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    Quote Originally Posted by gz9gjg View Post
    I had a chat with our community manager about the plows pushing snow onto the sidewalk, that I have to shovel off. She said nobody would yell at me for being slow to shovel; but she's also going to talk to the plow guy. We'll see.
    Really? Can't we be held liable if someone falls when they slip because we didn't clean our stretch of the sidewalk?
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    Jayk, I'm in a private over-55 community. I'm not sure how the law would work here. I have every intention of clearing my sidewalks, but it sure would help if I - and all the other residents - only had to clear the snowfall, not the snow pushed by the plow. Also: my lot is on a curved corner and I have the longest sidewalk in the community. Plus a longish driveway. So I ordered an electric snow shovel - doesn't that sound like an "electric fork" to go with an electric knife? But it's actually a battery powered mini snow blower, which ought to reduce the actual work I have to do.

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    Its been 5 years since I did an HCG round, but I have decided to start one now. Am on my second loading day. I have no idea what I weigh, and although I haven't changed sizes, my favorite clothes are no longer comfortably loose. I've gone up and down a few pounds over the past few years, but for some reason this time there has been no down over the fall season. I've been following my long term eating guidelines, but I know I don't drink enough water and for sure am not eating enough fresh greens cause its winter. And cold food. And all of that. But those are constant struggle areas for me anytime, which brings me to a guess that the hormone landscape is changing as I go deeper into menopause. So HCG to the rescue. So thankful to have this dependable backup plan.

    First day of loading, I got the familiar signs that the HCG was kicking in.... floaty feeling a couple hours after dosing, and pretty much immediate loss of appetite after breakfast the first day. So the rest of today will be spent forcing fatty foods and hoping I can eat enough of those to get in a good load before starting the diet part. My bottle of HCG has 28 doses of 125iu, so that's how long my round will be unless I have to lower dose and have enough left to extend a day or two more. Debating whether I want to weigh at all this round or just see where I end up. I've always done daily weighs and log updates so this would be a new experience. I dunno...will decide tomorrow or the next day whether to weigh or not. If you've done a round without weighing, hit me with your pros and cons please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo55 View Post
    Good Monday Everyone.

    Not a great morning for me as I've had a 0.8lb jump in weight. This is day 8 and I know things start to jump around about now, but it still flings me into self doubt: did I eat something wrong? Did I eat too much? I had 6 oz of salmon last night which fits into my calories and I have always tolerated in previous rounds, although it has sometimes been followed by a temporary gain. No matter how many times I look back over previous rounds (I keep pretty detailed records) and assure myself that no matter the ups and downs I always get where I want to be. More or less. Say +/- a pound. Or two. Hmm.

    We had some snow flurries here in the midwest but nothing that stuck. I wish it would actually snow, the grand babies would be thrilled!

    Jayk, do you drink bone broth in P2?

    Mrsstrong, I agree with you, planning is the most important element for me. I normally enter everything I eat during P2 and P3 into my fitness pal. I do it in the morning so it's easy to follow during the day. Once I get to P4 I stop and it's easier to put something in my mouth and pretend it has no calories. But I don't want to spend my life counting calories so I'm trying to be conscious of snacks since I basically know what my meals should look like. Despite everything, I am getting better at that.

    Enjoy your snow if you have it!

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    Hi Mo.

    Yes when I was working I would do Bone broth for my lunch. It has protein. I love Dr KellyAnns Bone broth but isn't cheap. I also do Bone Brewhouse I think it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by gz9gjg View Post
    Jayk, I'm in a private over-55 community. I'm not sure how the law would work here. I have every intention of clearing my sidewalks, but it sure would help if I - and all the other residents - only had to clear the snowfall, not the snow pushed by the plow. Also: my lot is on a curved corner and I have the longest sidewalk in the community. Plus a longish driveway. So I ordered an electric snow shovel - doesn't that sound like an "electric fork" to go with an electric knife? But it's actually a battery powered mini snow blower, which ought to reduce the actual work I have to do.
    Hey gig. I didn't mention laws at all. But in my opinion the city or towns own the sidewalks and they should clear them. I know in Canada, people are fighting those laws. As we pay taxes etc, and they should be clearing it as its the towns property not the house owner. I agree if the plow put it there, they should clean it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    Its been 5 years since I did an HCG round, but I have decided to start one now. Am on my second loading day. I have no idea what I weigh, and although I haven't changed sizes, my favorite clothes are no longer comfortably loose. I've gone up and down a few pounds over the past few years, but for some reason this time there has been no down over the fall season. I've been following my long term eating guidelines, but I know I don't drink enough water and for sure am not eating enough fresh greens cause its winter. And cold food. And all of that. But those are constant struggle areas for me anytime, which brings me to a guess that the hormone landscape is changing as I go deeper into menopause. So HCG to the rescue. So thankful to have this dependable backup plan.

