LOVELY LOSERS 2019 - ALL IN for August!!!!

**Mo55** · August 28th, 2019, 08:25 AM

Good Morning All. Thanks for the welcomes!

Gem, I like loading too because I can legitimately eat to capacity, and eat things I probably otherwise wouldn't eat all in one day. But, on the other hand, I don't like that full feeling. What I like even less, though, is feeling hungry or weak those first several VLC days, and eating to capacity seems to guard against that.

I'm up just over a pound after my first load day. That's also something I don't like: having to lose load weight. Oh well, I know it all works in the end so I'm trying not to agonize over the little stuff (>sigh<).

Beautiful weather here in the midwest, and as Gem said, it is lovely to walk in the sunny but not so hot temperatures.

Take care everyone!

**PrettyGirlRock1214** · August 28th, 2019, 01:44 PM

Hello everyone! I am about a week in
And I’m down 11 pounds! I still have 26 days to go on the VLCD. I am hoping that I can lose an additional 18 pounds during this time. But we will see. I guess I will be following everybody into the September thread? I’m a little late for the August one LOL

**Xexymess** · August 28th, 2019, 04:08 PM

Hello Lovelies!

Day 1 and 158 on the scale FML. I was maintaining between 149 and 151 from the previous round but wanted a buffer for the holidays; now I've gained almost everything back from R3 just loading! Hopefully it goes away quickly but I'm not thrilled in this position...

ONWARD

**Gemgirl** · August 28th, 2019, 10:12 PM

Hello fellow losers! So happy to see new faces! Makes the journey more interesting! I think I may (may, I say) know why I'm not losing like I should....I found myself not eating enough protein. Plus, I have been staying up to late and I don't seem to be getting the right amount of sleep lately. Has anyone besides me ever notice if you get up in the morn, weigh yourself, then go back to bed for another hour then weigh yourself again, you could lose more weight??? Well, I have!

Pearly- I love your determination!! I am going to be just as determined to lose another 5 myself!!
Mo- where are you from? Another beautiful day here! I know what you mean about the blob feeling after loading days!
Pretty- Welcome! We are all at various stages here. I'm still in the P2 zone.
Xex- funny how those pounds just seem to creep back on! I hate that!!

Well, I should go to bed now. Sweet dreams!

Week 1 -7.0
Week 2 -1.4
Week 3 -2.2
Week 4 -1.0

**hcgpro2** · August 29th, 2019, 05:58 AM

Welcome, new P2ers! Hope your rounds go well

X: I feel you on that. Seems like loading is such a waste and bummer when you gain with it but it'll make P2 easier!

Pearly: Down is down is down. Anything less after the first few days is good for me lol

AFM: I'm the same weight today as I have been for a few days now. I've had a major lack of sleep because of problems with BF. It's still bothering me so I haven't slept a full night yet. I've also been having issues in the bathroom. Before today, it seems like it had been a week before I had anything happen. I'm not bloated or anything but still sucks.

**PearlyMae** · August 29th, 2019, 07:25 AM

Thank you, Gem. I will just keep plodding along.

It may seem I lost track of what I just said I was going to do, but it sort of works in. I had a niece birthday at a restaurant last night, and instead of ordering a side salad and onion soup, no cheese, no croutons (which I have done before) or a grilled chicken salad hold almost everything, I had a nice juicy hamburger and sweet potato fries. Now, I took off the bun and cut up the burger, tomato, onion, and cheese and ate a little over half, but that was satisfying and only the cheese was not P2. For a P3 meal, it would have been perfect. Those pesky fries, tho... LOL. That was off any protocol.

