. Brain games. It becomes worth it in a weird way.

    What I know helps me is planning meals so I can easily grab and go and know that I have enough so there is no question of needing more. This is what is golden to me about P2: no need to think too much, planned portions, simple options. If I live that way 95% of the time and allow 5% of deviation I may just be OK. I can maybe plan the deviations, like a birthday, sugar-free treats, and an occasional French fry that way.

    And maybe I need to keep coming here in between too!
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    Interruption 12/21-1/1
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    Being prepared really is a key. Especially if you are not in control of the eating situation and there is no good choice available. I try to always keep a protein bar in my purse.
    At goal since 2015. \(ᵔᴥᵔ)/ Total HCG loss: 77# [5'5" 210-133] Maintenance strategies suggestions

    A full review of my experience with DietDoc and how the round progressed can be found here: my Diet Doc review and my Hcg coaching blog is here.

    Medical Disclaimer: My statements are not intended to treat, diagnose or cure any medical condition.

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    Forgot to take my dose until 2:30 pm! RATS. I hope that doesn't backfire on me.

    Great conversation going! More and more to think about.
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    My approach to "cheating" and snacks is driven by my ketogenic way of eating. First, I make sure to get a good portion of healthy fats for breakfast: coffee with heavy cream, whole eggs cooked with butter. Those can hold me until dinner if I'm busy; though I usually do eat a salad for lunch. If I'm in a situation where I will miss a meal, I put some cheese or a handful of roasted pecans in a ziploc bag in my purse. When I eat snack foods, I look for high-fat, high protein, or intense flavors: such as 85% chocolate or fresh berries. If I get hungry between meals, I'll eat a few pecans or other nuts, a pat of butter, or some cheese. I avoid all processed foods.

    I do keep track of my eating in an app called "FatSecret". If my weight starts creeping up, I'll review my last few weeks of eating and usually find I over ate carb-y or processed foods. Doing a few "zero carb" days usually gets the inflammation weight off. When I really get derailed - usually a party or family visit, then I'll do a round of hcg for cleansing. I never lose much weight but I do feel much better after cleaning out inflammation.

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    P2p2 d7 wi#6

    Hope you all are enjoying a wonderful Sunday morning!

    Gig, you, too, are inspirational. I do enjoy berries as a late night snack, and in P3 I sometimes top them with RediWhip or even some heavy whipping cream. If I have berries in the morning with plain yogurt, I throw in a handful of sliced almonds. But I am ahead of myself, as I am still in P2. Everything plain!

    I made more of my P2 soup---basically unsalted broth, beef this time, every left over P2 veggie I have in the fridge or freezer, including riced cauliflower as that makes it seem thicker. I added a can of Rotel tomatoes and green chiles this time. I browned 96% lean ground beef seperately and used my little Cusinart food processor to make it into 'loose meat" like in a sloppy joe, and measured it into each container I was using. I had enough soup for 8 containers (I think they hold 2 cups) and that gave me 1.3 ounces of ground beef each. A nice little protein boost for lunch.

    I spooned in all the veggies and then poured the remaining broth. I put 7 in the freezer and had one for dinner! I know none of that is P2 OP, but in 2.0, there are more veggies to choose from, I can mix them all I want, tomatoes don't bother me, and I only count the calories for the protein. This time around I had frozen bell peppers, about half of a bag, a fourth of a bag of plain green beans which were terrible by themselves, but simmered in soup they became great, two small slices of onion, which give the texture of noodles, riced cauliflower, most of a bag, a handful of sliced carrots, which I don't usually do, but I wanted to use them up,
    and a handful of fresh mushrooms cut up chunky. The mushrooms are a reach, but they 'feel' like potatoes when you eat it. I could have added chopped asperagus, or spiraled zucchini (again, noodle like) but I didn't have those on hand. I seasoned with basil and oregano last time, but with the green chiles this time, I skipped that.