    First day of loading, I got the familiar signs that the HCG was kicking in.... floaty feeling a couple hours after dosing, and pretty much immediate loss of appetite after breakfast the first day. So the rest of today will be spent forcing fatty foods and hoping I can eat enough of those to get in a good load before starting the diet part. My bottle of HCG has 28 doses of 125iu, so that's how long my round will be unless I have to lower dose and have enough left to extend a day or two more. Debating whether I want to weigh at all this round or just see where I end up. I've always done daily weighs and log updates so this would be a new experience. I dunno...will decide tomorrow or the next day whether to weigh or not. If you've done a round without weighing, hit me with your pros and cons please.
    Congrats Leez on this. I know it must have been a hard decision. You have done so well since your journey. But yes our bodies and age sometimes have a mind of their own, and a little reset is needed
    I know we have followed all the same people before, but now I am trying to stick with Dr KellyAnn and Dr Anna Cabeca for Menopause. I have all their books and basically follow both. But I needed to get back to where I need to be first to follow them.
    Doing good so far in my first week of P3. I definitely need to drink more water as well. I made myself this morning as I believe Lemon water is good first thing in the morning. I just need to make a regular thing of it. I will do the six weeks of P3 and P4, and see where I am , and possibly do one more round just to get where I really want to be. But will see where I am at , at that time.

    I know I don't weigh, I find it discouraging, but it's entirely up to you. I found these last two Doctors I follow don't recommend it daily either. If your fine with then good. I wish you all the best on this round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PearlyMae View Post
    Hi all!
    I will have to go back and see where I left off as I skipped a day or two and now I can't remember when I started P4. LOL. Pretty sure it was on the 3rd.

    Yep, I need to go shovel. Again. Winter in Colorado. We have had a few years with little snow, but that brings summers with many forest fires, so it is not a good trade off. I saw posts on Next Door of a new person asking how to shovel snow when he leaves at 3:30 a.m. for work. Lots of old f@rts told him HOW to use a shovel or a broom (a broom?) but nobody told the poor guy NOT to shovel. He has 24 hours to do his sidewalks from the time it STOPS snowing. Ridiculous to make him think he needs to be shoveling in the dark in the middle of the night. I may have to go set them straight...

    I have been up a bit and down a bit and am pretty close to where I was, so that's how P4 goes! So far. So good. I feel like my head is still in the game, so will just see how long it lasts. Two more weeks and I should be cleared to go back to pool exercises. I still want to get strong enough to do laps eventually.

    Onward!
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    Sounds like you got it figured out PearlyMae. I think you’re doing great. Sounds like we all got snow, you guys got more than we did, but down east Canada may get more as they usually do.
    It’s turning colder here though next few days, and that I don’t like. -30 for highs lol.
    Yes you might need to talk with that poor guy lol
    I need to do arm exercises once I am where I want to be. Need to get rid of the flab on my arms once and for all lol.

    And gz9gig I agree, they need to talk with the plow guy. That is not right making more work for people to shovel.

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    Hi guys - longtime lurker here, but I made an account today. I'm on P2 D2. Sorry if this is a double post, it looked like my first attempt didn't work, and it had a typo anyway.

    My normal, healthy weight is 145-155, about a US size 4-6. I'm 6' tall. Currently 186

    I did HCG for the first time in August 2014 to get rid of the breastfeeding weight after our daughter was done nursing. I weighed 180/185. Lost about 35 lbs in 40 days and kept it off until I was pregnant with our son (intentionally) in November 2015.

    Had the same breastfeeding weight issue with him, so I did another round of HCG after he was done nursing in 2017. I was only able to get back down to 160, but it was my fault for not being as strict with two toddlers at home and a deployed husband. Shortly after finishing P2, I blew out my knee in spectacular fashion and was stuck in the 160s until my weight started creeping up again (serious hormonal imbalance due to environmental stress and depression, not exercising, etc.) in January 2023.

    In October 2023, I weighed 173. Then, I fell from more than 1 meter up and hurt my back really bad, then had a doc put me on steroids and did steroid injections in my spine. (That's another issue) Immediate weight gain and all the hardened puffiness that comes with responding poorly to a steroid I didn't want to need to take. The steroid royally screwed up my hormones even more.

    With the support of my OBGYN here in Europe, I decided to do another round of HCG since I'd had such great success in the past: Losing at least 2lbs each time on P2D1. I pulled up my old HCG journals and confirmed I was at 165-175 units of HCG per day.

    I weighed 183.5 on P1D1 and am now at 186. I did everything exactly as I did before, followed the pounds and inches P1 loading phase (even though I hate it) to the tune of 3600+ calories both days, almost all fat and protein. Gained the 2 lbs you're supposed to.