But 1. Look at all the things I didn't do: I didn't have a Margarita or other alcohol, I didn't have a spoonful of the birthday song ice cream that was passed around, and I didn't go back to the house for birthday cake.

and 2. This IS part of my determination to do this. This was thoughtful on my part. I have to learn to LIVE with his diet, instead of sitting here waiting to lose weight. There have been days that, after I weigh in, I am just waiting all day so I can go to bed and get up and weigh again to see if I lost anything. Or it feels like that. So, there are times when I need to make a few accommodations and then get back on track. I had a salad for lunch. I've had a salad for lunch pretty much every day this summer. I didn't WANT a to spend money on another salad! LOL.

So I am up point 6, but I am not worried. This will stall me a bit, but I don't feel like I gained a half a pound of fat overnight. I j'ess filled up some the fat cells with water and they will let go again. Nothing I ate was really terrible.

Boy I slept well, and was not bloated or over full, so that tells me I ate appropriately. I did NOT have any munchies the rest of the evening.

So, onward ever onward. My nephew likes to go out to eat on his day with me, which is every Thursday, (tonight) but I am going to see if I can get him to start making it into Help Auntie Day instead of Spend Auntie's Money Day and get him to help me with some odds and ends chores. He is 15 now, and a special needs kiddo, but he can do that. If we don't go to Subway or McDonalds, he wants to order pizza and watch Princess Sofia on my TV. At home, his siblings tease him that its a baby show but he still likes it. Man, I have weathered Thomas the Tank Engine, Dora the Explorer, Bob the Builder and what's the one with the little Panda that teaches you three simple steps? But I kinda enjoy Sofia. 'd like help hanging a curtain more! Time for a change!

Oh, and I am wearing a pair of white pants --last chance, right? -- that I could NOT wear, even at this same weight after last round. So, some kind of woosh is happening. We are just not telling TESS yet.

P

**justgitterdone** · August 29th, 2019, 07:51 AM

Hey Lovelies, I am in week 3 of my round, been reading all your posts just haven’t posted in this thread yet. If any of you read the Leez’s Loaders thread you know my drama this round. This has been my most difficult round ever.

Pearly, your post about brunch at that restaurant made me sad. ‘‘Tis why I try my best to avoid restaurants all together while in P2. I’m in the same boat as you, I have 5 more pounds I want to lose. I had planned on doing a short round but I’ve had such poor results so far that I’m now resigned to doing a longer round and just going as long as it takes! I even bought another vial of hcg since I figure I’m now going to need it. You bring up at interesting point about pulling and freezing syringes. I’m assuming you’ve done this before and it works well? I’ve never done this, but I’m thinking I should try so as not to waste any I don’t use in the new vial when I mix it. Any tips for freezing? Do you need to leave room for expansion due to the freezing?

Mo55- I too use hcg as a maintenance tool when I get 10 or so pounds over. I did my first round in 2011.

Xexy- I’ll be interested to hear how your round goes using the syringes you froze. Just curious, How long have they been frozen? Do you inject IM or subq? Asking because typically 125 is the dose for IM injections which is what I’m doing.

Lex- I don’t skip during TOM either but I do usually do 1 skip day a week.

Sorry I don’t have the capacity to reply to everyone, but to the rest of you lovelies, thank you for your posts and I’m happy to be on this journey with you!!

**PearlyMae** · August 29th, 2019, 10:10 AM

I knew you were around, Gitter! I saw your like/thank.

Happy to hear from you. So sorry about your round! Are you sure your hcg is not out of date and not potent. That happened to me once and it was miserable! Almost as bad as the very first round I did back in 2009 when I lost 17 pounds in 50 days on FAKE DROPS. And gained it all back. sigh. onward.

Yes, I fill and freeze my syringes when I mix. Even frozen, they do not last forever, tho. But just refrigerated, I start to get suspicious after three weeks. I refrigerate my powder before mixing, but it also has a end date. I figure my frozen syringes are still good until at at least that end date.