    The main attraction this time of year is that it is HOT, without a lot of cooking at lunch time. I just take the top off and zap it in the microwave til it hurts my finger when I touch it! It is def a P3 soup, too, and one could, if one wanted, top it with a dollop of Daisy sour cream then.

    Where is Christy's happy dance graphic? Found it! Snoopy happy dance.jpg

    Down a pound today! I was worried about taking my dose too late. I was worried because I am still lowering my thryoid meds. I am currently doing the old dose for two days and then the new dose for one, and I had a lowered dose night before last. I am hoping to do every other day soon. Then two days new and one old, then a week or two of the new, and then I start over with another dose reduction.

    Thank you thank you thank you thank you! I was afraid I would never see this weight again! I feel like I am getting my energy back, too. Since I was a child, I can't carry much fat or I become a zombie. It's just how my metabolism works.

    I was a skinny child and a skinny teen, and did not have much problem with my weight but THOUGHT I did from being around others. In my early 20's I went to Weight Watchers to lose 10 pounds. My husband (my ex for over 40 years!) thought I was getting pudgy. I weighed 120 pounds and had to get a doctor's note to get to 110. I took me three months! Lasted about 24 hours. For years, I thought I was fat if I got close to 130. But that is a young body, and I have an old one now!

    My Norwegian heritage gave me a "Scandinavian Apron" of fat. Just like it sounds, it looks like an apron from under my breast bone to my hip. It is far beyond a muffin top, but that's part of it. When I was 35 I could hold a roll of fat under my belly button with my hands and there was still more that I could not hold. I had a tummy tuck, and was supposed to have lipo above the belly button, but the Dr."forgot" to do that part. He said he would do it in six months, but then he retired and moved out of town. Ugh. So I have been fighting the upper 'apron' for all of these years. If I get under 130 these days, it flattens a little. It does not change AT ALL over 130. I swear, it pooches out and shows in everything a wear like a sausage roll at 131. Not good for my ego, and that's when I find myself not wanting to bend over because it is an effort!

    Over the years, as long as I stay under 130, I function fine. Over 140, I'm a drudge. I get things done, but slowly and with little enthusiasm. That is not because of looks, but it just takes to much to drag my body around. I know, lots of Lovelies are exclaiming they would do anything to be 140. I am not that little, (5' 4)I just carry all of my Abby-Normal fat around my middle which is my core. I have no bum, my bosom was replaced by breast cancer, my legs are stick like and my arms are just arms. So carrying a life peserver around my middle realllllllly slows me down!

    Finally, as of yesterday, I am slightly under 130. I don't need to go far now, but it is always good to stop P2 a couple of pounds lower.

    I have 6 days. It is possible!

    Onward HO!
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    Jan 2013: 173 to 126.8. Multiple rounds since then to stay there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gz9gjg View Post
    My approach to "cheating" and snacks is driven by my ketogenic way of eating. First, I make sure to get a good portion of healthy fats for breakfast: coffee with heavy cream, whole eggs cooked with butter. Those can hold me until dinner if I'm busy; though I usually do eat a salad for lunch. If I'm in a situation where I will miss a meal, I put some cheese or a handful of roasted pecans in a ziploc bag in my purse. When I eat snack foods, I look for high-fat, high protein, or intense flavors: such as 85% chocolate or fresh berries. If I get hungry between meals, I'll eat a few pecans or other nuts, a pat of butter, or some cheese. I avoid all processed foods.

    I do keep track of my eating in an app called "FatSecret". If my weight starts creeping up, I'll review my last few weeks of eating and usually find I over ate carb-y or processed foods. Doing a few "zero carb" days usually gets the inflammation weight off. When I really get derailed - usually a party or family visit, then I'll do a round of hcg for cleansing. I never lose much weight but I do feel much better after cleaning out inflammation.
    This is how I maintained for a decade. I just got so tired of it but will need to get back to this mostly.
    Intermountain HHCG
    P2 11/27/23
    Interruption 12/21-1/1
    P3 1/23/24

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