    Rocked P2D1 with 435 calories total, and didn't even need the second fruit serving, I had to force myself to eat all of my calories. I felt stuffed, which let me know the injections are working.

    I track using MM+ app, so I know it's insanely accurate.

    Shrimp: 100g 2x
    Cauliflower + 50g red Onion for seasoning
    1 whole Cucumber
    Celery instead of second fruit
    Green Apple - 125g
    Plenty of soy sauce for salt, but not too much. Pepper and marjoram for seasoning on cauliflower.

    My winter-chapped lips wish that I could use an oil based ointment, but I'm even powering through that.

    Drank at least 8 cups of tea and a few glasses of water throughout the day. Had normal energy and got decent sleep.

    Today, I weighed an extra lb and it is not just water weight from the salt.
    Not exactly the strong start I was going for.

    What gives?

    I mean, I can skip cruciferous veggies this round, but never needed to before. I wouldn't think they would add a whole pound though.

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    Mermaid, good luck with your round!

    You can use mineral oil or petrolatum - neither has any food value and are not absorbed. I used gelled baby oil as a body moisturizer with no issues. I don't think any lip treatment is an issue either but Leez will correct me if I'm wrong.

    I suggest you put the soy sauce, and any soy or other plant-based seed oils, away. I use coconut aminos in place of soy sauce.

    The reason is, the seed oils have excess Omega 6 and upset our Omega 3 / Omega 6 balance. Long-term, avocado, olive, and coconut oils are OK, as are animal fats; they have far lower Omega 6 content.

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    Leez, good luck in your round! I know the feeling, clothes just a bit too tight, annoying changes in certain areas . . .

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    Thanks, Jayk - I trust my community manager to look out for us all; it's not just my sidewalks that gets covered. I'm sure the less able oldsters here hire snow clearing, and of course I could do that too but I figured I would see how big a deal it is here in my new home. The Utah weather people are thrilled we are getting this week's snow dumps. Our reservoirs got a nice fill up with last year's record snows, but the Great Salt Lake and Lake Powell are still at historically low levels.

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    Thanks for the same day reply gz9gjg! Is this the right thread in the forum or is there a better one to post in?

    I do have a soy aversion/allergy, but soy sauce was fine on my past two rounds in the last decade. I'll try switching to regular iodized salt for the remainder of this P2/3 and see if that's the culprit. 🙏

    Also of note, my doc started me on a small dose of metformin in December (500mg mornings) to help get my hormones in order (not for pre-diabetes concerns) and I still had symptoms of PCOS, so she thought HCG might actually help reset my ovulation cycle as well.

    She said that staying on Metformin is up to me while on HCG, there are no contraindications. But, diet wise, I haven't decided if that's best or not. Nothing about it on Reddit, no reliable articles I can find, either anecdotal or peer reviewed.

    Anyone with experience on metformin use while doing the HCG diet phase 2, please chime in? (Sorry for keyword tagging, but it might help someone in the future!)

    Lots of new variables in my system this time around. I'm hoping to ask better questions so I don't need to be in this position again because I skipped a step. My doc here is very supportive, but she has limited experience with using HCG for diet rather than ovulation. Unfortunately, my wonderful long-time doc from 5 years ago passed away, so I couldn't connect them.

    Being able to workout normally and compete in sports again is my most important goal, I can't do that with all the extra weight on my bionic knee.

    Thanks for the support!

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    Mermaid, I found hcg was a perfect way to transition to a ketogenic low-carb diet, which has helped me maintain 50+ lb weight loss and to reverse my Type 2 Diabetes. I have stuck to keto since 2017 and I like it; but I'm single so don't have to consider anybody else's food preferences. Note, PCOS is considered a pre-type 2 diabetes symptom. I haven't heard of problems with taking metformin; I changed my diet so never needed it.

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    Good luck on your round, Leez! I hear you on the weighing. I stepped on the scale twice so far. It's going down and my clothes fit better so all good here! I may end up doing a weekly weigh-in when done.

    And you too, Mermaid! I think as we get older, especially after kids, we change What used to work may not work anymore. Cauliflower is not on protocol but that probably would not cause the gain. It has to be inflammation when it is one day to the next and may just even out. The inflammation could still be from loading too.

    Pearly, up and down in a 4# window is normal, remember that! I know it is hard to not freak out though! But this is one reason I want to do a weekly weigh-in and not a daily one once I am in P4 as long as I am eating what I should be eating.

    gz, hope you got the plowing situation worked out!

    Jayk, I hope you're doing well!

    Afm, doing well. Just trucking along. I am such a boring P2-er LOL I eat the same, every day, pretty much. It doesn't bore me. I am eating more fat-free yogurt and eggs this time around I noticed. Not on protocol but easier to grab and stay P2 with my busy unpredictable schedule. It's not affecting losing weight but we shall see about stabilizing.

    Onward!
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