Yes, after filling, I pull back the plunger a line or two to allow room for expansion from freezing. Then when thawed, carefully push it back up to the top and check the line for the dosage. If I've pulled them prior to lowering my dose, I just squeeze out a couple of drops before I inject. My routine is to put one in the fridge in a nice covered box that I have to keep light off of it. (In the freezer, I also store inside a box, although not a lot of light in there!) Then each day when I take out the one in the fridge, I replace it with one from the freezer. However, if I forget, I can drop in into a cup of room temp water and it is thawed and ready to use in 15 or 20 minutes.

Hope that helps!
P

**Xexymess** · August 29th, 2019, 11:20 AM

Hello Lovelies!

@Git I'm not sure if the frozen shots are effective but I'm going to keep on them for a week before I decide. I'm very hungry which is uncommon but I don't know if it's dosing or potency.

Down 3lbs to 155 today, still up 4lbs from pre-load but glad to see movement in the right direction. A big part of choosing this round was trying to get off sugar so even if the shots are stale a fast can't hurt.

**LEXIUS** · August 29th, 2019, 05:21 PM

Well, I am on day 20 and I am 15.4 lbs down. (Beginning weight 178.8 to 163.4)! I still have 20 some odd days to go. I am pretty happy about this, but aunt flow is still here and I am wondering if it will even be more of a loss once she leaves. (Fingers crossed).

Just wondering though, how far in to a 40 day round am I supposed to make a new batch? Can I be safe that my hcg is still effective as long as it registers on a pregnancy test? I do have another 5000 IU’s but I would really like to save it for my next round. Has anyone here gone a full 40 days without mixing up a new batch? In 2011 there was never a discussion that I have heard of needing to make a new batch in the middle of a 40 day round. Most people I knew never did. So I am really confused about that as well at this point.

Gem: I have noticed the same thing about weighing then going back to bed and sleeping then weighing again…. That’s why I make sure I weigh around 9 am because I know I will weigh less than I would at 7 am.

I am glad to see that I am not the only one with eating out struggles. I haven’t had that problem yet but I will on Saturday. I am going to a concert and I know there will be nothing at all I can eat there. I have a feeling I am going to be the odd ball out when my husband and friends are eating, drinking and enjoying their selves and I am going to be sipping on my $5 water….At least I know the music will be good!

**justgitterdone** · August 29th, 2019, 05:29 PM

Lex- pretty sure you won’t be able to get 40 doses out of one vial. I think the most I’ve ever gotten is around 30 and I only inject 125 since I do IM. Also, if the hcg starts to lose potency you’ll likely have to increase your dose. I gauge it based on hunger but they say hcg starts to lose potency 23-25 injection or something like that.

**Leez** · August 29th, 2019, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by LEXIUS

Well, I am on day 20 and I am 15.4 lbs down. (Beginning weight 178.8 to 163.4)! I still have 20 some odd days to go. I am pretty happy about this, but aunt flow is still here and I am wondering if it will even be more of a loss once she leaves. (Fingers crossed).

Just wondering though, how far in to a 40 day round am I supposed to make a new batch? Can I be safe that my hcg is still effective as long as it registers on a pregnancy test?

Hi Lexius, It was common a while back (several years when many used overseas sources) to remix halfway through your round (so sometime after 3 weeks) and some even felt like their HCG was starting to lose potency before then. The recommendation was not to go longer than 30 days before mixing a fresh batch.

However, with our current recommended suppliers, the HCG seems to stay potent longer. Suppliers like DietDoc have the HCG compounded fresh in US pharmacies and require the potency to be more than 100% (I think for DD it is actually something like 110%) That means that even if the HCG does start to degrade after a time, it is going to be a while before it degrades below 100%. They say the HCG is good for about 60 days after mixing. I can't verify that personally, but if you test with a pregnancy strip and it shows positive, you can continue to use it. I have used the DietDoc HCG for 30 day rounds and I didn't detect any weakening at all.

Hope you get a big woosh when your cycle is done!

(Assuming none gets wasted, you can get 33 doses of 150iu from a 5000iu vial of HCG, and 40 doses of 125iu.)

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